Sleeping with the Enemy. Part Deux

[Ishmael]

This would be funny if it weren't so damn maddeningly true.
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Michelle Malkin

September 6, 2002

Protect America: stop marrying terrorists!

Here's another item to add to Dr. Laura's list of "10 Stupid Things Women Do to Mess Up Their Lives": Stupid treachery.

An alarming number of American women have ruined their lives -- and threatened the lives of their fellow citizens -- by marrying Middle Eastern militants out of emotional immaturity. Others have helped radical Islamists out of pure greed.

Take Jessica Yolanda Fortune, who united with Lebanon-born Chawki Youssef Hammoud in 1994. The marriage enabled him to obtain a green card -- and the cover to operate a Charlotte, N.C.-based cell that smuggled cigarettes to raise cash for the terrorist Hezbollah organization. Hammoud was convicted of smuggling, credit card fraud, money laundering and racketeering in June 2002.

In Fortune's personal diary and letters, used by her lawyer in an attempt to win sympathy with a federal jury, she admitted committing perjury about the sham marriage in an attempt to win Hammoud's love. "I married you because I wanted to help you get your green card," she had written to Hammoud, "but also because I wanted to show I could be a good wife to you."

There's a great pitch: Love me, I'm a great liar!

Later, still pathetically perplexed by her unrequited passion, Fortune wrote to Hammoud: "What is it about me you hate?"

Gee, maybe it had something to do with those "Death to America" videos found in Hammoud's brother's home?

Even after Chawki Hammoud's arrest, Fortune refused to consider any plea bargains because she didn't want to testify against him. Her lawyer cast Fortune as a "naive" victim. But in the shadow of the September 11 attacks, common-sense jurors were in no mood to shed tears for a terrorist enabler. Fortune was convicted of
marriage fraud in October 2001.

Meanwhile, Fortune's brother-in-law, Mohammed Hammoud, married three different American women. After arriving in the United States on a counterfeit visa, being ordered deported and filing an appeal, he wed Sabina Edwards to gain a green card. INS officials refused to award him legal status after this first marriage was
deemed bogus in 1994.

Undaunted, he married Jessica Wedel in May 1997, and while still wed to her, paid Angela Tsioumas (already married to someone else, too) to marry him in Detroit. The Tsioumas union netted Mohammed Hammoud temporary legal residence and quick bucks for Tsioumas. According to federal authorities, she bragged to others that she would "marry any of them for the right price."

Tsioumas entered a plea agreement in March 2002 on charges of conspiracy. Her "husband" was convicted on 16 counts that included providing material support to Hezbollah.

El Sayyid A. Nosair wed Karen Ann Mills Sweeney to avoid deportation for overstaying his visa. He acquired U.S. citizenship and was later convicted for conspiracy in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing that claimed six lives. Ali Mohamed became an American citizen after marrying a woman he met on a plane trip from Egypt to New York. Recently divorced, Linda Lee Sanchez wed Mohamed in Reno, Nev., after a six-week "courtship." Mohamed became a top aide to Osama bin Laden and was later convicted for his role in the 1998 U.S. Embassy bombings in Africa that killed 12 Americans and more than 200 others.

Two other embassy bombing plotters followed similar paths: Khalid Abu al Dahab obtained citizenship after marrying three different American women. Wadih el Hage, Osama bin Laden's personal secretary, married April Ray in 1985 and became a naturalized citizen in 1989. Ray knew of her husband's employment with bin Laden, but like many of these women in bogus marriages, she pleaded ignorance about the nature of her husband's work.

El Hage, she says, was a sweet man -- and bin Laden "was a great boss."

Then there's Christy Layne of Canton, Ohio, who accepted $1,100 from Zuhaier Ben Mohammed Rouissi to marry him in August 2000 after his tourist visa lapsed. Rouissi is a Tunisian national with ties to top terrorist suspects. Layne told federal investigators she met Rouissi in a bar and married him to "get back" at her boyfriend, with whom she had fought.

My fellow American women, it's time to stop being so stupid, selfish and naive. Stay away from young, single Jihadists with wads of cash and bomb-building manuals in their bedrooms. We are at war, ladies. Put your self-respect -- and your country -- first. When you sleep with the enemy, you endanger us all.

 

[Monazwx]

This entire thread is disturbing.

I don't know which is worse, the naive girl marrying for unrequited love, the sellout marrying for money or you saying to avoid all Middle-Eastern men altogether.

 

[Silverluna]

It's just scary....



and irritating

 

[Ishmael]

This entire thread is disturbing.

I don't know which is worse, the naive girl marrying for unrequited love, the sellout marrying for money or you saying to avoid all Middle-Eastern men altogether.

Hey Mona, I didn't write it and Michelle did not say to stay away from middle eastern men. She was quite specific.

But I can tell you that middle eastern men should raise warning flags that would have to be lowered if I were a woman. Their overall track record is not all that good. Besides the issues discussed in Michelle's article, they are prone to abuse and most of the kidnappings of American children back to the country of origin of the father have been perpetrated by middle eastern men.

(And before some multi-culturalist gets his/her fucking nose out of joint, not all are that way.)

Ishmael

 

[Silverluna]

I personally would not marry a member of a cultural group that belittles women like they do. I know I will get eaten alive by this, but damnit janet , that's how i feel. They put us down. Treat us like shit....and I choose not to participate with anything relating them.

 

[Ishmael]

I personally would not marry a member of a cultural group that belittles women like they do. I know I will get eaten alive by this, but damnit janet , that's how i feel. They put us down. Treat us like shit....and I choose not to participate with anything relating them.

Uhhhhhhhh, care to be a little less ambigious SL?

Ishmael

 

[Silverluna]

Uhhhhhhhh, care to be a little less ambigious SL?

Ishmael

I don't know....


Lots of women's bodies are mangled..."religion" requires it....Just...well...I'm sorry but that irrates me.

Like I think someone said, prone to abuducting their children back to their land....ABUDUCT!!! Not take....KIDNAP!

 

[Ishmael]

I don't know....


Lots of women's bodies are mangled..."religion" requires it....Just...well...I'm sorry but that irrates me.

Like I think someone said, prone to abuducting their children back to their land....ABUDUCT!!! Not take....KIDNAP!

Yeah, abduct is probably more correct. I guess the difference is whether you ask for money or not. I suspect that there's little difference regarding the effect on the mother of the children.

Ishmael

 

[Silverluna]

Yeah, abduct is probably more correct. I guess the difference is whether you ask for money or not. I suspect that there's little difference regarding the effect on the mother of the children.

Ishmael

they have little respect there....even with their own women...or women outside of the "marriage" ....have little respect

I am not a feminst, not to confuse anyone but even us timid women deserve some respect.

 

[Texan]

My dad worked for the U.S. INS for 30 years. Long before this mess got started, he said he had seen countless Middle Eastern men (mostly Iranian) come to the states on student visas. Shortly before their visas were schedule to expire, they would find the homeliest (read ugliest) girl on campus, sweep her off her feet and get her to marry him. It took about six months for the permanent resident status to be granted to the guy. As soon as that happened, the guy would take his new wife on a little vacation back to Iran. There, he would go stand on a street corner and say, out loud, "I divorce you. I divorce you. I divorce you." This and filling out a piece of paper was all that was necessary for the Iranian divorce to be final. Then the guy would come back to the states. (Often the woman would have to contact her parents to get money for a plane ticket.) The U.S. would honor the Irian divorce. However, the permanent residency status of the Iranian guy remained valid.

My little sister dated an Irian guy for a few months while in college. It was everything my dad could do, not to kill the guy. Fortunately, she later married a U.S. Navy nuclear submarine technician.

 

[nawtyleanni]

Well, my first real boyfriend was Pakistani. He was born here, but his parents moved here from Pakistan. And the reason they moved here is because they loved America and all the opportunities it represented.

I really don't have a problem with what Michelle Malkin wrote, but I do think we should try to judge people as individuals. It's ignorant to swear off an entire group of people just because you don't like the behavior and beliefs of some members of that group.

 

[Ishmael]

they have little respect there....even with their own women...or women outside of the "marriage" ....have little respect

I am not a feminst, not to confuse anyone but even us timid women deserve some respect.

Well, I respect you. Now bend over, you bring out the Greek in me.

Ishmael

 

[Silverluna]

My dad worked for the U.S. INS for 30 years. Long before this mess got started, he said he had seen countless Middle Eastern men (mostly Iranian) come to the states on student visas. Shortly before their visas were schedule to expire, they would find the homeliest (read ugliest) girl on campus, sweep her off her feet and get her to marry him. It took about six months for the permanent resident status to be granted to the guy. As soon as that happened, the guy would take his new wife on a little vacation back to Iran. There, he would go stand on a street corner and say, out loud, "I divorce you. I divorce you. I divorce you." This and filling out a piece of paper was all that was necessary for the Iranian divorce to be final. Then the guy would come back to the states. (Often the woman would have to contact her parents to get money for a plane ticket.) The U.S. would honor the Irian divorce. However, the permanent residency status of the Iranian guy remained valid.

My little sister dated an Irian guy for a few months while in college. It was everything my dad could do, not to kill the guy. Fortunately, she later married a U.S. Navy nuclear submarine technician.

even more frightening....(not the navy tech guy)

 

[Silverluna]

Well, I respect you. Now bend over, you bring out the Greek in me.

Ishmael

for you .....? hmmm maybe...*turns into Aphrodite and uses her charms to change your mind* You don't want to do that....

 

[Ishmael]

Well, my first real boyfriend was Pakistani. He was born here, but his parents moved here from Pakistan. And the reason they moved here is because they loved America and all the opportunities it represented.

I really don't have a problem with what Michelle Malkin wrote, but I do think we should try to judge people as individuals. It's ignorant to swear off an entire group of people just because you don't like the behavior and beliefs of some members of that group.

That isn't what she said, is it? The problem is that so many think that not judging is the cause celeb' today. Cultures have their own peculiarities and customs. Most Americans have been indoctrinated, or are to stupid to understand, that they aren't all "just like us" and that there are many things about many cultures that are not all that desireable. There is a tendency to only see the good points. And that is the blindness of fools.

Of course you should judge everyone as an individual. But that does not mean that you blind yourself to the less desirable characteristics of a culture. There is nothing wrong with taking cultural beliefs and practices into consideration. It's not 'racist', it's prudent. Especially if you are making a decision that may involve children, or your very life.

Texan's story is very illuminating. If that same Iranian turned out to be a Pakistani from a small village, he could have taken her there, accused her of adultery, and have her stoned to death. Bizzare? Not entirely. A story of that sort comes out of the area monthly. So, he gets a 'permanent' divorce, the insurance, and permanent residence. What a deal.

Ishmael

 

[Ishmael]

for you .....? hmmm maybe...*turns into Aphrodite and uses her charms to change your mind* You don't want to do that....

Drop the 'spikes' then.

Ishmael

 

[LovetoGiveRoses]

Nasty. There should be restrictions greater than 6 months then.

 

[HeavyStick]

someone wake up pp man and redwave..... my zoloft wore off and I'm ready for some socialist hippie drunken pot smoking rant to suppress

 

[Ishmael]

someone wake up pp man and redwave..... my zoloft wore off and I'm ready for some socialist hippie drunken pot smoking rant to suppress

I think they're spending some 'quality' time together.

Ishmael

 

[Silverluna]

Drop the 'spikes' then.

Ishmael

*goddess form wears off* Wah? Spikes? huh?

 

[HeavyStick]

I think they're spending some 'quality' time together.

Ishmael

*shudders at the thought of a chemical dependant hippie drunken european lawyer poet*

 

[morninggirl5]

My dad worked for the U.S. INS for 30 years. Long before this mess got started, he said he had seen countless Middle Eastern men (mostly Iranian) come to the states on student visas. Shortly before their visas were schedule to expire, they would find the homeliest (read ugliest) girl on campus, sweep her off her feet and get her to marry him. It took about six months for the permanent resident status to be granted to the guy. As soon as that happened, the guy would take his new wife on a little vacation back to Iran. There, he would go stand on a street corner and say, out loud, "I divorce you. I divorce you. I divorce you." This and filling out a piece of paper was all that was necessary for the Iranian divorce to be final. Then the guy would come back to the states. (Often the woman would have to contact her parents to get money for a plane ticket.) The U.S. would honor the Irian divorce. However, the permanent residency status of the Iranian guy remained valid.

My little sister dated an Irian guy for a few months while in college. It was everything my dad could do, not to kill the guy. Fortunately, she later married a U.S. Navy nuclear submarine technician.

In 1986, i attended a Memphis State University in a special program for high school juniors and seniors. The program was aimed at International Studies and i "lucked" into the group that got to learn some basic Arabic. All the young women in the group were warned about this scenario by the professors before we met the "native speakers" who were serving as teaching assistants.

 

[nawtyleanni]

That isn't what she said, is it? The problem is that so many think that not judging is the cause celeb'

Correct, and I wasn't criticizing what Michelle Malkin said. I was taking issue with what SilverLuna said. You guys are talking about horror stories. I'm sure we could fill up a thread with a bunch of terrible things that white men or black men have done. Or how about just men in general? Maybe women should just stay away from men altogether since a certain percentage of them are rapists.

 

[Silverluna]

Correct, and I wasn't criticizing what Michelle Malkin said. I was taking issue with what SilverLuna said. You guys are talking about horror stories. I'm sure we could fill up a thread with a bunch of terrible things that white men or black men have done. Or how about just men in general? Maybe women should just stay away from men altogether since a certain percentage of them are rapists.

I knew it...I knew I'd get my ass raped for this.....

I was trying to illustrate my reasons for not wanting relationships with them. Sorry if you miss understood my methods.

 

[Ishmael]

Correct, and I wasn't criticizing what Michelle Malkin said. I was taking issue with what SilverLuna said. You guys are talking about horror stories. I'm sure we could fill up a thread with a bunch of terrible things that white men or black men have done. Or how about just men in general? Maybe women should just stay away from men altogether since a certain percentage of them are rapists.

Or the things women have done maybe?

But that wasn't the point and that wasn't how what you said came out. Thanks for the clarification.

SL is entitled to her opinion. And her opinion is NOT wrong. Any more than yours is. It's an opinion. When people understand that it really is OK to discriminate, then we'll be getting back to a rational society. And discrimination has NOTHING to do with prejudice. Nothing at all.

Ishmael


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