Should England pay retribution to American citizens for past crimes?

Should England pay?

  • Yes, get your checkbook out PP Man

    Votes: 5 26.3%
  • No, they have suffered enough

    Votes: 2 10.5%
  • Maybe, but we'll let them slide

    Votes: 1 5.3%
  • Hell NO you bloody Yank

    Votes: 5 26.3%
  • No, but an apology would be nice

    Votes: 2 10.5%
  • Who cares? kicking their arse was enough

    Votes: 4 21.1%

  • Total voters
    19

WriterDom

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The Charges:


The history of the present King of Great Britain [George III] is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained, and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the meantime exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies, without the consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases of the benefits of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to complete the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms. Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
 
....roflmao

America wouldn't have a penny in the bank if every country followed this train of thought to its natural conclusion
 
What's in the past...

should stay in the past. The US and Great Britain are
allies now......why should Britain have to pay us back
for "crimes" committed back in the day? Sure, it was a
dark time in our history, but the US did win the Revolutionary
War, and that's that.

tigerjen
 
p_p_ pay up! No more Pub money from you!

Let's skip ahead to the part about suppression of American Sailors. Reparations to the families! Reparations for all the boys who saved England's cookies so that thier children, and grandchildren, and great-grandchildren should listen to thier endless whining about the incessant United States warmongering.
 
Oh please do go ahead and sue. As co-petitioners please add the Scots, Welsh and Irish!


PS. Call me an ambulance I fell off my chair laughing at this one.

:D :D :D :D :D :devil:
 
The English deny responsibility. George III was mad and German. He was also acting in violation of British law as it stood at that time.
 
Yes, they should.
But only in gold.
None of that fake Euro crap..........


;)
 
If Jefferson and Adams didn't send England a bill, I'm not going to either.

Besides, we've yet to send them a Royalty check for the language. Can we call it even?
 
As MunchinMark said you cannot hold us resposible he was mad and he was German.
But doesn't that list remind you of something hmmmmm could it be yes thats it the policies of the present Bush administration, Now at least Ol' George Hanover had the excuse that he was barmy :p
 
Should not the payment be due to the real Americans, the Comanche, Sioux, Iroquois etc, not the rag-tag bunch of exiled Europeans who fell out with Mad George?
Stirring the pot even more...
Cheers
 
On the whole the English have had good relations with the Natives of the New World. Better than our successors at any rate.
 
I have no idea how that happened.

Damn thing's got a mind of it's own.:eek:
 
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