Sick...Just absolutely sick....

[Ksss]

An article ran in this mornings paper about a frustrated mother (age 25) who threw her 7 week old baby on the floor in a fit of rage. The doctors who examined this baby discovered 9 broken ribs, two broken collar bones, one leg had been broken in three places, multiple bruising to the body. The mother, who lives with her parents, was frustrated with her boyfriend and took her "anger" out on this defenseless baby. The worse part of this story was the fact that this woman managed to hide this for 13 days before the baby was taken to the hospital, where upon X-Rays, they doctors found bones which had been broken previously.

Why people like this are allowed to have children really disturbs me. I am not usually one for violence to beget violence, but in my eyes death for this woman would be too easy...And people wonder why I don't like to read the newspapers...

 

[Kadee]

If there was a way to keep those kind of people from having kids....many of us wouldn't be here. I know I wouldn't. It's sad to hear stories of kids being mis-treated in any way. I get so angry when I read stuff like that. And sadly enough, the kids often times get pulled from the homes and then put right back in. You are right...It's sick!

 

[JD]

Very sick in deed Ksss, but the sad part of it, the ones that are never reported and that the news papers don't hear about......

 

[Xander]

You know. baby bashing or thing simular like this. Because frustrated people have a serious impulse control problem. Make me red hot angry.

Death is not punishment. Death is supposed to be a release from life.

Now, I'm thinking more about shooting nail through the knee caps, and stuff like that.
Now THAT punishment.

 

[CreamyLady]

The difficulty is impulse control, coupled with a great deal of rage and frustration. Something snaps, and the easiest target is chosen.

I'm not excusing this behavior, by the way. It's deplorable. What is equally deplorable, however, are the people around the perpetrators who seem to do nothing to alleviate the problem.

New mothers are very vulnerable emotionally. They don't get enough sleep, their bodies are worn out, they are hormonal snakepits and they are trying to cope with a new and demanding personality. They need mothering as much as the baby, someone to take care of them. A lot of the time, however, all they get is a "Buck up; the blues will pass" kind of attitude.

Most of our horror at the crime comes from the secret knowledge that each and every one of us could snap like that and hurt our children. We don't like to acknowledge this, but it is very true.

So, she's going to punished as a murderous monster. Just think, though, before passing judgment on her character: who stepped in when you were punchy from lack of sleep, holding down a job, and trying to calm down a colicky or teething baby at 3:00 a.m.?

I don't think of her as a monster. Just someone frustrated, angry and without resources, and someone who will probably have a load of regret to carry forever.

 

[livin_simple]

I'm sorry CreamyLady, I've gotta disagree with your conclusion. Yes indeed we all have the capacity to snap and abuse defenseless victims. I believe the line was crossed when she did not immediately seek the medical attention that her child obviously required as a result of her snapping.

 

[CreamyLady]

Oh, absolutely. However, she was living with her parents. Were they so indifferent to her and her problems, or the baby's distress, that they stood by and did nothing?

I'm sorry, but I think the families of new mothers have an obligation to protect both mother and child, particularly when the mother can't do it.

 

[BrainyBeauty]

Recently a law was passed here to allow for the safe, no-questions-asked drop off of newborns at a variety of local hospitals. I am not sure as to the time frame but a couple of days post-delivery seems to ring familiar. I think it might be beneficial to extend that time frame to a few weeks to avoid cases such as this.

Usually it appears to be young women in their teens or early twenties, but I suppose it could happen to any age group. As it is not feasible nor prudent for the government to step in and forbid "people like this" (as you put it Ksss) to procreate, perhaps a solution might be mandatory parenting classes??? I wonder if it would work - either during pregnancy or post partum.

If we insist upon registration and licensing from everything from driving privileges to opening up a hot dog cart on a city street, surely we should hold the raising and rearing of children to the same scrutiny and standards. Don't you think?

Short of that, perhaps society can get back to being good samaritans. Watch out for our neighbors. Extend a helping hand. Could go a long way to helping defuse such a tense situation and the resulting devastating outcome.

 

[chatbug]

If we insist upon registration and licensing from everything from driving privileges to opening up a hot dog cart on a city street, surely we should hold the raising and rearing of children to the same scrutiny and standards. Don't you think?

The question becomes, who's scrutiny. Society can't even agree on the meaning of the word "is" anymore; how can we possibly agree on good parenting standards? Sorry, but I hope this never happens.

Short of that, perhaps society can get back to being good samaritans. Watch out for our neighbors. Extend a helping hand. Could go a long way to helping defuse such a tense situation and the resulting devastating outcome.

This I agree with, although people are scared of being sued or assaulted if they "interfere".

 

[Ksss]

I do understand the pressures this woman may be facing...I worked 60-70 hrs a week, had two small children to care for, was trying to attend college part-time. I also was caring for my father-in-law who was ill. I had a husband who was at the race tracks more than he was at home, leaving all of the "home" responsibilites to me. My parents never supported me emotionally or financially. I was on my own. But, never did I ever consider taking my frustrations out on my children!
I didn't mean to catagorize this woman with my "people like this" statement...It just made me angry that any one could hurt a defenseless child in this manner. There are other ways in which to direct ones anger, perhaps anger management courses should become mandatory...

 

[Nogard]

CreamyLady; I agree 100% It is a shame that most people don't understand the problem. Shoot the wrong parent and when that is done, wait until the next one happens then shoot them to. Have to fix the problem. If we don't it will only continue. Stick to your guns kid

 

[Naked Hunny]

Wait a minute this chick beats the crap out of her kid and im in a custody battle because my daughter got a broken arm at a liscensed daycare!

 

[Angel]

Are you fucking serious, NH? ugh.

 

[Andra_Jenny]

Though it is a sad truth that a two year-old can push you to the limit faster than a pushy boss, a naggy spouse, or a bully. They just know!

 

[Naked Hunny]

yup im serious during the investigation my father and stepmother cared for snickerdoodle and denied me visitation! the report came back unfounded and they refuse to give snickerdoodle back! Been to court on and off for a month

 

[Guest]

NH, don't you think you should finally tell the truth about this? There has got to be more to the story than you tell. You are 19, little education, minimum wage job, druggie & alcoholic friends, bashed someone with a bottle, your sob story goes on and on. You go on and on about boyfriends, are in love with half the men on this board, sex & a good time are all you seem to care about. Grow up & take some responsibility for your life. Do you honestly think your daughter would be better off with you? I seriously doubt it.

 

[Angel]

Too bad you don't have the guts to say that shit with your real name, asshole.

 

[Andra_Jenny]

Ditto

Hoods and sheets again!

 

[Expertise]

With all due respect to the "apologists" above......

Are you out of your fucking minds!!!???

This, or any.....person(s) male or female, no matter how stressed and "down trodden" (boo fucking hoo) should be subject to public stoning or flaying or something similarly painfull and fatal.

I too try to find the good in people Creamylady but in this case I find your "good will and understanding" attitude both wrong and offensive. And no, I could not "snap" and hurt any child like that, certainly not my own.This is a completely reprehensible act and the punishment should fit the crime.

Lets break that many bones in her (and anyone who was complicit in it) and leave her/them for thirteen days..... before we even begin to mete out punishment.

Don't even get me started on the social workers and other public "servants" who return, or allow children to stay in these situations. They should be held as responsible as the actual perpetrator.

 

[teresafannin]

I have a hard time feeling sorry for anyone but the child in a case like Kssss read about. I was a 23 year old single mother, also living with my parents & as frustrating as it was at time, I never hurt my son. My parents would have turned me in, but I can't even imagine hurting a child. I realize that I was very lucky, my family has always stood by me. I really think that for many people, the only control they feel they have is over their children. This woman's parents should be held equally responsible, I find it very hard to believe that they didn't know what was going on. I think parenting classes are a great idea, but I wonder how many people would actually attend. What hurts me the most is that these people don't realize how lucky they are to have their children & how terribly easy it is to lose them. The baby should be placed with people who will love & take care of him. The woman should be in jail & therapy, some people can be helped, but the child should be the first priority.

 

[willywanker]

Had one here too, ksss

We just finished watching a case unfold on the evening news here of a mid 20's "father" although I hate to use that word for pieces of crap like this who with his fist, punched his 10 month old son in the head because he would stop crying. And like your case, they waited, this time 5 days til the poor guy was in a coma and never came out. A grown man punches in a baby's skull and get 25 to life????
I wish they would just let him loose and let us know when and where.

Wonder how many punches it takes to crush a man's skull? I'm not a voilent person, but when children are involved, I can loose it quick. Almost wish I hadn't read this one.