"shut up and take it, bitch"

[ownedsubgal]

those words are something i have heard from my Master on occasion, when i have weeped a little too loudly or spoke a little too much..."shut up and take it, bitch". thinking about comments, old and new, on this message board and others, about quiet, meek, passive submissives, and how almost always the comments are negative in regard to such a submissive, i began to wonder, what do most Dominants prefer? the submissive who will moan and grunt in sexual pleasure, or shriek in pain when beaten?...those who will not be still and simply let what is to be done, be done, with little or no physical or verbal response? my Master seems to be rare in that he enjoys my naturally silent, passive demeanor during use. were others to watch my Master and i together sexually, i doubt they would be able to tell whether i were loving it or simply enduring it...whether i were in a hushed ecstasy, or drug-induced numbness. i don't moan and groan, i don't shout, i don't whisper "oooh yes" and such things. i don't pant and sweat heavily, desperately arching my body to meet his. i simply take it. when being beaten, muffled sounds of pain may escape my lips, but i will not scream or shout or beg him to have mercy. i simply take it.

so my question to the Dominants here, do you prefer a very responsive submissive, or one who will simply "shut up and take it"? submissives, where would you say you fit in along this spectrum?

 

[Shadowsdream]

those words are something i have heard from my Master on occasion, when i have weeped a little too loudly or spoke a little too much..."shut up and take it, bitch". thinking about comments, old and new, on this message board and others, about quiet, meek, passive submissives, and how almost always the comments are negative in regard to such a submissive, i began to wonder, what do most Dominants prefer? the submissive who will moan and grunt in sexual pleasure, or shriek in pain when beaten?...those who will not be still and simply let what is to be done, be done, with little or no physical or verbal response? my Master seems to be rare in that he enjoys my naturally silent, passive demeanor during use. were others to watch my Master and i together sexually, i doubt they would be able to tell whether i were loving it or simply enduring it...whether i were in a hushed ecstasy, or drug-induced numbness. i don't moan and groan, i don't shout, i don't whisper "oooh yes" and such things. i don't pant and sweat heavily, desperately arching my body to meet his. i simply take it. when being beaten, muffled sounds of pain may escape my lips, but i will not scream or shout or beg him to have mercy. i simply take it.

so my question to the Dominants here, do you prefer a very responsive submissive, or one who will simply "shut up and take it"? submissives, where would you say you fit in along this spectrum? [/QUOTE

Basically I prefer the quiet submissive but I enjoy the honest sounds that cannot be held back. The whimpers and groans and screams that even a gag can't completely block.
BUT...false moans and groans...sighs and screams etc...piss Me off! Bore Me and stop all play...which then turns to discipline for dishonesty.

 

[RadicalFlower]

I perfer to be the Quiet submissive ...I am not a Screamer or a moaner ......but i will Whimper some...But not to the point where i scream in Pain...and i love to Keep myself Quiet while Being beaten...Or Raveged ..Roughly...*S*...Atleast i try to be LOL

It is a fantasy of mine..i have yet Tryed or Did it in real life...But i enjoy it over then net...

 

[NCShin]

I think it depends on my mood. More, for me though, right now with the woman I'm with, I want her to express her every feeling in any way she chooses. We are both fairly new to this and I sure don't want to push her too far too fast, as I think I could easily do if I'm not careful.

So, hearing her moan as my hand makes contact with her bare skin is good. I know it hurts my hand, so it must hurt her butt. The moan lets me know how much.

Once I am at ease with what she can and can not take, I really may want her to just "STFU" (shut the fuck up)

As for sex, I'm not sure that I'd ever want totally silent motionless sex on a regular basis. Might be fun once in a while, but not all the time.

Her movements often enhance my pleasure, her moans of pleasure highten my excitement while stroaking my ego.

I'm a talker I guess. I tend to talk a lot in bed. Always have. I've said before how shy my submissive is, and making her say all kinds of slutty things in bed is quite fun.

 

[AngelicAssassin]

Driving her to the point she can't help but scream?

Ambrosia of the Gods.

False moans, etc?

i'm with Shadowsdream, and for me, that means isolation.

 

[s'lara]

Interesting topic. i was thinking about this after reading another thread.

i think it goes without saying that the Sadist enjoys the verbal and physical signs of suffering. No, i am not referring to theatrical moans of passion or the effusive platitudes helplessly wrenched from a sub -- "Oh You are the all mighty One!" *tremendous orgasm ensues with many declarations of love*

To express feelings of suffering, in whatever manner the sub expresses such emotions, is what i believe hits the mark. Firstly, some subs are more vocal and expressive about their service when engaging in an activity which is clearly painful (physically), hurtful (emotionally), etc. This is who they are and if the Dominant recognizes these expressions as genuine reflections of how the sub is feeling, then the goal has been attained -- evidence or results of sadistic actions.

Secondly, i believe one of the definitions of suffering is passive acceptance of an action. No matter what that action may be, the sufferer accepts it without resistance. This kind of suffering has its own appeal and while it isn't as demonstrative as say my first example, there has to be some satisfaction (for a sadist) in witnessing the nearly-mute and resigned expression of a submissive as they endure what is happening.

i fell in the gradation of helpless bursts of suffering to silent emotional grappling for a way to endure more.

lara

 

[ownedsubgal]

when i say response, i am definitely not referring to those who are false about it...who fake moan and sigh, fake writhe and wriggle in pleasure, fake yelp in pain. some people are simply naturally more expressive, physically and/or verbally, when used. just as some are naturally reserved, quiet and still when used. a while back i got to thinking whether or not my Master actually liked my silence, my passiveness. so often i hear men and women alike say, "who wants someone who just lies there?"..."who wants someone who doesn't make any noise?". so i, very embarassed, asked him about it. He told me he loves how i just take it, that he can tell from my body language and my quietness that i am not consumed with thoughts of wanting to prolong the pleasure, or wanting the pain to end. i know my function, know my place, and that is all there is to it. that pleases him greatly.

but i can tell that some of the other men i have served have been bothered by this. there was the one Dominant who told me, while using me sexually, "you know, you are permitted to make sounds or speak if you need to." and the vanilla man who didn't wish to use me again because, in his words, my passiveness and silence made him feel like a rapist (apparently, a feeling he did not cherish). i am wondering if for some men (and this could apply to female Dominants as well i suppose), vanilla or Dominant, sort of an ego thing, where they want some clear indicator that they're causing someone pleasure that they just cannot contain, or likewise causing someone pain that they just cannot hold in. and when they cannot tell one way or the other, maybe that's just dissatisfying to them. who knows. i know even my Master cannot always tell when i am enjoying his sexual use of me. sometimes he will ask me later what if anything i liked physically in our recent times together, and he is nearly always surprised by my answer...saying, "wow. really?? I never would have guessed you enjoyed that!". lol...but he says this pleases him, and that is what matters.


tho lara, i don't agree that passive acceptance has to mean suffering, tho sometimes that is indeed the case. i always passively accept my Master's or anyone else's use of me, but i do not always or even nearly always, suffer.

 

[lark sparrow]

It's not necessarily a beating, where one may find those places to go to during, that will always illicit the greatest response - sometimes it's a look, gesture, touch or word that can bring the unexpected and overwhleming whimper or tremble.

I was once with a Domme I wasn't very familiar with, during a flogging, and she told me that I could moan... while part of me was debating back and forth, does that mean I should?? the greater part just decided that if it was important to her she would either tell me to directly or make me.. like breathing.

I would assume shut up and take it bitch would be a good indicator of the opposite desire. I've heard that one before too. If you're playing with opposition within control, I suppose whichever you do as a submissive could be contrary.

I have the capacity to go either way when controlled, but on my own I am generally more quiet without prompting, and as others have said, authenticity counts.

I've enjoyed when I could be taken either place - and either one, it didn't matter - could be absolutely perfect in that moment.

 

[catalina_francisco]

Have to say I am mostly with s'lara on this one. I know for us, he does not appreciate silence at all times, nor a resigned acceptance. Is why he dislikes subspace and is pleased he does not have to train me out of going there....he wants toi feel a connection and that the submissive is serving his needs, not the other way around, or feeling they are simply enduring. For him that is a turn off and the quickest way to end any interaction.

He likes he can use me in whatever way at times and I will simply submit obediently, but most times he likes to know there is a response which matches his in intensity, a challenge, and an audible sign he has pushed me past the comfort zone if that is what he so desires.... being a sadist, it usually is....or given me sexual pleasure like no other if that is his mood. He likes the complimentary energy exchange.

He doesn't tolerate fakeness of sound or gesture to impress or otherwise, nor would I insult his intelligence by trying to pull it off. Nor is it his desire to have me fight back....there is a delicate balance which transcends the passivity zone, but falls short of resistance. Despite all this, our play is often mostly silent through necessity, but there are definite signs of response....frustratingly, even on those rare occasions when I disobediently try to withhold, my body betrays me. Is sheer bliss when we have a weekend away, or go for a drive to the forest, and he commands me to scream and cry out loud all I want...he knows I hold back as long as I can but once the first sounds begin, his spirit for sadistic pleasure begins to feed with renewed energy.

Catalina

 

[Netzach]

I don't really care what someone's response is to being used, as long as it's authentic. I've used the silent and beatific, the silent and stoic, the loud and raucous, the loud and animalistic, it's all good.

I prefer "shut up, bitch" by itself to "shut up and take it" or anything contextual. I think it's a phrase best used when least expected, actually.

 

[sigsauerprinces]

guess we are the exception to the rule, because i am very vocal... (tho i never fake it-i dont get what the point of faking it would be?)....im just very responsive, always have been. i moan, i gasp, i shriek with fear, whimper in pain, scream in extasy...say "i love you so fucking much"...all of the above, and he likes it. he says he likes to hear my screams, sighs, and moans-theyre music to his ears. he likes to know that he is hurting me, or making me feel good (often both at the same time). i think id be really unhappy with a dominant who didnt want me to communicate how i was feelingn during sex, or a scene or whatever. luckily i dont have t oworry about that, as we're a perfect match

that said, "shut up bitch" has been said to me once in a while..but it is not a common occurance. but then, when he says it, it turns me on...although to be honest there isnt much that he does that DOESNT turn me on..

 

[catalina_francisco]

that said, "shut up bitch" has been said to me once in a while..but it is not a common occurance. but then, when he says it, it turns me on...although to be honest there isnt much that he does that DOESNT turn me on..

LOL, and IMHO it is not the words themselves as much as the meaning behind them which counts and sends the thrill. So many ways to express it with so many desired intentions, and so delicious when Master knows the desired intention is going to be so difficult, perhaps impossible to fulfil!! Seems most times he strives to make sure I am unable to keep that quiet response, as not only does he know how hard it is to achieve, but he once again proves who is wielding the power and control in all that happens between us....and the communication how ever unintelligible and/or gutteral is always understood and appreciated by both of us.

Catalina

 

[JoseIsWild]

I like her to be quiet and still. No talking or loud noises, however, I do like to hear some moaning and breathing.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Sometimes I think the owned sub gal is evesdropping on my internal dialogue.

"shut up and take it, bitch"...one of my favorite phrases.

It's sexy!

 

[rosco rathbone]

and the vanilla man who didn't wish to use me again because, in his words, my passiveness and silence made him feel like a rapist (apparently, a feeling he did not cherish).

pistol hot

*dances around blowing on burnt fingertip and shakeing it*


[james brown skreech]yeowch![/skreech]

 

[ownedsubgal]

while i see here for some it is the "shut up" that speaks to them...for me it is more the "take it" that presses my buttons...often my Master tells me this, in one form or another...an impatient, "be still, bitch"...a tender, even loving, as he kisses my tears, "awww..Daddy knows, Daddy knows it hurts..but it just has to be sweetie...take it"....the knowledge that i must always endure it, always bear it, always deal with it, always "take it"...because that is my place and purpose. it very much helps keep me centered and focused.

rosco, i always knew you had the heart of a DOM...(Dirty Old Man) lol

 

[mellian]

not sure what i would do in such acts, but i do know i don't do things without a valid reason thought.

-mellian

 

[s'lara]

<snip>tho lara, i don't agree that passive acceptance has to mean suffering, tho sometimes that is indeed the case. i always passively accept my Master's or anyone else's use of me, but i do not always or even nearly always, suffer. <snip>

No, passive acceptance does not encompass the full definition of suffering, however, it is one of its definitions as i stated above -- see below:

Originally posted by s'lara Secondly, i believe one of the definitions of suffering is passive acceptance of an action. [/I]

Passivity as a reaction to an action is arguably the definition of acceptance or suffering. The emotions felt during the passivity is what makes the defining difference: Ex. "lara stood mute and passive as she was physically inspected by Master and His cohorts, prior to their use of her body." vs. "lara passively took a caning from each of the Men despite the enormity of the pain."

So sure, passiveness does not necessarily mean suffering, but as i said in my previous post, ONE of the definitions of suffering is passively accepting an action by another. To be passive does not necessarily equate to suffering, but it can as you've agreed.

lara

 

[Blackethorne]

so my question to the Dominants here, do you prefer a very responsive submissive, or one who will simply "shut up and take it"? submissives, where would you say you fit in along this spectrum?

As a newer dominant dealing with a newer submissive I have discovered recently that I take entirely too much guff from my slave. Therefore, I have found myself telling her to SU&TI a little more often. I am not really looking for her to be absolutely silent and limp, I just want her to cease speaking (she has a tendency to try to excuse or complain her way out of things) and restrict herself to moans/gasps/squeals etc.

 

[lark sparrow]

They cut down social security, cut back our freedom of speech, and give us a Martha Stewart indictment and Gay Marriage for headlines???

Yeah, shame on those social security paying homosexuals who prompt the news headlines, and perhaps cut back freedom of speech! All control freak women should be imprisoned without notice! We do NOT live in a culture of FEAR!

 

[rosco rathbone]

They cut down social security, cut back our freedom of speech, and give us a Martha Stewart indictment and Gay Marriage for headlines???

Yeah, shame on those social security paying homosexuals who prompt the news headlines, and perhaps cut back freedom of speech! All control freak women should be imprisoned without notice! We do NOT live in a culture of FEAR!

shut up and take it.

 

[slaveskinky]

Fake it? Not a chance with my Biker.

Biker loves the sounds, whimpers , gutteral noises, screaming and groans. Not once has He used a gag to muffle those beautiful sounds He enjoys. When first meeting me i was totally unresponsive.. He wanted to bring my emotions, reactions into play. So He began teaching me to release them, in word or by sound. He felt as i began to respond, He was bringing me to life. It's a wonder the cops have not been called to our home for the noise. *G* i couldn't be quiet now if someone held a gun to my head. *L*

slave

New story posted.
A Soul's Journey

http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=133076:rose:

 

[RadicalFlower]

Interisting^^^

Yeah faking i dont do either...but i like to be silent If he wants me to make sounds i surly will with help But ..I am a quiet One...*S*..

i have never been really loud never had the satisfcation i wanted in order to know if i did or not i think...but non the less..Thus far SHHHHH!!!...Giggles..

 

[catalina_francisco]

The silence no matter what is happening idea brought back memories for me of giving birth with my second child. Due to incompetence on the part of the night matron (which she was disciplined for later), by the time my doctor arrived it was too late for any anesthetic though it was needed. During the final stages of a very difficult and traumatic birth I let out a couple of groans between throwing up to which the doctor impatiently told me I would do better to conserve the groaning energy for giving birth.

Normally I was a quiet, soft spoken, never swearing type in those days, but I can honestly say I let him know what I thought of his suggestion and inference it was an unnecessary sound to make...and in true stereotypical male ego, he felt he knew first hand from delivering babies for years, just how it felt for a woman as he put it. Pleeeease!!

Point is IMHO, no matter how embarrassed, how obedient, how submissive, how desirous to be pleasing, there are just some moments when the pain you receive is going to make total silence an impossibility.

Catalina

 

[RadicalFlower]

well yeah that is what i meant by with help *W*