So it looks like COngress is gonna give Baby his bottle.

[Spinaroonie]

Why?

It's an election year! That just doesn't make any sense.

So... I've made up a scheme.

1. Suport Unpopular war
2. ???
3. Profit!

 

[MissVictoria]

*chuckles quietly*

 

[Problem Child]

Why?

It's an election year! I've made up a scheme.

1. Suport Unpopular war
2. ???
3. Profit!

Please explain the winning strategy behind supporting an "unpopular war" right before an election.

 

[Purrde Flower]

Everyone knew when Bush got into office we would be going to war.

 

[Spinaroonie]

Re: Re: So it looks like COngress is gonna give Baby his bottle.

Please explain the winning strategy behind supporting an "unpopular war" right before an election.

That's what I'm asking.

 

[A Desert Rose]

Re: Re: So it looks like COngress is gonna give Baby his bottle.

Please explain the winning strategy behind supporting an "unpopular war" right before an election.

LMAO when I die, I want to come back as you......

 

[Spinaroonie]

Everyone knew when Bush got into office we would be going to war.

Why is there congressional support?

 

[Problem Child]

Re: Re: Re: So it looks like COngress is gonna give Baby his bottle.

That's what I'm asking.

Ok, I see how this is going to go. I'll check in later and see if you're making sense then.

 

[Spinaroonie]

Re: Re: Re: Re: So it looks like COngress is gonna give Baby his bottle.

Ok, I see how this is going to go. I'll check in later and see if you're making sense then.

I edited for clairty.

 

[Problem Child]

Why is there congressional support?

Perhaps some congress people actually think there is no other alternative than to remove Saddam by force.

Perhaps some think it will win them votes.

Perhaps some of them have invested in timeshare condos in Baghdad and are tired of waiting for their return on investment.

Perhaps some of them read the resolution wrong and think we are just going to clear some ground to put up a super wal-mart.

(Ok, this is the part where you accuse them all of launching an invasion so they'll be popular and might finally have a shot at Prom Queen after all these years of being ignored)

 

[Spinaroonie]

(Ok, this is the part where you accuse them all of launching an invasion so they'll be popular and might finally have a shot at Prom Queen after all these years of being ignored)

No way, Tom Daschle lost because he chose a red dress that clashes with his eyes.

 

[Purrde Flower]

Perhaps some congress people actually think there is no other alternative than to remove Saddam by force.

Perhaps some think it will win them votes.

Perhaps some of them have invested in timeshare condos in Baghdad and are tired of waiting for their return on investment.

Perhaps some of them read the resolution wrong and think we are just going to clear some ground to put up a super wal-mart.

(Ok, this is the part where you accuse them all of launching an invasion so they'll be popular and might finally have a shot at Prom Queen after all these years of being ignored)

This should have been taken care of the first time. Baby Bush is cleaning up his daddy's mess.

 

[Lost Cause]

And the DemSoc's break the law in NJ....

All depends on your slanted point of view. We still don't have access to the info the government has on sodamn insane, so we assume the feeble childish conclusions. While you're showing your bias towards this particular administration, check your suitcases.

-----------
Bin Laden's search for nuclear weapons began in 1988 when he hired a team of five nuclear scientists from Turkmenistan. These were former employees at the atomic reactor in Iraq before it was destroyed by Israel, Williams says. The team's project was the development of a nuclear reactor that could be used "to transform a very small amount of material that could be placed in a package smaller than a backpack."

"By 1990 bin Laden had hired hundreds of atomic scientists from the former Soviet Union for $2,000 a month – an amount far greater that their wages in the former Soviet republics," Williams writes. "They worked in a highly sophisticated and well-fortified laboratory in Kandahar, Afghanistan."

This work continued throughout the 1990s, the author says.

In 1993, according to the book, Jamal Ahmed al-Fadl, a bin Laden agent who turned into a Central Intelligence Agency source, purchased for al-Qaida a cylinder of weapons-grade uranium from a former Sudanese government minister who represented businessmen from South Africa. The purchase price was $1.5 million and the uranium was tested in Cyprus and transported to Afghanistan.

Al-Fadl reported that, at the time of this transfer, al-Qaida was already working on a deal for suitcase nukes developed for the KGB.

Williams says the Russian Mafia made another mysterious deal with "Afghani Arabs" in search of nuclear weapons in 1996. The Russians who sold the material now live in New York.

Then again in 1998, Mamdouh Mahmud Salim was arrested in Munich and charged with acting as an al-Qaida agent to purchase highly enriched uranium from a German laboratory.

That same year, according to Williams, bin Laden succeeded in buying the 20 suitcase nukes from Chechen Mafia figures, including former KGB agents. The $30 million deal was partly cash and partly heroin with a street value of $700 million.

"After the devices were obtained, they were placed in the hands of Arab nuclear scientists who, federal sources say, 'were probably trained at American universities,'" says Williams.

Though the devices were designed only to be operated by Soviet SPETZNAZ personnel, or special forces, al-Qaida scientists came up with a way of hot-wiring the bombs to the bodies of would-be martyrs, according to the book.

Suitcase nukes are not really suitcases at all, but suitcase-size nuclear devices. The weapons can be fired from grenade or rocket launchers or detonated by timers. A bomb placed in the center of a metropolitan area would be capable of instantly killing hundreds of thousands and exposing millions of others to lethal radiation.

Yossef Bodansky, author of "Bin Laden: The Man Who Declared War on America" and the U.S. Congress' top terrorism expert, concurs that bin Laden has already succeeded in purchasing suitcase nukes. Former Russian security chief Alexander Lebed also testified to Congress that 40 nuclear suitcases disappeared from the Russian arsenal after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Williams quotes an anonymous federal official as saying: "The question isn't whether bin Laden has nuclear weapons, it's when he will try to use them."

In addition to the suitcase nukes, Williams reports that al-Qaida has also obtained chemical weapons from North Korea and Iraq. Williams says the FBI confirmed to him that Saddam Hussein provided bin Laden with a "gift" of anthrax spores.

Williams says al-Qaida also includes in its arsenal plague viruses, including ebola and salmonella, from the former Soviet Union and Iraq, samples of botulism biotoxin from the Czech Republic, and sarin from Iraq and North Korea.

*

 

[Spinaroonie]

Re: And the DemSoc's break the law in NJ....

We still don't have access to the info the government has on sodamn insane.

Wait a minute!

Sodamn insane.... Saddam Hussein.... Sodamn insane......Saddam Hussein....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

HAHAHAHAHAHA

You sir, are a national treasure. Leave this place, go upon the open mic circuit. Your unique brand of original humour will prevent children with Cancer from commiting suicide. May you live for a thousand years.

 

[Dan Rather]

Virtually anyone can be a Democrat. Just simply quit
thinking and vote that way. But if you want to be a GOOD Democrat, there are
some prerequisites you must have first. Compare the below and see how you
rate.
1. You have to believe the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of
federal funding.
2. You have to believe that the same teacher who can't teach
4th graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same kids about
sex.
3. You have to believe that guns, in the hands of
law-abiding Americans, are more of a threat than U.S. nuclear weapons
technology in the hands of Chinese communists.
4. You have to believe that there was no art before Federal
funding.
5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less
affected by cyclical, documented changes in the earth's climate, and more
affected by yuppies driving SUVs.
6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial but
being homosexual is natural.
7. You have to be against capital punishment but support
abortion on demand.
8. You have to believe that businesses create oppression and
governments create prosperity.
9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature,
but loony activists from Seattle do.
10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important
than actually doing something to earn it.
11. You have to believe the military, not corrupt
politicians start wars.
12. You have to believe the NRA is bad, because it supports
certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good, because it
supports certain parts of the Constitution.
13. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees
are too high.
14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria
Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson,
General Robert E.
Lee or Thomas Edison.
15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist,
but racial quotas and set-asides aren't.
16. You have to believe Hillary Clinton is really a lady.
17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism
hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried, is because the right people haven't
been in charge.
18. You have to believe conservatives telling the truth
belong in jail, but a liar and sex offender belongs in the White House.
19. You have to believe that homosexual parades displaying
drag, transvestites and bestiality should be constitutionally protected and
manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal.
20. You have to believe that illegal Democratic party
funding by the Chinese is somehow in the best interest of the United States.
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Vote Democratic... It's easier than getting a job.

 

[A Desert Rose]

Thank you Lost Cause

Now doesn't the above post scare you just a little bit? What is it going to take? A suitcase bomb, detonated to get your attention? Nearly 3000 innocents dead and still there are some who need more "proof" that these people are evil and should be dealt with.

Thank you Lost Cause. Great post but I won't be thanking you for the nightmares it will cause me. I just hope that a few people will open their eyes after reading it.

 

[Problem Child]

Okay now that we're done with our jokes (wow, they were funny!) I'll say that this is a very serious thing that congress is contemplating. I don't know what motivates any single politician to vote the way they do. Some are playing politics, and some are just following their party line, but there are some who are bucking the party line, and those are the ones I listen to.

I listen to Joe Leiberman's reasons for going to war and I listen to Dick Armey's reasons for not going to war. I don't listen to the Daschles and the Lott's because they are spouting the party line. They may believe that they are right, but it's still the party line and it's still tainted to a certain extent.

I don't think they are all just trying to get re-elected though. I give them more credit than that...most of them, anyway. Besides, most of them will win in a landslide simply because they are incumbents. I think the majority of them are going to take this vote to heart.

That's why threads like this irritate me. Discussing war is one thing, but constantly accusing the president and his administration of wanting to go to war just for the sake of an election is pretty damn cynical. I'd hate to think that the 535 members of congress would let him get away with that if they knew that's what he were doing. I don't think they would.

 

[Spinaroonie]

Re: Thank you Lost Cause

Now doesn't the above post scare you just a little bit? What is it going to take? A suitcase bomb, detonated to get your attention? Nearly 3000 innocents dead and still there are some who need more "proof" that these people are evil and should be dealt with.

Evil is relative.

 

[Spinaroonie]

I'd hate to think that the 535 members of congress would let him get away with that if they knew that's what he were doing. I don't think they would.

I can't believe they'll vote for a resolution that will allow the president to send troops to war and inform congress TWO DAYS later

 

[Problem Child]

This should have been taken care of the first time. Baby Bush is cleaning up his daddy's mess.

We've had this argument a few hundred times already, but do you remember what the U.N. resolutions laid out in 1990?

Do you remember the mood of the country after they saw the so-called "Highway of death"?

Do you think anyone thought Saddam would last another 11 years?

Answer those questions and you'll know why we "didn't take care of him the first time".

 

[Spinaroonie]

11. You have to believe the military, not corrupt
politicians start wars.

I'd take this one out when reposting it.

 

[Problem Child]

Re: Re: Thank you Lost Cause

Evil is relative.

Yes it is, as is everything. Please define what you think would be more evil than Saddam Hussein with a suitcase nuke.

 

[lavender]

 

[Problem Child]

I can't believe they'll vote for a resolution that will allow the president to send troops to war and inform congress TWO DAYS later

What are you talking about? I hate it when you suck bong then get on the computer.

 

[Siren]