So, they felt like Trump was totally sane BEFORE the pandemic?

[allison22]

One former White House aide told NY Mag's Olivia Nuzzi that the pandemic "really fucked up his head."

“He was already on that path, he was so desensitized and emboldened, and then during COVID, his interactions with real people were so cut off," the former aide said.

The aide went on to say that while the pandemic was raging, Trump wasn't experiencing any of its horrors. Also compounding the issue was the police killing of George Floyd, which created an "ugly cocktail" of societal upheaval -- all things that "activated his worst features."

"He lost touch with what was real, whatever limited ability he had before to connect was just gone," the aide said, adding that "there were always weird people around him, but the more the normal people disappeared, and all he’s surrounded by are the cuckoo birds ... His brain was vulnerable too because I think he was probably whatever his version of depressed is.”

Trump first mentioned the new coronavirus in public on January 22, 2020, during a visit to the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.

"We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China. It's going to be just fine," he said at the time.

Trump consistently downplayed the threat posed by the pandemic, saying on numerous occasions that the virus would disappear as the weather warmed.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli..._TQHo1teDKJpQmcHKFeiXPOVCOuavJh0CO2tEXQbEkh1E

 

[HisArpy]

Trump was being lied to by his own staff from the very beginning. They were either secretly working against him or they had their own agenda for self advancement at his expense.

This was compounded by the adversarial and biased media promoting a false narrative. Which is still ongoing even though he's been out of office for 2 years.

 

[coati]

Trump was being lied to by his own staff from the very beginning. They were either secretly working against him or they had their own agenda for self advancement at his expense.

This was compounded by the adversarial and biased media promoting a false narrative. Which is still ongoing even though he's been out of office for 2 years.

^^^Like Trump, another MAGAt who has lost touch with what's real. Soon, nursing homes all over America will be filled with MAGAts like this.

 

[HisArpy]

^^^Like Trump, another MAGAt who has lost touch with what's real. Soon, nursing homes all over America will be filled with MAGAts like this.

Sure Sparky. Remember to turn off the light when you leave a room. M-kay?

 

[Bray123]

It turns out that the aides were telling Trump the truth but he was just lying about stuff anyway.

Because that was the way he spent his whole life and it's difficult to get out of those nasty habits.

 

[Dribble]

He wasn't twice impeached because of Covid. He was twice impeached because he was a failure at being President...just as he was a failure at everything he does except being a grifter.

Want to quickly tell the kind of person a person is? Take them golfing. If he cheats...he is a cheater. If you score a 75...but you took 100 swings...you scored a 100...not a 75.

 

[dkovic77]

Trump was being lied to by his own staff from the very beginning. They were either secretly working against him or they had their own agenda for self advancement at his expense.

This was compounded by the adversarial and biased media promoting a false narrative. Which is still ongoing even though he's been out of office for 2 years.

His own staff lied to him as well on Jan 6 when he refused to move in support to protect the capitol? Nope that was all DJT. His staff tried to tell him, the propaganda network had the coverage, his family tried to tell him.

So you really want to go with they lied to him?

This is the same guy that wanted us to inject bleach. If only his ego didn’t get in the way and he just let Mike handle the briefings… but Mike was getting great ratings and DJT can’t let that opportunity go by. Only difference, unlike his un-reality show, life isn’t scripted and edited after the fact.

And now you are looking for DeSantis to be your champion…that dude will fold like a house of cards as he gets full national attention. DJT will see to that as the Republican Party will go splitsville.

 

[Lady2020]

His own staff lied to him as well on Jan 6 when he refused to move in support to protect the capitol? Nope that was all DJT. His staff tried to tell him, the propaganda network had the coverage, his family tried to tell him.

So you really want to go with they lied to him?

This is the same guy that wanted us to inject bleach. If only his ego didn’t get in the way and he just let Mike handle the briefings… but Mike was getting great ratings and DJT can’t let that opportunity go by. Only difference, unlike his un-reality show, life isn’t scripted and edited after the fact.

And now you are looking for DeSantis to be your champion…that dude will fold like a house of cards as he gets full national attention. DJT will see to that as the Republican Party will go splitsville.

You actually think DeSantis will fold? I get the sense DeSantis is Trump deja vu, except with more of an intelligent primitive brain that is more focused. The GOP is proving to be a poor example of family values and life.

 

[dkovic77]

You actually think DeSantis will fold? I get the sense DeSantis is Trump deja vu, except with more of an intelligent primitive brain that is more focused. The GOP is proving to be a poor example of family values and life.

Have you seen him in press conferences when anyone asks him a question he doesn’t like? He won’t make it.

He survives in Florida since he is around people who don’t challenge him as much. DJT will be the hurdle to start and then he’s damaged goods after that.

 

[Lady2020]

Have you seen him in press conferences when anyone asks him a question he doesn’t like? He won’t make it.

He survives in Florida since he is around people who don’t challenge him as much. DJT will be the hurdle to start and then he’s damaged goods after that.

I'd like to believe that. The conservatives better decide who the hell who they are and what they stand for. Esp the ones on Lit.

 

[dkovic77]

I'd like to believe that. The conservatives better decide who the hell who they are and what they stand for. Esp the ones on Lit.

Yeah seems all the values they stood for have been dumped for the finger pointing, conspiracy throwing, and back stabbing.

There always has been a faction that would rumble a little, but now they think they are the party.

Democrats have some soul searching to do as well, although they aren’t coming from the keep making everything up and hope people believe them perspective.

With the economy not doing well, there should have been a tidal wave of red. Good thing for dems they had DJT to bail them out.

 

[Lady2020]

Yeah seems all the values they stood for have been dumped for the finger pointing, conspiracy throwing, and back stabbing.

There always has been a faction that would rumble a little, but now they think they are the party.

Democrats have some soul searching to do as well, although they aren’t coming from the keep making everything up and hope people believe them perspective.

With the economy not doing well, there should have been a tidal wave of red. Good thing for dems they had DJT to bail them out.

I agree with a lot of what you're saying. I think the last paragraph is kind of odd. Maybe you could clarify?

 

[dkovic77]

I agree with a lot of what you're saying. I think the last paragraph is kind of odd. Maybe you could clarify?

DJT lost the republicans three elections in a row. No way should the dems have held onto the senate (and gained a seat) and only a handful of votes down in the house. DJTs hand picked candidates who were able to primary republicans who could win in a general, and then got their ass handed to them. Georgia is microcosm of it. A landslide for governor and sec of state yet people couldn’t get behind Walker.

 

[Lady2020]

DJT lost the republicans three elections in a row. No way should the dems have held onto the senate (and gained a seat) and only a handful of votes down in the house. DJTs hand picked candidates who were able to primary republicans who could win in a general, and then got their ass handed to them. Georgia is microcosm of it. A landslide for governor and sec of state yet people couldn’t get behind Walker.

Yes, and the entire world saw it. The thing is the Republican party showed us who they were and what they would do, and it isn't over.

 

[littleKgirl]

Trump was being lied to by his own staff from the very beginning. They were either secretly working against him or they had their own agenda for self advancement at his expense.

This was compounded by the adversarial and biased media promoting a false narrative. Which is still ongoing even though he's been out of office for 2 years.

ha ha !

 

[Veroe]

Trump was being lied to by his own staff from the very beginning. They were either secretly working against him or they had their own agenda for self advancement at his expense.

This was compounded by the adversarial and biased media promoting a false narrative. Which is still ongoing even though he's been out of office for 2 years.

Okay, but isn't that an indictment of Trump as a manager? I mean, If he really was the greatest president ever...shouldn't he have seen through all that and hired people that would work for his agenda rather than against it or for their own?

Is someone that can be so easily duped or sabotaged by his own employees someone you really want back in the oval office?

 

[Dribble]

Have you seen him in press conferences when anyone asks him a question he doesn’t like? He won’t make it.

He survives in Florida since he is around people who don’t challenge him as much. DJT will be the hurdle to start and then he’s damaged goods after that.

You are mistaken. Like all Democrats that underestimate the evil we face, you are lost. Let me enlighten you. 49 % will vote for him no matter what. This is a fact. That means it comes down to 2 states. Two. And those 2 are very Republican leaning right now. So...tell me bright one...how will you convince the 10,000 votes in those states to show up? Fear? Threats? The Democratic Party is just as lost as the Republican Party...and people like you permit it.

Stand for something. Have a policy people can get behind. Have a purpose. Have direction. Be proactive...not reactive. Only then, can we win

 

[ll74]

Trump was being lied to by his own staff from the very beginning. They were either secretly working against him or they had their own agenda for self advancement at his expense.

This was compounded by the adversarial and biased media promoting a false narrative. Which is still ongoing even though he's been out of office for 2 years.

The genius you dipshits voted into the white house was fooled by his own staff?


Lol

 

[dkovic77]

You are mistaken. Like all Democrats that underestimate the evil we face, you are lost. Let me enlighten you. 49 % will vote for him no matter what. This is a fact. That means it comes down to 2 states. Two. And those 2 are very Republican leaning right now. So...tell me bright one...how will you convince the 10,000 votes in those states to show up? Fear? Threats? The Democratic Party is just as lost as the Republican Party...and people like you permit it.

Stand for something. Have a policy people can get behind. Have a purpose. Have direction. Be proactive...not reactive. Only then, can we win

Evil? You mean the only twice impeached President who summoned the mob with an attempted coup of our government in the hopes of retaining power?

And 49% will vote for him no matter what?

Did 49% vote for all his endorsed candidates in 2022? I saw either a ton stay home or action vote for the Democrat.

Or are you talking about the other Florida candidate?

Regardless, when the two of them have destroyed each other and DJT loses but enters as a third party candidate (because he can’t stand to be told what to do)… I’m not so sure about your 49% theory. Or do you think DeSantis loses and he won’t press a third party run?

(More likely, he will bow out if he sees the writing on the wall, but then it’s total damaged goods at that point)

And if DJT gets less than 49%, there is the claim the fix is in. Tucker will stare blankly not understanding, but the country will understand just like Mitch does- candidate quality is key.

So I’m not sure about your 49% no matter what theory.

Or Evil… do you mean Putin and his ill conserved war in Ukraine? Democrats don’t understand that one?

Just wondering what this evil is that democrats don’t understand. From my position as an independent, the overwhelming majority of evil rests squarely on the MAGA fringe group that keeps trying to convince all Republicans their fight is the Republican fight. But, when this fight includes multiple convictions for sedition, usually that is a clear indicator of where the evil is.

I hope during this holiday season you are able to fully understand how 49% will not continue to support a clear evil. This 49% includes a ton of independents, like myself, who just like in Georgia results - landslide victories for a Republican Governor who stood up to DJT and a loss to a hand-picked DJT senate candidate that was of well short on quality.

The independents, thankfully, don’t need to be scared or threatened. They just look at the facts, and not the propaganda.

I’m not sure why you paint me as a lost Democrat, I have never been affiliated with a party. I have voted both directions, and I even voted for candidates from both sides in this recent election. Turns out there were some solid non-DJT poor quality republicans out there and there were good solid doesn’t take support for granted Democratic candidates as well. I engage my elected leaders in correspondence on the issues and that drives my voting response.

But thank you, for this chance to further explain my thinking on this issue.

 

[jaF0]

GQP = American Taliban.

 

[Veroe]

Evil? You mean the only twice impeached President who summoned the mob with an attempted coup of our government in the hopes of retaining power?

And 49% will vote for him no matter what?

Did 49% vote for all his endorsed candidates in 2022? I saw either a ton stay home or action vote for the Democrat.

Or are you talking about the other Florida candidate?

Regardless, when the two of them have destroyed each other and DJT loses but enters as a third party candidate (because he can’t stand to be told what to do)… I’m not so sure about your 49% theory. Or do you think DeSantis loses and he won’t press a third party run?

(More likely, he will bow out if he sees the writing on the wall, but then it’s total damaged goods at that point)

And if DJT gets less than 49%, there is the claim the fix is in. Tucker will stare blankly not understanding, but the country will understand just like Mitch does- candidate quality is key.

So I’m not sure about your 49% no matter what theory.

Or Evil… do you mean Putin and his ill conserved war in Ukraine? Democrats don’t understand that one?

Just wondering what this evil is that democrats don’t understand. From my position as an independent, the overwhelming majority of evil rests squarely on the MAGA fringe group that keeps trying to convince all Republicans their fight is the Republican fight. But, when this fight includes multiple convictions for sedition, usually that is a clear indicator of where the evil is.

I hope during this holiday season you are able to fully understand how 49% will not continue to support a clear evil. This 49% includes a ton of independents, like myself, who just like in Georgia results - landslide victories for a Republican Governor who stood up to DJT and a loss to a hand-picked DJT senate candidate that was of well short on quality.

The independents, thankfully, don’t need to be scared or threatened. They just look at the facts, and not the propaganda.

I’m not sure why you paint me as a lost Democrat, I have never been affiliated with a party. I have voted both directions, and I even voted for candidates from both sides in this recent election. Turns out there were some solid non-DJT poor quality republicans out there and there were good solid doesn’t take support for granted Democratic candidates as well. I engage my elected leaders in correspondence on the issues and that drives my voting response.

But thank you, for this chance to further explain my thinking on this issue.

Actually, I agree with Dkovic on this one. The polling in the last couple weeks since the midterms have shown that Trump's base of support among MAGA hat-wearers aren't as hardcore or unified as once we thought of them. However I think the possibility remains that this is only a fluctuation in their support of 45. As time goes on and his presidential campaign continues past these first few stumbling blocks at its start and really gets up to gear, I think the polling numbers of support for him will bounce back especially after a debate with Desantis. That's Trump's strength and one of Desantis's greatest weaknesses as a politician, and Republicans love the strong guy big dick energy Trump can show there.

 

[phrodeau]

Trump got 46.1% of the vote in 2016, and 46.7% of the vote in 2020. Not sure where he can get that 49% from. Voter fraud, maybe?

 

[Bray123]

In his Christmas message to his base (base as in very low level) Trump refers to himself as 'clairvoyant' and Biden as 'mentally deranged'.

So he foresaw his losing the election all along. He's such a unifying figure of an elder statesman.

 

[dkovic77]

Trump got 46.1% of the vote in 2016, and 46.7% of the vote in 2020. Not sure where he can get that 49% from. Voter fraud, maybe?

It’s a SOLID 49% percent, that is just fake news you are giving from those two elections.

Those values are just arbitrary, the vote is whatever DJT says it is… right?

 

[Veroe]

It’s a SOLID 49% percent, that is just fake news you are giving from those two elections.

Those values are just arbitrary, the vote is whatever DJT says it is… right?

It seems kinda silly to me that we're splitting hairs on 3% or so, when no matter how you split them its still less than half, and not really a good showing for any politician.