Six months, eh? Throw him in the general population, open cell door.

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Problem solved. Even in jail he'll get his.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36459504
Brock Turner, 20, was sentenced to six months in jail for sexually assaulting an unconscious woman last year.

The victim's impact statement, which was read out in court, was also widely shared on social media.

The judge expressed concern about the impact of prison on Turner.

Prosecutors said that in January 2015, Turner had been seen by two witnesses sexually assaulting the woman, who was lying on the ground, unconscious, on the Stanford campus.
 
The victim also claims some of the contact was consensual from what she could remember


so..

there's a pickle for you, LT

how you answer will tell everyone a lot about you
 
Another case of Affluenza

I read the rapist father wrote to the judge. All he wrote was how hisson was not eating, moodily and depressed. He also wrote of all his son's accomplishments since he was born. Being drunk is no excuse for rape. His parents apparently did not teach him to respect women and that rape was a crime.

Even if the girl had had previous sexual contact with the rapist, her drunken state precludes informed consent. The rapist should have been imprisoned for at least five years then upon release made to wear a monitor for at least six months to a year.

This guy will rape again.
 
Whenever I read something like "seen by two witnesses assaulting the woman" I always want to know two things

1-why did they just watch?

2-why aren't they facing charges for letting it happen?

In the Big Dan's case in RI a bar full of people watched a woman get gang raped on a pool table (the accused by Jodie Foster is based on this) and in the end I believe the judge threw time at some of the bystanders.
 
It's all to easy to want to punish the rapist and I understand the desire many have for him to experience the same brutal act carried on him.

It's not the solution though. He seems to have some pretty big psychological issues. The details of the crime suggest to me his next attack would be far worse for the victim. The public need protecting from him. He needs psychological support he may never understand the impact and abhorrent nature of his crime, not punishment. I think based on press reports of his fathers statement he needs some too.

The victim will need support for years. Read her statement
 
Whenever I read something like "seen by two witnesses assaulting the woman" I always want to know two things

1-why did they just watch?

2-why aren't they facing charges for letting it happen?

In the Big Dan's case in RI a bar full of people watched a woman get gang raped on a pool table (the accused by Jodie Foster is based on this) and in the end I believe the judge threw time at some of the bystanders.

1. They didn't just watch. They chased him down, tackled him, and restrained him until police arrived.

2. See 1.
 
1. They didn't just watch. They chased him down, tackled him, and restrained him until police arrived.

2. See 1.

I was generalizing and it happens, see big dans...

hell these days, I'm surprised people don't stop and film rape and any type of assault with their phones and take selfies with the victims.

Course the 80 days has LJ ticked-rightfully-but if he was a frat boy at a party it would have been the girls fault with no criminal action filed, the school would 'handle it' ala Penn state which should just be shut the fuck down after the child rape that went on for decades and the recent date rapes and passed out girls having sex acts performed on them and nude pictures of them posted all over the internet

Bottom line, rapists should simply be castrated and sent back into society, can't shoot any one with an unloaded gun, right?
 
Six months seems about right to me. We are talking about two drunks, one was finger banging the other. (Hence the sexual assault charge, and why the original rape charges were dropped.) She was blacked out and really can't recall what happened. An alcohol blackout does not mean unconscious, it means the mind is unable to create memories.

Six months is fair and frankly is a bit harsh.
 
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It's all to easy to want to punish the rapist and I understand the desire many have for him to experience the same brutal act carried on him.

It's not the solution though. He seems to have some pretty big psychological issues. The details of the crime suggest to me his next attack would be far worse for the victim. The public need protecting from him. He needs psychological support he may never understand the impact and abhorrent nature of his crime, not punishment. I think based on press reports of his fathers statement he needs some too.

The victim will need support for years. Read her statement

She didn't write that statement. It reads like it was written by a HuffPo editor, not a regular victims statement at all.
 
The victim also claims some of the contact was consensual from what she could remember


so..

there's a pickle for you, LT

how you answer will tell everyone a lot about you
That you don't know what my answer would be shows how little you understand me and how thoroughly you misinterpret everything I say.

I sincerely doubt any of that was consensual. That mitch should have gotten years in prison, in gen fucking pop. Let them rip him a new bloody anus and then shank him in the head.
 
For what it was it seems fair. Maybe a little light but not by a whole lot. I understand the victim wanting more and the outrage people have over it but when everything is factored in it just seems fair to me. Perhaps the guy really is a monster and deserves more but I don't think so. I think he is a kid who did a terrible thing and has remorse. I think the victim suffered and it will affect her whole life. No easy answer.
 
I dont normally comment

on matter such as this, but here, I have to disagree. The sentence sends a very, very wrong message to people like Brock Turner. It is NOT OK, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, to have sex with someone against their will, or without their knowledge. The latter is almost worse; at least conscious they have a chance to resist.
I read the victim's statement yesterday. It made me feel a little sick, it made me teary-eyed and it made me angry. Prison may "have an impact" on this over-privileged little shitbag, but the rape will have an impact on this poor woman for the rest of her life. The judge was wrong.
 
on matter such as this, but here, I have to disagree. The sentence sends a very, very wrong message to people like Brock Turner. It is NOT OK, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, to have sex with someone against their will, or without their knowledge. The latter is almost worse; at least conscious they have a chance to resist.
I read the victim's statement yesterday. It made me feel a little sick, it made me teary-eyed and it made me angry. Prison may "have an impact" on this over-privileged little shitbag, but the rape will have an impact on this poor woman for the rest of her life. The judge was wrong.

Criminal sentences are not meant to send messages, and victim statements are not relevant in determining a sentence.
 
College athletes and professional athletes usually get 2-3 years in the slammer when convicted of a sexual assault, which is a slap on the wrist when compared to what is typically given to non-athletes.

Athletes are given special treatment when convicted of serious crimes.
 
College athletes and professional athletes usually get 2-3 years in the slammer when convicted of a sexual assault, which is a slap on the wrist when compared to what is typically given to non-athletes.

Athletes are given special treatment when convicted of serious crimes.

Tell that to Aaron Hernandez.
 
Tell that to Aaron Hernandez.

Aaron Hernandez was convicted of 1st degree murder, which is the #1 most serious crime that we have a law for in the United States. The law doesn't care who you are (unless you're a billionaire or a politician) when it comes to prosecuting murder cases.

Rape is a different story, and wealthy athletes can afford to hire the best defense lawyers to get them off the hook most of the times.

NFL star Ben Rothlisberger was accused of rape and there was quite a bit of plausible evidence against him, but his case never went to trial and he's a free man.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/16/roethlisberger.incident/
 
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Aaron Hernandez was convicted of 1st degree murder, which is the #1 most serious crime that we have a law for in the United States.

Rape is a different story, and wealthy athletes can afford to hire the best defense lawyers to get them off the hook most of the times.

NFL star Ben Rothlisberger was accused of rape and there was quite a bit of plausible evidence against him, but today he's a free man.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/16/roethlisberger.incident/

He wasn't charged with anything. Can't send a guy to prison without a trial no matter how much the Ravens, Browns and Bengals would like to.
You're going to find lots of stories like that but the ones that get charged usually do time proportionate to their crime. Not all but not all average joes do either.
 
He wasn't charged with anything. Can't send a guy to prison without a trial no matter how much the Ravens, Browns and Bengals would like to.
You're going to find lots of stories like that but the ones that get charged usually do time proportionate to their crime. Not all but not all average joes do either.

His lawyers got the case dismissed claiming that his accuser fabricated the rape story in an attempt to file litigation and extort money.
 
His lawyers got the case dismissed claiming that his accuser fabricated the rape story in an attempt to file litigation and extort money.

Yes, that is what lawyers do. They don't just do it for athletes either.
You're using a really bad example.
 
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