She-male incest idea....

SEVERUSMAX

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...here it's in a nutshell. Two brothers, one older, one younger. The younger is gay and hiding his feminine nature behind the usual homophobic bravado for a long time. The older is basically pure hetero, so he doesn't have a thing for younger brother...yet...they get along as brothers normally do...fighting...standing up for each other...picking on each other. They grow up in an almost all-male environment, so part of the big brother wishes that he had a sister, but he accepts that it won't be.

Then one day, the younger brother realizes that he is not only gay, but essentially a woman at heart. That is, he is not so much a gay man (that takes less time to figure out than the new, shocking part) but a straight woman deep down in his psyche. He begins to go through with hormones, breast implants...etc. His boyfriend, not wanting to be with a woman, dumps him, which leaves him distraught over the price of being himself (herself, actually).

His brother lets him move in (being recently widowed). He could use the help and knows that his brother/sister needs the company. He shows remarkable understanding after a bit of adjustment (awkward, having to relate to your younger brother as one would to one's sister, especially when one hasn't had sisters his whole life). Then he starts to find his new sister attractive. Between that and old brotherly feelings, he is soon drifting toward incestuous desires.

Unknown to him, his new sister feels the same way over time. She starts to view him in a sexual light, especially after realizing how lonely and horny the guy is. And realizes that she has a chance, now that she is becoming a woman. The trouble is that they can't work past the fact that "sister" still has a dick and balls. Nor can she afford the final surgery at the moment, and big brother has put a stop to her turning tricks to afford it. He's afraid of her catching an STD or AIDS. She tries stripping, but even so, she has fears that add to financial issues and obligations to delay that last change.

Eventually, they realize how they feel about each other, and are relieved at least that they can't have kids together, since they still fear the usual claims about incest and deformity. Even so, they have to work around the fact that big brother is afraid that he might get penetrated with his sister's rather prominent cock. By now, the sister is making enough for some changes, but still dreads the last bit: removal of her male genitals. She keeps delaying for one reason or another, almost as if holding onto the last part of her previous identity, afraid to lose herself completely. And she's frankly unsure of vaginal sex itself. She has gotten used to anal and oral sex and is comfortable with them. Yet she fears that unless she does this, she won't be accepted as a true woman. So it's a dilemma for her.

She takes a major plunge, however, to reassure her brother, a move that has her closer to becoming an anatomical woman at last. She has herself chemically castrated, making herself impotent. That way, at least, it will be less of a drastic step when she finally takes the brave step of giving up her cock altogether. It is now simply a urinating device.

After that happens, brother finally agrees to consummate his relationship with his sister. He gets to enjoy oral and anal sex a great deal and fears to give them up when his sister becomes a complete woman, but he also misses pussy. That's when little sister gets brave and has her new vagina created in place of her old penis.

Parents are long dead, but cousins still have a hard time with the idea of incest, so they make a deal...they will not tell anyone who she is, since she wouldn't be recognized in her female form.

As you can tell, this is more of a love story, rather than my more usual fuckfest type of stories. It's a double taboo, incest and gay sex, with the difference that one of the men is not into men, so he has to take a chance and accept his new lover/sister as a woman, even when she's not legally and chromosomally one.

I'm not sure about the swinging thing or not. I wouldn't rule it out in this case (unlike with some characters, who are simply adamant about not doing it), but I wouldn't commit to it, either. It's rather unconventional anyway, I think, no matter whether they share or not. It's more of a shock to the system kind of romance. And intended to be creative on how to deal with their unique problems.

I also had ideas on interracial incest, between a white man and his black, Asian, or Hispanic sister (or even Native American)....the thing being that he already has a thing for interracial anyway, but she has to be persuaded into it.
 
SEVERUSMAX said:
...here it's in a nutshell. Two brothers, one older, one younger. The younger is gay and hiding his feminine nature behind the usual homophobic bravado for a long time. The older is basically pure hetero, so he doesn't have a thing for younger brother...yet...they get along as brothers normally do...fighting...standing up for each other...picking on each other. They grow up in an almost all-male environment, so part of the big brother wishes that he had a sister, but he accepts that it won't be.

Then one day, the younger brother realizes that he is not only gay, but essentially a woman at heart. That is, he is not so much a gay man (that takes less time to figure out than the new, shocking part) but a straight woman deep down in his psyche. He begins to go through with hormones, breast implants...etc. His boyfriend, not wanting to be with a woman, dumps him, which leaves him distraught over the price of being himself (herself, actually).

His brother lets him move in (being recently widowed). He could use the help and knows that his brother/sister needs the company. He shows remarkable understanding after a bit of adjustment (awkward, having to relate to your younger brother as one would to one's sister, especially when one hasn't had sisters his whole life). Then he starts to find his new sister attractive. Between that and old brotherly feelings, he is soon drifting toward incestuous desires.

Unknown to him, his new sister feels the same way over time. She starts to view him in a sexual light, especially after realizing how lonely and horny the guy is. And realizes that she has a chance, now that she is becoming a woman. The trouble is that they can't work past the fact that "sister" still has a dick and balls. Nor can she afford the final surgery at the moment, and big brother has put a stop to her turning tricks to afford it. He's afraid of her catching an STD or AIDS. She tries stripping, but even so, she has fears that add to financial issues and obligations to delay that last change.

Eventually, they realize how they feel about each other, and are relieved at least that they can't have kids together, since they still fear the usual claims about incest and deformity. Even so, they have to work around the fact that big brother is afraid that he might get penetrated with his sister's rather prominent cock. By now, the sister is making enough for some changes, but still dreads the last bit: removal of her male genitals. She keeps delaying for one reason or another, almost as if holding onto the last part of her previous identity, afraid to lose herself completely. And she's frankly unsure of vaginal sex itself. She has gotten used to anal and oral sex and is comfortable with them. Yet she fears that unless she does this, she won't be accepted as a true woman. So it's a dilemma for her.

She takes a major plunge, however, to reassure her brother, a move that has her closer to becoming an anatomical woman at last. She has herself chemically castrated, making herself impotent. That way, at least, it will be less of a drastic step when she finally takes the brave step of giving up her cock altogether. It is now simply a urinating device.

After that happens, brother finally agrees to consummate his relationship with his sister. He gets to enjoy oral and anal sex a great deal and fears to give them up when his sister becomes a complete woman, but he also misses pussy. That's when little sister gets brave and has her new vagina created in place of her old penis.

Parents are long dead, but cousins still have a hard time with the idea of incest, so they make a deal...they will not tell anyone who she is, since she wouldn't be recognized in her female form.

As you can tell, this is more of a love story, rather than my more usual fuckfest type of stories. It's a double taboo, incest and gay sex, with the difference that one of the men is not into men, so he has to take a chance and accept his new lover/sister as a woman, even when she's not legally and chromosomally one.

I'm not sure about the swinging thing or not. I wouldn't rule it out in this case (unlike with some characters, who are simply adamant about not doing it), but I wouldn't commit to it, either. It's rather unconventional anyway, I think, no matter whether they share or not. It's more of a shock to the system kind of romance. And intended to be creative on how to deal with their unique problems.

I also had ideas on interracial incest, between a white man and his black, Asian, or Hispanic sister (or even Native American)....the thing being that he already has a thing for interracial anyway, but she has to be persuaded into it.
its not gay sex. its more of heterosex honestly but it sounds like you've got a good idea.
 
looking forward to reading it. If you need a trans point of view on things just ask me, though i'm not attracted to men i can still kinda see through the eyes of a woman or trans that does.
 
Tymeless said:
looking forward to reading it. If you need a trans point of view on things just ask me, though i'm not attracted to men i can still kinda see through the eyes of a woman or trans that does.

Thanks. I take that you consider yourself a lesbian? Always a nice source of information about women...or in this case, women trapped in men's bodies who wish to shed that facade and become obvious women. :cool:
 
SEVERUSMAX said:
Thanks. I take that you consider yourself a lesbian? Always a nice source of information about women...or in this case, women trapped in men's bodies who wish to shed that facade and become obvious women. :cool:
yes i identify as lesbian though to the normal person i appear to be a straight male until i can start my transition.
 
Tymeless said:
yes i identify as lesbian though to the normal person i appear to be a straight male until i can start my transition.

Very intriguing. Tell me, however....how long do most normally take to actually have the final operation?
 
SEVERUSMAX said:
Very intriguing. Tell me, however....how long do most normally take to actually have the final operation?

well transition from start to finish if persued vigoriously takes approximately 5 years. Money is an issue though. The SRS surgery is quite expensive and you have to live as a woman for a year before you can have the surgery. Once they have the surgery though most states will allow you to legally change your sex to female including on your birth certificate. So it can happen as early as a year into transition but usually most wait till the 2nd or 3rd years to do it.

just one thing i know you didn't mean the term she-male in an offensive manner. but we find the term highly offensive, its a porn term and a porn term only. I'm not speaking for all trans but the vast majority that i know.

and the girl in your avatar is gorgeous, and i normally don't like blondes!
 
Tymeless said:
well transition from start to finish if persued vigoriously takes approximately 5 years. Money is an issue though. The SRS surgery is quite expensive and you have to live as a woman for a year before you can have the surgery. Once they have the surgery though most states will allow you to legally change your sex to female including on your birth certificate. So it can happen as early as a year into transition but usually most wait till the 2nd or 3rd years to do it.

just one thing i know you didn't mean the term she-male in an offensive manner. but we find the term highly offensive, its a porn term and a porn term only. I'm not speaking for all trans but the vast majority that i know.

I will bear that in mind. I had no idea that it was viewed as offensive. I'm just a regular ol' bisexual fellow. Well, thank you for that information. That's very helpful.

My apologies for any unintended offense......one learns something new every day. Is it the suggestion that they're not entirely female that's offensive about it?
 
Tymeless said:
well transition from start to finish if persued vigoriously takes approximately 5 years. Money is an issue though. The SRS surgery is quite expensive and you have to live as a woman for a year before you can have the surgery. Once they have the surgery though most states will allow you to legally change your sex to female including on your birth certificate. So it can happen as early as a year into transition but usually most wait till the 2nd or 3rd years to do it.

just one thing i know you didn't mean the term she-male in an offensive manner. but we find the term highly offensive, its a porn term and a porn term only. I'm not speaking for all trans but the vast majority that i know.

and the girl in your avatar is gorgeous, and i normally don't like blondes!

Thank you. I tend to go for BDSM-themed AVs, hence this one. :devil:
 
SEVERUSMAX said:
I will bear that in mind. I had no idea that it was viewed as offensive. I'm just a regular ol' bisexual fellow. Well, thank you for that information. That's very helpful.

My apologies for any unintended offense......one learns something new every day. Is it the suggestion that they're not entirely female that's offensive about it?


we don't mind transexual transgendered male to female etc but the term she-male emphasizes the male part. we know we aren't natural born females but we are trying to leave the male part behind.
 
Tymeless said:
we don't mind transexual transgendered male to female etc but the term she-male emphasizes the male part. we know we aren't natural born females but we are trying to leave the male part behind.

I guess that makes some sense. If you feel that you're a woman deep inside, and then someone is reminding people that you're biologically male....it could be touchy.
 
SEVERUSMAX said:
I guess that makes some sense. If you feel that you're a woman deep inside, and then someone is reminding people that you're biologically male....it could be touchy.


like male to female transexual doesn't bother us because it emphasizes the female. really we just prefer to be called our chosen gender but we also acknowledge thats hard for some people to accept.
 
Tymeless said:
like male to female transexual doesn't bother us because it emphasizes the female. really we just prefer to be called our chosen gender but we also acknowledge thats hard for some people to accept.

Sadly true.
 
SEVERUSMAX said:
Sadly true.


well glad to see your support for my kind. I'm looking forward to reading the story when its done and i'll gladly help you with whatever i can.
 
Tymeless said:
well glad to see your support for my kind. I'm looking forward to reading the story when its done and i'll gladly help you with whatever i can.

Thank you, and, yes, I do support it. Not just for aesthetic reasons (although there is something lovely about many new women- sound like a good term?), but because I think that individuality is that important...people should be allowed to be themselves, unless that involves harming innocents, which this doesn't.

I hope that it turns out well...for both my story and your transition to physical womanhood (I say physical because your essence is apparently already female).
 
SEVERUSMAX said:
Thank you, and, yes, I do support it. Not just for aesthetic reasons (although there is something lovely about many new women- sound like a good term?), but because I think that individuality is that important...people should be allowed to be themselves, unless that involves harming innocents, which this doesn't.

I hope that it turns out well...for both my story and your transition to physical womanhood (I say physical because your essence is apparently already female).


thanks!!!!!!
 
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