So according to rush limbaugh, the republican party stands for...

[richard_daily]

or rather against, abortion.

According to rush, that's the most important issue of the day, and the one that will decide if the GOP base will support or reject Mccain...

More proof that the republicans are ancient in their values, and out of step with progress and society.

 

[Jackotheshadows]

Careful there, yer painting with a pretty big brush.

I am Republican. And I am pro-choice.

Rush is entitled to his opinion, as is everyone else, but that doesn't necessarily make it true.

 

[KRCummings]

How is a stance on abortion indicitive of progress or the lack thereof?
Abortion has been an issue for a long, long time and has never gone away. The populace is split on it and it has always been a major sticking point during elections.
The reverse could easily be said of the Democrats. That since they support abortion then they are out of step and behind the times. The views of the masses have never changed that much.

 

[desertslave]

I think the point is that abortion isn't and shouldn't (IMO) even remotely be THE deciding issue for this election. There are so many profoundly more important issues facing the US right now. Rush's notion of priorities is the pathetic part, not the issue itself.

 

[KRCummings]

I think the point is that abortion isn't and shouldn't (IMO) even remotely be THE deciding issue for this election. There are so many profoundly more important issues facing the US right now. Rush's notion of priorities is the pathetic part, not the issue itself.

The general populace may strongly disagree that abortion should not be a major issue. Maybe not THE issue but it's gonna be one of the big ones. You got war, the economy, taxes and abortion. Probably in that order.

 

[EvelynTreemont]

When was the last time abortion was the main topic of an election?

This is proof that Rush is severely out of step, which, if this shocks you, I suggest you go outside.

 

[KRCummings]

When was the last time abortion was the main topic of an election?

This is proof that Rush is severely out of step, which, if this shocks you, I suggest you go outside.

Abortion is always a main topic. The country is pretty evenly split on it.
I don't listen to Rush so I don't know exactly what he said but he's probably closer to the truth than you might think. What the people think are big issues are not always what should be big issues.

 

[renard_ruse]

or rather against, abortion.

According to rush, that's the most important issue of the day, and the one that will decide if the GOP base will support or reject Mccain...

More proof that the republicans are ancient in their values, and out of step with progress and society.

Killing defenseless children is one of the most ancient and archaic practices in human history. Protecting the defenseless is progress, and over time we will someday return to protecting them. It will just take time to progress back to an advanced state which has temporarily been lost. To say the aborticide is not important is like saying the Holocaust was just a minor issue in Nazi Germany.

 

[Slowlane]

or rather against, abortion.

According to rush, that's the most important issue of the day, and the one that will decide if the GOP base will support or reject Mccain...

More proof that the republicans are ancient in their values, and out of step with progress and society.

Abortion has always been a huge issue. This election is no different. And, it may be the deciding factor for many in the GOP. If they don't really like McCain but he is anti abortion they will vote for him if he is pro they won't. Since the two of them ore so close in the pols that one issue may be the decider.

If you are going to have Rush on the radio try to listen. It helps.

 

[EvelynTreemont]

Abortion is always a main topic. The country is pretty evenly split on it.
I don't listen to Rush so I don't know exactly what he said but he's probably closer to the truth than you might think. What the people think are big issues are not always what should be big issues.

It is important, of course, and people are split, but I just don't see how in the midst of all that is going on now, that Rush can possibly say that it is the one thing that we are going to need to deal with. I haven't heard too much about it this election, and I am a big pro-choice person so it is something I try to pay attention to.

Also, I have an Uncle who LOVES Rush, and he says a lot of things that are decidedly.... outdated.

 

[KRCummings]

It is important, of course, and people are split, but I just don't see how in the midst of all that is going on now, that Rush can possibly say that it is the one thing that we are going to need to deal with. I haven't heard too much about it this election, and I am a big pro-choice person so it is something I try to pay attention to.

Also, I have an Uncle who LOVES Rush, and he says a lot of things that are decidedly.... outdated.

Politicians try to avoid the abortion debate if they can because it's a no-win. Sometimes they have no choice but this time it hasn't been brought up all that much. It's still out there though and people are watching and many, many votes will swing on that one issue.

 

[luxey313]

I always thought a person saying, "I am pro-life", was code for a staunchy republican.
get with the times.

I liked Rush better with a synthetic heroin habit.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

According to rush, that's the most important issue of the day, and the one that will decide if the GOP base will support or reject Mccain...

More proof that the republicans are ancient in their values, and out of step with progress and society.

The only thing it "proves" is that you could be stupid enough to actually believe that the statement of a single man could define "the most important issue of the day" for literally millions of people.

Jackotheshadows has already given you evidence of one pro-choice Republican. As for me, I'm not pro-choice, but the issue is hardly the most important to me personally and has little or no bearing on my supporting McCain.

Meanwhile, how does it work on the other side? Who do you take your marching orders from? Al Franken? Keith Olbermann?

 

[crazybbwgirl]

I thought McCain was pro-choice?

Wasn't he the first time he ran?

 

[Colonel Hogan]

It is important, of course, and people are split, but I just don't see how in the midst of all that is going on now, that Rush can possibly say that it is the one thing that we are going to need to deal with. I haven't heard too much about it this election, and I am a big pro-choice person so it is something I try to pay attention to.

I really think it has less to do with the overall importance of the issue in this election than it does with Rush and the arch-conservatives trying to influence their candidate.

Remember back in the primaries, Johnny Mac was NOT the candidate of the staunch conservatives. In fact, when he finally won the nomination, much of the far right wing was as pissed as the Hillary faction was losing to Obama.

What you're hearing now is intra-party intimidation. "At least throw us a bone in the form of an anti-abortion Vice Presidential candidate."

 

[desertslave]

I thought McCain was pro-choice?

Wasn't he the first time he ran?

NARAL and NRLC would disagree. When they both agree about something, it has to be true!

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18632802

And while now former candidate Fred Thompson, the former senator from Tennessee, won the coveted endorsement from the National Right to Life Committee, McCain's voting record on the issue is just fine, says David O'Steen, the group's executive director.

"He's been very consistent; he hasn't changed his position," O'Steen says. He says that his group has supported McCain in every one of his senate races. "We've always considered him pro-life," he says.

Nancy Keenan, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America, says her group has always considered McCain pro-life as well. And it's not just abortion, she says.

"He voted against family planning, he voted against the freedom of access to clinic entrances — that was about violence against women in clinics," Keenan says, adding, "He voted against funding for teen pregnancy-prevention programs, and making sure that abstinence only was medically accurate. This is very, very extreme."

 

[crazybbwgirl]

NARAL and NRLC would disagree. When they both agree about something, it has to be true!

I just googled him. I guess back BEFORE he ran the first time he acted a bit LESS pro-life.

 

[subwannabe]

There are two main points here that people just don't seem to understand at all:

1. Right Wing conservatives (like Rush) think that the Republican party is, well, right wing conservatives. The truth is that right wing conservatives are only a part of the Republican Party. This has finally been proven this year with the primary election of John McCain, who is a Modearate Republican, not a right wing conservative Republican. The true voters of the Republican party realized they weren't going to beat the democrats this year unless they voted for a moderate republican, not a right wing republican.

2. Left wing liberals are only a part of the democratic party, not the democratic party itself. There are moderate democrats. Unfortunately, this year every single democratic candidate running for the party was a left wing liberal, there were no moderate democrats running. Many moderate democrats, left wing liberals, and right wing conservatives believe that the Republican party is a bunch of right wing conservatives. They are wrong, as stated in #1.

The abortion issue is only important to the far right wing and the far left wing. All of the other members of both parties don't make it a huge election issue.

Most people, especially democrats, think that if Roe Vs Wade were overturned it would somehow outlaw abortions. The fact is that if it were overturned it would just mean that it couldn't be federally controlled and that the issue would be decided state by state. So, some states, like in the South, could outlaw it while more liberal states like California, New York, and the like would still allow abortions and there would be nothing that anyone could do about it.

 

[busybody..]

More proof that the republicans are ancient in their values, and out of step with progress and society.

Yup

cause KILLING BABIES is enlightened and progresive

DUMZ= Party of DEATH!

BAM voted to KILL Babies that survive abortion!

 

[Wrong Element]

I thought McCain was pro-choice?

Wasn't he the first time he ran?

Sigh. This goes a long way to explaining McCain's success. Of course, it helps that his media fan club won't stop calling him a moderate. McCain favors the criminalizing of abortion, as do all recent Republican candidates for President.

or rather against, abortion.

According to rush, that's the most important issue of the day, and the one that will decide if the GOP base will support or reject Mccain...

More proof that the republicans are ancient in their values, and out of step with progress and society.

Well, for Rush, the most important issue of the day is protecting the prerogatives of the wealthy. But he can't really say that out loud, lest anyone get the idea that the black guy who was paying off his college loans as recently as 2000 is not the "elitist" in this election.

The modern Republican party is the result of this grand bargain between the idle rich and the snake handlers.

 

[Powertone]

More proof that the republicans are ancient in their values, and out of step with progress and society.

all liberal democrat females should have at least 1 abortion as a joyous celebration of the cornerstone of the democratic party's platform.

 

[FaustARP]

Pro-life is so because anti-choice sounds worse.

Rape babies are totally awesome.

Abortion is exactly like the Holocaust. Exactly.

/end thread

 

[Sea-man]

Rush Does Not Speak For Me.

I'm a Republican ... and Rush does NOT speak for me or the GOP.

 

[Slowlane]

I'm a Republican ... and Rush does NOT speak for me or the GOP.

In total agreement here. Only I'm not a republican, more of a right wing independent.

 

[Faneros]

or rather against, abortion.

According to rush, that's the most important issue of the day, and the one that will decide if the GOP base will support or reject Mccain...

More proof that the republicans are ancient in their values, and out of step with progress and society.

It doesnt prove that they're ancient. It proves they have values, maybe you don't agree with them, but thats a different story.