i know that there are lots of women and men who derive sensual pleasure by sitting on the toilet and "taking a shit." studying a woman or man's facial expressions, breathing patterns, and noises both from the butt and the guttural can be erotic, amped up further by issues of dominance/humiliation. whenever i try to pursue this pleasurable fetish, i get pigeon-holed into the "scat" category. this is wholly imappropriate as i do not want to eat nor play in someone's anal products but i do think that the process is sensual. while the concomitant stink may weigh on the negative side,it is overbourne by the facial expressions and the site of the vulnerable little twats and even dicks. where are others of this bent? al