Smart People your Math/economy help is needed please

[Todd-'o'-Vision]

Neal Boortz
SOMEONE ELSE GETS IT

1 I’ve been warning you for a few years now that the leftists have developed a sure-fire plan for permanent control of the Imperial Federal Government of the United States … and that they’re implementing that plan to perfection.

2 The plan is simple. Using tax increases on the rich, tax cuts for the middle and lower income groups, various tax credits, rebates, exclusions and exemptions, the left is steadily shifting the entire burden for the payment of federal income taxes to a small percentage of upper income, high-achieving Americans. The ultimate goal is for the left to be able to seize money from the high-income minority (who’s votes they don’t need) and to spend that money buying votes and undying loyalty from the middle and lower income majority.

3 Yesterday I gave you a link to a column by Paul Craig Roberts. If you didn’t read it, the link is repeated at the end of this segment. The gist of the column is that Americans are seeing their property rights slowly deteriorate and slip away. Property rights are disappearing as those who would use the government as an instrument of plunder gain the voting majority.’

4 We’ve seen the newest statistics on which income levels pay what taxes. Paul Craig Roberts does something that I haven’t seen before. He breaks down the income and taxes equation into actual voters.

5 Here is the news --- and it should scare the hell out of you.

6 There are about 199 million voters in this country. Seventy million of these voters have absolutely no federal income tax liability at all. Do the math. This means that 35 percent of voters are entirely out of the federal income tax picture. I think a good argument could be made that these people shouldn’t be voting at all.

7 OK … We’ve taken care of 35% of the voters. I’m sure you can see that these net tax consumers are hardly going to be voting Libertarian or Republican.

8 The next group of voters are the 129 million (out of the 199 million total) who actually pay federal income taxes. Roberts divides the voters who actually pay taxes into the top 25 percent and the bottom 75 percent. About 97 million voters make up the bottom 75 percent of income earners who actually pay some federal taxes. This 75 percent pays a whopping 17 percent of all federal income taxes collected. So, let’s add this 97 million voters who pay about 17 percent of the federal income taxes to the 70 million voters who pay nothing. That adds up to 167 million voters out of a total of 199 million. More math --- this means that 84 percent of all voters amount for 17 percent of all income taxes paid.

9 Now we go to the remaining voters. The 32 million we have left. These are the higher income earners. The high achievers. These 32 million Americans pay 83 percent of all federal income taxes collected. They account for 16 percent of the voters.

10 Come on, folks. Do you have to be hit with a truck here? Sixteen percent of the voters in this country are paying 83 percent of the federal income taxes. The Democrats and leftists don’t need their votes. They need their money for their big government, welfare state spending programs. When Ted Kennedy called for a tax increase last week who do you think he was talking about ? That 16 percent, that’s who. The 16 percent of Americans who are paying 83 percent of the taxes. And where did Kennedy want to spend the money? On the other 84 percent of voters, that’s where.

11 It’s foolproof, my friends. If you have 1000 voters who are going to cast votes on your future --- and if you can take money away from 160 of those voters to be used to buy votes from the other 840 … you have it made. Election assured.

12 We’re at the edge, folks. We’re rapidly approaching the point where the ballot box is no longer going to work for the high-achievers in this country. At that point there are two viable options: Open revolt, or simply withholding your labor. What’s it going to be?

1 No comment from me

2 It seems reasonable expectation after all robin hood stole from the rich and gave to the poor why should government be any different, and so what if some of those rich worked thier arses off to become rich? I mean why bother being rich if your gonna lose everything you gain?

3 I coulnd't find the link he was talkign about, but just watching or reading the news that paragraph rings so true with these "HomeLand Security" new laws and regulations that are being passed and property tax{read rent for something you already own} etc.

4 Hmmmmmmmm.

5 No comment from me

6 199 million voters? How come Bush and Gore only had a combined 5 million votes then?

7-10 that where I need the help in seeing the erroneous statements from the smart lawyery and budgetarians here, thanks in advance.

11 His conclusion if 7-10 does seem well accurate, but I am hoping you can show me that 7-10 are very inaccurte.

12 Scary conclusion if it is the case

 

[Andreina]

Economic and Political Theory 101

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FEUDALISM
You have two cows. Your lord takes some of the milk.

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PURE SOCIALISM
You have two cows. The government takes them and puts them in a barn with everyone else's cows. You have to take care of all the cows. The government gives you as much milk as you need.

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BUREAUCRATIC SOCIALISM
You have two cows. The government takes them and puts them in a barn with everyone else's cows. They are cared for by ex-chicken farmers. You have to take care of the chickens the government took from the chicken farmers. The government gives you as much milk and eggs the regulations say you should need.

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FASCISM
You have two cows. The government takes both, hires you to take care of them, and sells you the milk.

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PURE COMMUNISM
You have two cows. Your neighbors help you take care of them, and you all share the milk.

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RUSSIAN COMMUNISM
You have two cows. You have to take care of them, but the government takes all the milk.

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CAMBODIAN COMMUNISM
You have two cows. The government takes both and shoots you.

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DICTATORSHIP
You have two cows. The government takes both and drafts you.

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PURE DEMOCRACY
You have two cows. Your neighbors decide who gets the milk.

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REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY
You have two cows. Your neighbors pick someone to tell you who gets the milk.

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BUREAUCRACY
You have two cows. At first the government regulates what you can feed them and when you can milk them. Then it pays you not to milk them. Then it takes both, shoots one, milks the other and pours the milk down the drain. Then it requires you to fill out forms accounting for the missing cows.

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PURE ANARCHY

You have two cows. Either you sell the milk at a fair price or your neighbors try to take the cows and kill you.

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LIBERTARIAN: ANARCHO-CAPITALISM
You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.

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SURREALISM
You have two giraffes. The government requires you to take harmonica lessons

 

[Demian]

Bbbbbbbbobby!

I'm listening to a radio station that iz talking about how Gore would handle the War if he hadn't lost the Election

He didn't lose the Election

 

[kotori]

What's the Machiavellian version?

Economic and Political Theory 101 . . .

Great analysis, LilDev--now where would your Renaissance man come down on the issue?

 

[Andreina]

well, Machiavelli advocated a mild but cruel (sounds oxymoronic, eh?) form of Dictatorship. He wrote "The Prince" as a work of the 15th Century Italy on the practices, and they were then murder, corruption and cruelty but in reality all he wanted was to see Italy unified, but that didn't happen until 300 years later - unfortunately.

 

[kotori]

Cruel to be Kind?

well, Machiavelli advocated a mild but cruel (sounds oxymoronic, eh?) form of Dictatorship. He wrote "The Prince" as a work of the 15th Century Italy on the practices, and they were then murder, corruption and cruelty but in reality all he wanted was to see Italy unified, but that didn't happen until 300 years later - unfortunately.

Murder, Corruption and Cruelty never really go out of style, do they?

 

[Andreina]

Re: Cruel to be Kind?

Murder, Corruption and Cruelty never really go out of style, do they?

no, that's why it is so fascinating to read "The Prince". It is amazing book, so thin but so potent in its own writing. Many of his quotes are shocking, but oh-so-true.

 

[Unclebill]

Originally posted by Todd-'o'-Vision
7-10 that where I need the help in seeing the erroneous statements from the smart lawyery and budgetarians here, thanks in advance.

Todd, the figures he gives are based on those American citizens of voting age; not registered voters or even actual/likely voters.

I've head the same numbers from several other sources and the numbers correlate very closely.

But then, what else is the purpose of the progressive income tax system but to punish the most successful and productive among us? It is after all taken from the Communist Manifesto of Karl Marx as is the inheritance tax.

But I think the 5,000,000 number you quote may be low. I'd think it's probably closer to 50 Million total voters. 5 million would mean average of 500,000 per state and in San Diego County, there were 978,569 ballots cast out of 1.4 Million plus registered voters. And Calif has 58 counties. Consdering the population in LA and SF areas, I'd bet the statewide ballots cast was close to 8-10 Million.

Originally posted by Demian
He didn't lose the Election

You really need to keep up. Even after the media advocate of the Algore election win counted the vote from Florida again and again, even they couldn't manage to get it to come out right (from their perspective). Bush still won the Florida vote and hence the Presidency.

But they were very selective in their low-profile of the results being publshed. They had to publish the reseults to retain some semblance of synthetic honesty but they were careful to publish so as to keep the news VERY low profile.

Originally posted by LittleDevilWithAHalo
well, Machiavelli advocated a mild but cruel (sounds oxymoronic, eh?) form of Dictatorship.

I think what he advocated was the "benevolent dictator", still an oxymoron, however.

 

[WriterDom]

105,363,298 people voted including 2,858,843 votes for Nader who fucked Gore up the ass. GO GREEN PARTY!