Sex scenes

gauchecritic

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For this years Valentine's Day Contest. I attempted to write a sex scene that didn't include sex. I've asked a few friends if it worked and their response was quite favourable.

Now I'd like to ask for other's opinions. The scene in question is below, what I'd like to know is: Did it work?

Before they had taken a seat in the café across the road a purring voice asked from clouds of steam behind a formica work top; “And what is it to be this morning my little Carlito?”

Venita squinted, as she took a rattan chair behind a plastic covered table, to see the outline of someone busy with an expresso machine from the 50’s. “Oh my!”

Carl stopped mid-way to the serving counter and glanced back enquiringly.

“This chair! It’s… very comfortable. I can’t believe it.” She wiggled in delight at the touch of the natural fibre.

Carl smiled and turned back to the steam wreathed voice, engaging in unsophisticated backchat, and heavily laced flirtation. “Just look at what this place is doing to your hair.” He spoke loudly so that Venita heard every syllable, painting a smile from eyes to lips. Holding a lock of the steamed hair in one hand, Carl stroked delicate fingers along the length, making the owner thrill with the physicality. With evident shock Carl cried “Grey. You’re going grey. Carmencita don’t be grey. Don’t get old on me.”

With loud laughter, the woman behind the counter pulled her head back and at the same time Carl away. Smiling hugely, he made his way to the opposite side of the table from Venita. “Tea and toast? Are you sure?” She nodded. His thighs resting on the edge of the chair, Carl brought his hand towards Venita’s hair, causing her to pull back quickly from the impromptu contact.

“I know you don’t I?” He prompted. Venita, pulling on the ends of her hair, in order to maintain a curtain of personal space, mutely shook her head in denial. “I know your face from somewhere.”

“I don’t think so.” Venita demurred. I’ve only just moved here.

“Must be me then dear. Never mind. Now,” he held her gaze “breakfast.”

Carl sat languidly in his seat, pensive and amused, letting his eyes flicker over Venita’s face, trying to put it in context of a place. For her part, Venita, gave profile; full and half, tilting her head this way and that and even turning around in her seat so that the scrutiny could be whole and entire. She challenged his memory.

“Still just tea and toast then?”

Venita was flustered at this return to such a seemingly mundane topic, when he should have been giving her ‘the third degree’ on where their respective paths had crossed previously. “Yes.” She blurted. “Tea and toast. What’s wrong with tea and toast?”

“Of themselves dear heart, nothing. But as breakfast? Oh no, no, no. Breakfast is the largest and most satisfying pleasure of the day.” The voice from the steam cut across the room and Carl’s words.

“Tea and toast for your lady Carlito.”

“Mui bien.” Carl kissed across the counter as payment and returned, hands filled with browned bread and a mug of hotness. “Here you are Tea-and-toast.” Naming Venita for her choice of diet.

“What do you mean ‘largest and most satisfying pleasure’?” Venita demanded immediately, curiosity spurring her onward.

“If you will give me a few moments” began Carl, “I shall demonstrate.” Whereupon he reached across to Venita’s plate and plucked up a piece of dry toast, between long and manicured fingers. “Poke your tongue out for me Tea-and-toast.” Venita, unsure and quite delighted, poked out the tip of her tongue between white teeth and pink/brown lips. “Oh my.” With feigned shock, “I don’t think I’ve ever seen a tongue so pink. More girl, I need to see it all.” Glancing around with vague discomfort and mild embarrassment, Venita stuck out the length of her tongue, and then withdrew it just as quickly when Carl almost screeched: “Oh my god.”

“What? What’s wrong?” Shrieked Venita behind horrified butterfly hands.

“Oh my god. What wouldn’t I give to have a tongue like that? Show me again. Come on Tea-and-toast, show me.”

“What’s wrong with it?” demanded Venita, then stuck out her tongue for inspection once more.

“Wrong? There’s nothing wrong dear heart. It’s exquisite. I’ve never seen a tongue like it. And let me tell you, I’ve seen plenty of tongue in my time.”

Venita giggled at this last, the depth of colour darkening her complexion, her embarrassment, evaporating along with the steam from her tea.

“Ok. Now we’ve got the silliness out of the way, we’ll begin. Tongue?”

Venita obliged and Carl, quite deliberately, started to rasp the piece of dry toast across her tongue and upper lip. “That’s your tea and toast, Tea-and-toast. Arid, and nasty. Nothing to taste, nothing to savour. Now this,” he announced, as the steam wraith placed a ‘Full English’ on the table along with a fleeting pressure of lips to his forehead, “this, is breakfast.”

Venita had witnessed ‘full English’ many times, but this halted her breath. This was FULL English. A red and orange ocean of beans with a shoal of plump tomatoes surrounded an island of white and yellow eggs; thoroughly cooked rashers of pink and brown with crozzled edging lay alongside deeply tanned torpedoes of sausage. A wreckage of sliced mushrooms littered the edges of the breakfast seascape and there, as a homage to food, stood the blood and fat monuments of black pudding.

Unwanted and unwelcome, saliva flooded Venita’s palate. Her slightly parted lips slipped liquid want down the side of her sculpted chin. “Can I take it that you have no objections to meat then, Tea-and-toast?”

“Have a sip of water,” Carl instructed, “then close your eyes, open your mouth, and lay out your delicious tongue.” Never once taking his eyes from her face, Carl, by touch alone, took pieces and parts of the food from his plate to give sweet, salt and sour delight to Venita.

Venita, self-blind, sat waiting, expectantly and with a certain anticipation.

Eyes from the steam took in the whole episode as Carl tenderly led Venita’s senses on a gourmet path of discovery. He dripped golden egg-yolk to the left of her extended tongue, which solidified where it fell and Venita tasted yellow. “Mmm” she crooned with concentration expanded taste momentarily defeating her senses.

“Don’t swallow. Yet.”

He lightly touched a finger-torn tomato to the right of her tongue and Venita felt quick burning fruit making her flick her tongue back between her lips and gasping “Oh”, then segued into a small moan as the tang vied with the taste of egg yolk. A sliver of mushroom was placed centrally and meltingly, tantalisingly, gave up its flavour to all sides. A wordless exclamation escaped her lips.

Venita, with no small reluctance, felt herself being carried along with the taste and soon enough, the textures of this unusual adventure.

Carl leered his enjoyment, knowing where and how he would lead his Tea-and-toast he laid open the skin of the pork meat and carefully held a small piece above Venita’s tongue, encouraging her to breath deeply, to take in the taste and smell. She inhaled and beneath her closed lids, her eyes rolled up and her jaw dropped at the pure pleasure of feeling without a touch and visualising without sight that perfume of spice and meat.

With his fingers, Carl delicately denuded the bacon on his plate of its crisped rind and placed a bare inch of it along Venita’s back teeth. “Slowly… Chew.”

She gasped in surprise. Her teeth ground easily across the hardandsoft texture, at once tearing, and sinking into, the fat. A fry-sharpened spike barbed Venita’s tongue spurring her to clamp teeth and bite down hard to savour the small pain as a compliment to the flavours flooding her senses.

Venita felt cold smoothness against her lower lip as Carl dominated her with the command “Open. Sip.” Flooding her tongue and teeth with clean water, he noted a furrowing of her brow. A thought. A query. A worry?

“Oh my god. I don’t know the ‘stop’ word” thought Venita as she began to struggle against this physical onslaught of her taste buds, but never even peeping, not once, trusting this just-met stranger completely.

“Oh Tea-and-toast. How could I hurt you? Don’t you worry for a second dear heart, far from harm; I’m going to delight you. The best is yet to come.” He dropped his voice to a whisper as he leant forward. “Be ready for ecstasy.”

Carl waited. Venita waited. Taking wicked advantage of her closed eyes he tilted his head to the side peering closely between her veil of hair and her brown jaw and witnessed the evidence he knew would be there. With the only grease-free finger he had, he gently touched the almost invisible spot at the top of Venita’s nose, between her eyebrows, making her flinch ever-so slightly, and felt the slightly drier patch of skin where perhaps spirit gum had been used too frequently. He smiled.

“Roll your tongue.”

Venita knew the taste of beans and of tomatoes, but this river of delight coursing down the channel of her tongue was a totally new experience. Her back arched and she was shocked to find that this caused her suddenly erect nipples to graze the folds of her silk shirt making her immediately self-conscious as she brought her shoulders forward to shrink from the feather touch. She swallowed. Carl delighted in his prediction of her reaction and visibly struggled with his need to administer the coup-de-monde.

Venita was lost in a miasma of original, sometimes frightening sensations taking her from surprise to delight and a myriad of places in between.

Carl bade her “Show me your beautiful tongue one last time Tea-and-toast, after this, you can open your eyes at any time. Tongue”

Anticipation, apprehension and a small niggle of fear swept through Venita. She new what was to come, what was left to have, what it would do to her and how disappointed she knew she would feel. The reality astounded her.

He laid a piece of the last part of his… their, breakfast on her flattened tongue and instructed her how to consume it. “No teeth. Just roll it around in your mouth with your beautiful tongue. Crush it to the roof of your mouth. Work it backwards to your throat. Caress it. Swallow when you must, but not too soon.”

“Oh my god.” Venita fought the impulse to open her eyes, to see what it was that Carl had been hiding. This wasn’t on the plate. This felt like… She dare not even think it but now she had the image and it wouldn’t leave. The familiar darkening of her cheekbones and across her nose told Carl she had the image he wanted her to have and if his timing was right, then her eyes would fly open with the fear of unspoken knowledge, that she would never tell and he could never guess.

That particular taste had been there all along, from seconds after she began to crush the black pudding to her upper palate. This taste was so familiar that it didn’t register for quite some time. This taste shouldn’t be now. This taste, to accompany the image, should have been slightly salty. This taste was a monthly taste. And this taste was the one that dampened Venita’s panties.

She swallowed.

Her eyes flew open and what she saw was Carl with a wide smile on his face, her flickering eyes caught the enraptured gaze from the steam and finally the last piece of delight held gingerly in Carl’s fingers. Venita didn’t draw blood, but she did bite hard enough around the black pudding, enveloping it and held Carl’s fingers between her teeth, in payment for rapture, as her stomach muscles clenched and relaxed in waves, making her small body relax and tense in consensual sympathy. The natural fibres of the chair too, seemed to move of their own accord, massaging where they touched and against all propriety, stroked, smoothed and lifted Venita to a never-before (or since) experienced height of sensual pleasure.

Carl fell silent and smiling broadly all the time, continued to eat the remains of his breakfast, glancing often at Venita’s face to watch for the inevitable downward, sad, spiral to the here-and-now.

As she sipped her fresh mug of tea, provided silently and with what appeared to be thanks by the steam wraith, Venita smiled and drew a breath of gratitude, but before she could speak, Carl had placed his finger on her lips, to gain her silence.

“There are two things you should know Tea-and-toast, one is, that will probably never work again. It’s a one shot thing, in my experience. Sad, frustrating, but true. Two. Abigail must like you very much. There’s only a handful of people at the office who she has asked me to ‘breakfast’. I think you’ll enjoy working with us.”
 
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Gauchecritic,

Not sure if it's because we came in half-way through the story, but the opening to the scene is VERY confusing. I had to read it a few times before I thought I'd figured out who was who and what was happening.

e.g.
Carl smiled and turned back to the steam wreathed voice, engaging in unsophisticated backchat, and heavily laced flirtation. “Just look at what this place is doing to your hair.” He spoke loudly so that Venita heard every syllable, painting a smile from eyes to lips. Holding a lock of the steamed hair in one hand, Carl stroked delicate fingers along the length, making the owner thrill with the physicality. With evident shock Carl cried “Grey. You’re going grey. Carmencita don’t be grey. Don’t get old on me.”

Is their some past history between these characters? What was flirty about asking what he wanted for breakfast? Why did he suddenly feel the hair of a woman working behind the counter? It all just seemed a bit odd on reading it.

I'm afraid the orgasmic English Breakfast thing didn't work for me either. As a build up to something else, then maybe, but as a stand alone sexless sex scene, it didn't do anything for me.

e.g.
Carl waited. Venita waited. Taking wicked advantage of her closed eyes he tilted his head to the side peering closely between her veil of hair and her brown jaw and witnessed the evidence he knew would be there. With the only grease-free finger he had, he gently touched the almost invisible spot at the top of Venita’s nose, between her eyebrows, making her flinch ever-so slightly, and felt the slightly drier patch of skin where perhaps spirit gum had been used too frequently. He smiled.

“Roll your tongue.”

Venita knew the taste of beans and of tomatoes, but this river of delight coursing down the channel of her tongue was a totally new experience. Her back arched and she was shocked to find that this caused her suddenly erect nipples to graze the folds of her silk shirt making her immediately self-conscious as she brought her shoulders forward to shrink from the feather touch. She swallowed. Carl delighted in his prediction of her reaction and visibly struggled with his need to administer the coup-de-monde.

IMHO, phrases like grease free finger and slightly drier patch of skin along with the use of spirit gum just aren't sexy. As for this strange gentle touch and a river of beans and tomatoes casuing nipple errection, it just seems very implausible.

Sorry if that wasn't what you wanted to read, just my opinion. Good luck.
 
Eyup Amsterdam,

Thanks.

Surprisingly maybe, it's exactly what I wanted to read. Someone who could tell me that it wasn't what I thought it was, and why. You're not the only one who didn't see it by the way, the story has a score of 1.25 so far and if it rises above that I'd be very surprised.

To answer some of your questions: There is past history between those two but I thought I'd implied that in the way I wrote it, I obviously didn't.

I think the confusion was because the scene was halfway through the story.

The grease free finger and spirit gum and gentle touch were part of someone else's identity and not exactly scene enhancing or sexy without the proper context.

Looks like you answered my question completely and thankfully, with honesty.

So it seems I can't write sexless sex. Next question for me to discover; can anyone?

Sheffield eh? Do you know my wife's friend's mother?

Gauche
 
I don't know if that works as sex, but that's some fucking great writing! For capturing the pure sensuality of food, that is some of the best stuff I believe I've ever read anywhere. GC, I'm astonished! I didn't know you could write like this. And I don't even like black pudding.

Really, I'm most impressed. Not only the precision of the descriptions, but the lyricism of the prose. A masterful job, and really, this is just beans and bacon and eggs, right? The "sharp spike of the bacon". That's fucking perfect!

I'll admit that I was confused as to who was who at the start, but obviously this is lifted out of context. There are also some places where I think you sem to be getting a bit too clever, but I think this comes from the frustration of not knowing exactly what is what at the start. I still don;t know if they knew each other or not when they entered the cafe, but, like I say, that's a context thing.

How come you didn't write this good for the Xmas contest? And what story is this from?

---dr.M.
 
What can I say.

Thanks Mab. Really.

Why haven't I written like this before? Because I've had a hell of a lot of support and encouragement from some very good friends to actually do it and finally don't give much of a toss about scores, just the writing.

The story is Abigail Slaughter and has 2.55 for a score from 11 votes. (not that I care, honest)

You're right about seeming to be too clever, it's just that I have an aversion to plain speaking. Why use one syllable when you can use three? Usually I can spot where it seems contrived or arty but not every time. I'd really like to know which bits.

Does this explain my own high opinion of myself?

Gauche
 
dr_mabeuse said:
I don't know if that works as sex, but that's some fucking great writing! For capturing the pure sensuality of food, that is some of the best stuff I believe I've ever read anywhere. GC, I'm astonished! I didn't know you could write like this. And I don't even like black pudding.

Really, I'm most impressed. Not only the precision of the descriptions, but the lyricism of the prose. A masterful job, and really, this is just beans and bacon and eggs, right? The "sharp spike of the bacon". That's fucking perfect!
Just want to repeat what Mab. says so well and underscore it with my passion about the whole story. For others who may not go there, and so Gauche can better know why he should think so higly of himself (at least his way with English) here's the PC I left (nearly twice):

"Hey, Gauche, let’s see what the word limit is on these PCs. I’m going to presume (hope) you write more (saga?) about these fascinatingly attractive characters. More back story, more exploits, please; esp. a scene between A & V (I love your names). The “breakfast seascape”—a uniquely exquisite ‘sex scene’—left me metaphorically drooling and damp. Your language makes my mind’s nipples erect: “twin thrills of illicit secrets… plosive… plainted… little bleeders decked in fluorescence… steam wreathed voice… horrified butterfly hands… shoal of plump tomatoes… crozzled edging… “; and the last lovely perfect sentence (I felt ‘there’). Hoping to find a “full English”

How I wish you could write a huevos rancheros description just for me, you brilliant bloke, orr better yet, perform it in person just like in the story. *Drool*

Ochen harrahsho, malchik,

Perdita :rose:
 
gauchecritic said:
Eyup Amsterdam,

Thanks.

Surprisingly maybe, it's exactly what I wanted to read. Someone who could tell me that it wasn't what I thought it was, and why. You're not the only one who didn't see it by the way, the story has a score of 1.25 so far and if it rises above that I'd be very surprised.

To answer some of your questions: There is past history between those two but I thought I'd implied that in the way I wrote it, I obviously didn't.

I think the confusion was because the scene was halfway through the story.

The grease free finger and spirit gum and gentle touch were part of someone else's identity and not exactly scene enhancing or sexy without the proper context.

Looks like you answered my question completely and thankfully, with honesty.

So it seems I can't write sexless sex. Next question for me to discover; can anyone?

Sheffield eh? Do you know my wife's friend's mother?

Gauche


Nice response Gauche.

I find it difficult to read criticism of my work at first. I get angry and pissed off and then I read it again more objectively and usually come to the conclusion that the criticism was spot on!

Looks like you have some fans anyway - hope the story score continues to rise.

Amsterdam

p.s. Sheffield's a pretty big Village but what's your wife's friend's mother's name?!
 
Gauche,

For me, it didn’t work. However, a lot of that may be my problem, not yours. Our styles are very different. You like long sentences and intricate, lengthy word usage. As you told Doc, “Why use one syllable when you can use three?”

Of course, there’s nothing wrong with preferring three syllables when one would do the job. If lengthy, intricately worded sentences turn your crank, use ‘em. However, if you want to increase your scores and chances of getting published, that style could be a problem. There are exceptions, but for better or worse, the trend in modern publishing is to shorter sentences and paragraphs.

All that length and complexity tends to slow the place. And your use of adverbs adds to that situation. There are about 50 “ly” adverbs in this excerpt. In a way, adverbs would seem to run counter to your preference for three syllable instead of one. Adverbs tend to be a short-hand way of “telling” the reader something instead of taking the extra time needed to “show” them the same thing w/o adverbs.

I’d take all of this with a double-handful of salt. I’m half-way through "re-write hell" on my 90K manuscript, in part because my agent said I’d used too many of those adverbs. :)

Here are a few picky points from the first few chapters:

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Before they had taken a seat in the café across the road a purring voice asked from clouds of steam behind a formica (CAP. FORMICA) work top; “And what is it to be this morning my little Carlito?”

Venita squinted, as she took a rattan chair behind a plastic covered table, to see the outline of someone busy with an expresso (ESPRESSO?) machine from the 50’s. “Oh my!” (FOR ALL I KNOW, THE UK SPELLING MAY BE eXpresso. BUT FOR WHAT IT’S WORTH, IN THE US, IT’S eSpresso.)

Carl stopped mid-way to the serving counter and glanced back enquiringly. (“ENQUIRINGLY” IS WHAT STEPHEN KING WOULD CALL A “TOM SWIFTIE” ADVERB. IN HIS OPINION, THEY ARE BEST AVOIDED.)

--

Rumple Foreskin :cool:
 
Thanks very much Rump. I'll try to remember that: "Usually, intricately woven, overly long sentences, ordinarily make the pace move slowly, speaking adverbally. Seriously."

Now that will make me think twice whenever I find myself using them.

It was a langourous scene though. But I do take your point.

The setting is England and Expresso is what we called coffee shops in the 50s and 60s. In fact I had to correct my original spelling which was 'Espresso'. Cliff Richard was in a film around that time called "Expresso Bongo".

Defensive or what?

Thanks again Rump.

Gauche
 
Defensive or what?
Gauche,

Not defensive at all. Things like expresso/espresso are one of those verisimilitude things that'll drive you nuts. (a damn short trip in my case). It's always a problem knowing how to handle something like that w/o being historically inaccurate or going into a long lecture.

The book I'm doing the re-write on is set in the American south in 1968. A problem similar to yours is what to call black folks. During that time, the terms were changing rapidly. Black had just come into use, African-American was still in the future and many older blacks preferred Negro or even colored.

Glad some of my crap was, if not helpful, at least intelligible.

Rumple :cool:
 
Why sir, you do yourself a dishonour, and there are, sir, no more honorouble folk than the foreskins of this world.

Do the characters speak like that? Negra is the word I'd most associate with that time. Closer to the original French(?) from which it came.

Gauche
 
gauchecritic said:
Why sir, you do yourself a dishonour, and there are, sir, no more honorouble folk than the foreskins of this world.

Do the characters speak like that? Negra is the word I'd most associate with that time. Closer to the original French(?) from which it came.

Gauche
I tell you, us Foreskin's have been stretched, shoved aside and even cut-off, and it's true a lot of us are wrinkled, rumpled, a few are even chaffed and we do get pissed on a lot, but you better believe we done got honor we ain't even used yet.

In the south before and during this time "Negra" wasn't unknown but it was seldom used except in polite society. "Colored" which was easier to pronounce, was often used in it's place. Neither one was considered derogatory. The big fight in the '50's and early '60's was over whether "Negro" should be capitalized.

As a writer, the problem is what term(s) to use that will be more or less accurate and yet not throw the reader out of the story. In my case, I stuck in a short paragraph with the main character reflecting on names and then had him or the narrator use "black".

Rumple Foreskin :cool:
 
Gauche,

I think that I picked the wrong thread to read.

I must admit that reading your story made me feel like a man in a 3-piece suit, walking into a biker bar in the middle of a pool tournament.

You obviously have great skill as a wordsmith, but for me (Joe Average) in the middle of nowhere (Kansas) I found that reading it was a chore.

If I have to think that hard about everything that is being said, I quickly become tired of the whole thing. This does not mean that I don’t think that it is very good, just that it does not appeal to me.

I guess that makes me a simpleton.

I realize that I am out of my league with this type of writing, and therefore can only offer my opinion from a blue-collar worker’s point of view.
 
jmt,

If I didn't want opinions from the 'man in the street' I wouldn't have posed the question. As a matter of fact you may have given me the answer to another question I keep asking myself. How come some readers give my stories a 1 vote or a 2.

It honestly never struck me that my writing appears to be 'highbrow' and totally the opposite of what some people want to read.

I think of myself as a 'man in the street' obviously I'm walking on the other side of the road, in the dark, with shades.

I'd be really interested in what you think of one of my other stories. "Across the Street" or "Nice Work" compared to this example.

Thanks jmt, your point of view didn't kill me so hopefully it made me stronger.

Gauche
 
Well Sir,

I would be glad to read those stories as soon as I can, and give you some comments on them.

It occurred to me that you might be writing to the smallest percentage of readers on this site. Those who posses the skills that you have, and appreciate the finer aspects of word craft.

The largest percentage of readers may fall into the “Average Joe” category. The ones who get home from a hard day of work and want to “knock down” a few beers and read something that makes them and hopefully the missus horny.

Since I have no idea what your writing aspirations are, I can only speculate that the reason you might get a “1 or 2” vote is your writing skills are lost on those of us that do not have the skills to really appreciate it.

I have 45 stories posted and 35 of them have an “H” rating. By no means do I think that this means I am a good writer! In fact, technically I suck. But I must have found a formula that my readers like.

The only conclusion I can draw from this anomaly is that most of the readers like smut, and grammar be damned.

The challenge for you would be to write something you might consider being mundane, but doing it better than the rest of us “Wanna-be” writers.

Jmt
:D
 
Gauche,
I read the scene and I think I read the story too earlier.

I understand what you aim for with this scene, but I'm afraid I can't feel it. It's well written and detailed. Didn't find it that "highbrow".

Personally I wish you had chosen something more sensual than an English breakfast. Ok, it didn't have to be oysters or something posh, but personally I just couldn't get past the images of all that food.
English breakfast to me is far too much food on one plate, makes me think of hangover cure, greasy food, calories and well...not very sexy food. Guess I'm not that into English breakfasts (apart from the hash browns! mmm...) So, as I wasn't too fond of the choice of food I guess all those detailed descriptions of it didn't help much. I just got really turned off.

I do like the concept though, always found the book "Like water for chocolate" great, and those food scenes always had me going.
 
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