Sleepy joe- Resign or get impeached

[ShyBiGuy954]

52% Say Biden Should Resign Over Afghanistan

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A majority of American voters say President Joe Biden should "resign because of the way the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan was handled," which left at least 13 U.S. service members and more than 170 Afghan civilians dead.

The results come from the latest Rasmussen Reports poll released Wednesday morning, where 52% say Biden should resign, while just 39% disagree and 9% were unsure.

If Biden does not resign — and there is no identification he ever would — an even larger majority of likely U.S. voters in the poll (60%) agreed with a call from Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., to impeach the president.

 

[Rightguide]

The man is an empty shell, seemingly into which the spirit and form of a national enemy has taken up residence.

 

[mayfly13]

The man is an empty shell, seemingly into which the spirit and form of a national enemy has taken up residence.

Shouldn't calls for Biden's resignation (which seem more than appropriate)
also be accompanied by discussions about Bush 2/Obama's roles into this useless expenditure of money and lives?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urP758HKnt0

 

[pecksniff]

He's not going to be impeached.

 

[ShyBiGuy954]

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[ShyBiGuy954]

He's not going to be impeached.

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[ShyBiGuy954]

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[Rightguide]

Shouldn't calls for Biden's resignation (which seem more than appropriate)
also be accompanied by discussions about Bush 2/Obama's roles into this useless expenditure of money and lives?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urP758HKnt0

The focus should not be on our desire to leave Afghanistan. I think we all agree we should reduce our footprint there. The focus should be on how we left, how the enemy benefited from it, the incompetence involved in Biden's decision to alter the existing plan, his decision to cede control of Kabul to the Taliban, his decision to surrender Bagram Airbase, his decision to remove all troops before American citizens, diplomats, and allies, and his outright lies to the public about those decisions, and why he left American citizens behind and lied about it. And finally, if by leaving completely we haven't enabled a future attack on American from Afghanistan.

Remember the original goal in going there in the first place. To go after bin Laden, eliminate Al-Qaeda, punish into insignificance the Taliban, and to prevent Afghanistan from being a base of operations for future terror networks with plans to attack the United States. George Bush told us on day one this war against terror would last 20 years or more, and it has. Where we went wrong is the nation building political schemes we tried to impose on an ancient tribal society of people who haven't evolved socially into those the higher ideals of equality, etc., of Western Civilization.

All we should have done is quickly with overwhelming force go after the Taliban, kill Al-Qaeda, it's leadership, and destroy their logistical ability to operate there. Then on a threat of total destruction, dictate terms to the Afghan government, that we were going to maintain a small but credible military force at Bagram to enable the establishment of an intelligence network into the future, to monitor any emergence of that activity from Pakistan and interdict it as required.

Lastly, we have to understand that Joe Biden didn't end the "war" in Afghanistan. He started a new one. We will be attacked from there again. We will be forced into going back to Afghanistan to face an even better armed and supported enemy.

 

[ShyBiGuy954]

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[coati]

He's not going to be impeached.

And he is not going to resign over this issue.

 

[RoryN]

McConnell says no to impeachment.

 

[icanhelp1]

The focus should not be on our desire to leave Afghanistan. I think we all agree we should reduce our footprint there. The focus should be on how we left, how the enemy benefited from it, the incompetence involved in Biden's decision to alter the existing plan, his decision to cede control of Kabul to the Taliban, his decision to surrender Bagram Airbase, his decision to remove all troops before American citizens, diplomats, and allies, and his outright lies to the public about those decisions, and why he left American citizens behind and lied about it. And finally, if by leaving completely we haven't enabled a future attack on American from Afghanistan.

Remember the original goal in going there in the first place. To go after bin Laden, eliminate Al-Qaeda, punish into insignificance the Taliban, and to prevent Afghanistan from being a base of operations for future terror networks with plans to attack the United States. George Bush told us on day one this war against terror would last 20 years or more, and it has. Where we went wrong is the nation building political schemes we tried to impose on an ancient tribal society of people who haven't evolved socially into those the higher ideals of equality, etc., of Western Civilization.

All we should have done is quickly with overwhelming force go after the Taliban, kill Al-Qaeda, it's leadership, and destroy their logistical ability to operate there. Then on a threat of total destruction, dictate terms to the Afghan government, that we were going to maintain a small but credible military force at Bagram to enable the establishment of an intelligence network into the future, to monitor any emergence of that activity from Pakistan and interdict it as required.

Lastly, we have to understand that Joe Biden didn't end the "war" in Afghanistan. He started a new one. We will be attacked from there again. We will be forced into going back to Afghanistan to face an even better armed and supported enemy.

I'm not convinced we should have left.

I wish someone with authority would instruct Jeff Dunham to remove his dummy from the white house.

 

[icanhelp1]

And he is not going to resign over this issue.

Of course he won't, he's a fifty year establishment bureaucrat that never held a real job and lacks the moral courage to do what's right for America. It's one thing to be incompetent it's another to be incompetent and a communist. CCP is laughing their collective asses at him.

 

[Rightguide]

I'm not convinced we should have left.

I wish someone with authority would instruct Jeff Dunham to remove his dummy from the white house.

I think we should have stayed in the capacity I stated. Hold Bagram with a sufficient force, say a regiment or a brigade, for intel gathering and interdiction of terrorist movements and activities within the country.

 

[icanhelp1]

I think we should have stayed in the capacity I stated. Hold Bagram with a sufficient force, say a regiment or a brigade, for intel gathering and interdiction of terrorist movements and activities within the country.

As long as the Afghan army is capable of providing force protection. Need to get that money back from Ghani.

 

[Rightguide]

As long as the Afghan army is capable of providing force protection. Need to get that money back from Ghani.

We didn't help matters when we skipped out on them unannounced. I think they could have gotten by with a smaller force of truly dedicated soldiers instead of the alleged 300,000 man fiasco, backed by sufficient airpower at Bagram.

 

[pecksniff]

It's one thing to be incompetent it's another to be incompetent and a communist.

 

[icanhelp1]

We didn't help matters when we skipped out on them unannounced. I think they could have gotten by with a smaller force of truly dedicated soldiers instead of the alleged 300,000 man fiasco, backed by sufficient airpower at Bagram.

Even then we had already lost it. We needed to increase ground troops in april to facilitate retrograde ops starting with evacuating civilians and Afghan sivs with a plan to destroy equipment left behind.

The decision to stay would have had to been made in 2018 giving assurances to the afghan army and political ranks we were committed. Trump played a big part in this cluster fuck. He set in motion the breakdown of the Afghan government, as corrupt as it was, and army.

That being said, Biden's failure to not reinforce troop strength in April to ensure sufficient capability to keep and protect Bagram as well as force projection inside Kabul to go and get civilians and SIVs and carry out the threat to the Taliban with severe consequences if they didn't get the fuck out of the way.

IMHO

 

[Cubantripod]

Shouldn't calls for Biden's resignation (which seem more than appropriate)
also be accompanied by discussions about Bush 2/Obama's roles into this useless expenditure of money and lives?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urP758HKnt0

They're not the sitting president, Biden is.

 

[Cubantripod]

He's not going to be impeached.

He should, but because Dems. control the House, he won't.

 

[icanhelp1]

He should, but because Dems. control the House, he won't.

Pelosi refuses to hold any democrat accountable. She will go down in history as the most tyrannical speaker ever. She prefered to play her majority hand rather than consensus. It's OK to use your majority on occasion but pushing everything by simple majority just creates more divide.

 

[phrodeau]

So, President Harris then?

 

[Rightguide]

Even then we had already lost it. We needed to increase ground troops in april to facilitate retrograde ops starting with evacuating civilians and Afghan sivs with a plan to destroy equipment left behind.


IMHO

Totally agree with this. I don't believe for a minute that Trump would have precipitated the kind of fiasco that Biden did. Remember he was talked out of his original plan to leave lock stock and barrel.

When Biden cut the troop levels down and precipitously bugged out of Bagram, he set the Afghan Army afoot for the hills. It wasn't about us winning or losing in my mind, it was about leaving a credible force there to deter further manifestations of terrorist activity that could be aimed at us or our allies.

Not to diminish in any way the experiences or sacrifice of any American who fought in Afghanistan, but casualty wise, compared to WWII, Korea, or Vietnam, it doesn't even compare. In Afghanistan, we lost 2400 men killed over 20 years, we lost more than that in just 5 months of one year during 1968 in Vietnam. There were more of our Marines killed in Vietnam than in all of the Pacific battles of WWII, that war only lasted four years, Vietnam lasted 10 years.

Of course today we have better technology, better weapons, better intelligence. What we lack are leaders at the top who have the will to bring upon the enemy the full force and might of that technology and those weapons. It's almost as if we regard the power of our weapons as "unfair," or "piling on," and that it's only good and proper we show a respectable amount of dead.

We saw hints of this when we started going after Iraqi forces retreating from Kuwait with over whelming air power, and the press whined about how it was a slaughter and Bush, attuned to the "optics" turned it off and allowed them to escape to fight us at another time and place, to kill even more of us. Trump, FDR, Truman, would have crushed them right then and there.

 

[phrodeau]

The withdrawal would have been worse under Trump. Just as it was in northern Syria.

 

[Rightguide]

The withdrawal would have been worse under Trump. Just as it was in northern Syria.

Stop with the uneducated shit.