So, midEast Trip, Qatar boycott. Qatar Boycott?

[EternalFantasies]

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[4est_4est_Gump]

The people who are sanctioning Qatar are their neighbors.


We are not. We have to worry about how Turkey will react, so once again, in the Middle East, we are walking a tightrope...

 

[HisArpy]

The people who are sanctioning Qatar are their neighbors.


We are not. We have to worry about how Turkey will react, so once again, in the Middle East, we are walking a tightrope...

To be fair we are in league with the other Mid East nations who aren't all that happy with Quatar.

On the other hand, this deal could give us some much needed leverage with them as well as keeping the cooperation levels stable. It would also be good to note that this deal was initially done by Obama back in November and that Trump went forward with it.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

It is always a delicate balance in that region, yes, they export violence, but they also keep the peace and the oil flowing...


There are no win-win scenarios.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

It would also be good to note that this deal was initially done by Obama back in November and that Trump went forward with it.

That doesn't make sense.

Dump's been systematically trying to destroy, reverse, erase or go opposite of all of Obama's accomplishments since taking office. If the Obama administration was for or against anything, you can bet your bottom dollar that Lord Cheetos is reverse-stancing it.

If he's for it, then there's gotsta be something in it for him. GOTSTA be, I sez.

 

[HisArpy]

That doesn't make sense.

Dump's been systematically trying to destroy, reverse, erase or go opposite of all of Obama's accomplishments since taking office. If the Obama administration was for or against anything, you can bet your bottom dollar that Lord Cheetos is reverse-stancing it.

If he's for it, then there's gotsta be something in it for him. GOTSTA be, I sez.

It makes sense if you look at the deal and not the person making it. Trump has been telling everyone that he wants to put America First. This deal seems to go along with that idea.

I'm also not going to deny (mostly because I don't know) that he may be making a million or 2 from the deal personally. He is, after all EXTREMELY wealthy and probably has investments in all kinds of different industries. I don't think that motivated his going forward in this case, but like I said, I don't know where his investments are.

 

[EternalFantasies]

The people who are sanctioning Qatar are their neighbors.


We are not. We have to worry about how Turkey will react, so once again, in the Middle East, we are walking a tightrope...

Donald Trump tweets support for blockade imposed on Qatar
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...shoppers-stockpile-food-due-to-saudi-blockade

The blockade took place right after trump's visit.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Donald Trump tweets support for blockade imposed on Qatar
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...shoppers-stockpile-food-due-to-saudi-blockade

The blockade took place right after trump's visit.

But then sells the arms which could be used to break blockade. Sell arms to both sides! Double the profits and no favouring of ideologies.

 

[phrodeau]

So how many F-15's will ISIS get?

 

[Hard_Rom]

So how many F-15's will ISIS get?

Some Arabian peninsula prince will profit from the sales. Daesh will get a cut of that.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Donald Trump tweets support for blockade imposed on Qatar
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...shoppers-stockpile-food-due-to-saudi-blockade

The blockade took place right after trump's visit.

Post hoc ergo proptor hoc?


There's a Y-u-u-u-u-uge difference between a Trump tweet and government policy.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Post hoc ergo proptor hoc?


There's a Y-u-u-u-u-uge difference between a Trump tweet and government policy.

Don't tell him or Bannon that!

 

[EternalFantasies]

Post hoc ergo proptor hoc?


There's a Y-u-u-u-u-uge difference between a Trump tweet and government policy.

I'm not saying it's because of it. I'm saying it's what cleared it. Yet, we sell arms right after to blockaded party.

There's something inherent in the GCC countries that must be understood. They take their cues from the US & UK.

Saudi Arabia in particular does no such action without US blessing. Their foreign policy is almost entirely in coordination with US agents.

Please note I am not against the sale, I am merely pointing out an interesting event.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

That doesn't make sense.

Dump's been systematically trying to destroy, reverse, erase or go opposite of all of Obama's accomplishments since taking office. If the Obama administration was for or against anything, you can bet your bottom dollar that Lord Cheetos is reverse-stancing it.

If he's for it, then there's gotsta be something in it for him. GOTSTA be, I sez.

I've seen quite a few Obama policies kept by Trump, but they received scant attention. Here is an example, what are your thoughts on this?

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/02/13/trump-keeps-obamas-top-gay-rights-envoy-at-state-department/

Our foreign policy changes very little based upon who is in the office.

 

[EternalFantasies]

Our foreign policy changes very little based upon who is in the office.

Indeed, always.

 

[HisArpy]

I've seen quite a few Obama policies kept by Trump, but they received scant attention. Here is an example, what are your thoughts on this?

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/02/13/trump-keeps-obamas-top-gay-rights-envoy-at-state-department/

Our foreign policy changes very little based upon who is in the office.

What happens is that the things Trump does which go along with their thoughts and ideology get suppressed and ignored. The things he does which change things up get over-hyped to enrage the average low information protester.

This is why the good things don't show up very long on the news feeds of the MSM and the supposedly bad things linger for weeks or months. Like the Russian collusion thing. NEWSFLASH: no one cares anymore. It won't change the election results NOR IS IT an impeachable offense unless Trump did it. Which he didn't and even the FBI/NSA/etc say he didn't. Yet it's right there in the headlines every day.

So the Quatar deal is already yesterdays news. Meanwhile Mueller's investigation continues to spin up dust that the Left calls smoke.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I'm not saying it's because of it. I'm saying it's what cleared it. Yet, we sell arms right after to blockaded party.

There's something inherent in the GCC countries that must be understood. They take their cues from the US & UK.

Saudi Arabia in particular does no such action without US blessing. Their foreign policy is almost entirely in coordination with US agents.

Please note I am not against the sale, I am merely pointing out an interesting event.

We're delivering sold weapons to an (marginal) ally who is being blockaded by other marginal allies none of whom may actually be "blockading."

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I've seen quite a few Obama policies kept by Trump, but they received scant attention. Here is an example, what are your thoughts on this?

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/02/13/trump-keeps-obamas-top-gay-rights-envoy-at-state-department/

Our foreign policy changes very little based upon who is in the office.

Plus Trump is a Democrat who is being advised closely by his family, who are Democrats!

 

[EternalFantasies]

We're delivering sold weapons to an (marginal) ally who is being blockaded by other marginal allies none of whom may actually be "blockading."

? I'm not certain i comprehend.

We're not delivering, it's as i mentioned, we're selling. We just "signed" now.

They are too actually blockading and it is a major matter in middle eastern and European media. There's currently violent arson and dissidence activity going on in Bahrain that the government says is retaliation by Qatar.

You've just been too busy ready 'american thinker',
and US media focused on Trump did this, and did not do that. Like everyone else.

I had forgotten to link the op article: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-gulf-qatar-boeing-idUSKBN19531Y

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

I've seen quite a few Obama policies kept by Trump, but they received scant attention. Here is an example, what are your thoughts on this?

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/02/13/trump-keeps-obamas-top-gay-rights-envoy-at-state-department/

Our foreign policy changes very little based upon who is in the office.

Zumi why have you not commented on this?

 

[EternalFantasies]

Zumi why have you not commented on this?

Lefties do that all the time. Avoid to respond, then go posture opposite you in a new thread.

Or attempt to change the subject, or send the discussion into vicious circles.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

"In November, the United States approved possible sale of up to 72 F-15QA aircraft to Qatar for $21.1 billion. Boeing Co is the prime contractor on the fighter jet sale to the Middle East nation."


Why do you link to articles that you have clearly not read? As I said, this was green lighted by the previous Congress and Administration.


Now, thanks to the wiseass crack about American Thinker, I'm just going to fucking ignore you for a while.

 

[EternalFantasies]

"In November, the United States approved possible sale of up to 72 F-15QA aircraft to Qatar for $21.1 billion. Boeing Co is the prime contractor on the fighter jet sale to the Middle East nation."


Why do you link to articles that you have clearly not read? As I said, this was green lighted by the previous Congress and Administration.

Ooops. My bad. You are correct on the "delivering" what was previously agreed to.

To be fair, Trump could've canceled the deal, but his priority is dollars and jobs, right.

However about that blockade, it is indeed taking place and the situation is quite tense with several violent outbursts in Bahrain thus far.

Now, thanks to the wiseass crack about American Thinker, I'm just going to fucking ignore you for a while.

It was good advice though. Most if not all of you Americans are not reading/watching past US media and that's no good for everybody.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I've seen quite a few Obama policies kept by Trump, but they received scant attention. Here is an example, what are your thoughts on this?

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/02/13/trump-keeps-obamas-top-gay-rights-envoy-at-state-department/

Our foreign policy changes very little based upon who is in the office.

Domestic policy hasn't changed much (although Trump has issued a flurry of toothless "executive orders"). The Dept of Justice just announced it will unilaterally close all outstanding transgender discrimination investigations, which I'm sure makes you (and the homophobic Trump core demographic) happy.

Foreign policy is a mess. Trump started early, pissing off China by seeming to favor Taiwan (since meekly walked back). Then came the bull-in-the-china-shop disaster of Trump's middle east trip, which upset the fragile balance there: Saudia Arabia and Israel have now got the upper hand there. The end result will be more death and destruction in Syria. And Trump's unneccessary "Fuck you NATO" sowed dissension throughout Europe, so Russia's investment in Trump's election is already showing dividends.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

Domestic policy hasn't changed much (although Trump has issued a flurry of toothless "executive orders"). The Dept of Justice just announced it will unilaterally close all outstanding transgender discrimination investigations, which I'm sure makes you (and the homophobic Trump core demographic) happy.

Foreign policy is a mess. Trump started early, pissing off China by seeming to favor Taiwan (since meekly walked back). Then came the bull-in-the-china-shop disaster of Trump's middle east trip, which upset the fragile balance there: Saudia Arabia and Israel have now got the upper hand there. The end result will be more death and destruction in Syria. And Trump's unneccessary "Fuck you NATO" sowed dissension throughout Europe, so Russia's investment in Trump's election is already showing dividends.

How is any of this relevant to my point that it is not true that Trump has been dismantling everything enacted by Obama?

(ETA regarding trannies. They are statistically irrelevant in our society. I have never been mad, glad or sad regarding policies that have anything to do with them due to their obvious irrelevance. The only thing of interest to me is the fact that the media spends so much time promoting a demographic that is likely 0.005% of the US population. That's peculiar.)