Sex on X (guys)

[WilliamHolden]

Sex on X (guys)?

I just wanted to hear what some guys have to say about what its like to be with another man while on ecstasy.

 

[Angel]

Why don't you try it, and then come back and show us the holes in your brain.

 

[WilliamHolden]

are you refering to the botched Ricaute study on primates? The primates were given methamphetamine (speed) as opposed to its close family member MDMA (ecstasy) link to this fluke's study

you don't sound too intelligent on the subject matter so try and educate yourself. Look to scientific studies rather than the media. I'm amazed that you would have the balls to make such a blatently incorrect statement as fact.

I'M LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT AND HAVE EXPERIENCE

 

[WilliamHolden]

the government recently approved using E in psychotherapy sessions to research it. I don't know what doctor said the quote but it something like "Through one session with the adminstration of ecstasy in an 5 hour session we are able to accomplish what would take years"

 

[Angel]

No, I'm referring to the person I used to date who is now a vegetable. That is first hand experience, fuck you very much.

I hope you thought your posts were witty and cute. You look like an idiot.

 

[Rhys]

Actually, I would be interested in the effects of MDMA. Specifically between two guys fucking. The reason is, I am writing a story about something and one of the characters is an X user. So, I will watch this thread as well.

Angel, I too have had a friend die from an X overdose. I am not advocating the drugs use or misuse with my interest.

 

[Angel]

Actually, I would be interested in the effects of MDMA. Specifically between two guys fucking. The reason is, I am writing a story about something and one of the characters is an X user. So, I will watch this thread as well.

Angel, I too have had a friend die from an X overdose. I am not advocating the drugs use or misuse with my interest.

Oh, I could care less if people want to use them. I've done a few things myself, but the guy is stupid if he thinks there is absolutely nothing that can go wrong, and based on his reaction, he probably feels that way.

Not the most intelligent way to walk into drug use of any kind.

 

[WilliamHolden]

It sounds like the person you used to date ate LOTS of pills. When you eat lots of pills you become an E-Tard aka a vegetable. The key is moderation. If you roll 4 times a year you will be fine. The problem is that there are lots of “dirty” pills that have ketamine, DXM, RC’s, PMA, ect. which can react fatally with some individuals. There are fine web sites out there that list the quality of E in your area. Personally I won't eat a pill until I have tested it and it comes back as MDMA. MDMA has been proven to be pretty harmless in moderation.

By the way, I'm not trying to advocate the use of E to anyone. If you are going to use a drug, educate yourself about until you are fully comfortable with it.

 

[John Doe]

I just wanted to hear what some guys have to say about what its like to be with another man while on ecstasy.

Dude, drugs are bad. Don't do drugs...and don't do while on drugs.

 

[WilliamHolden]

mmmmmm' k mr. mackey

I was hoping to get some intellegent feed back guys. guess this is the wrong place...

people I'm not looking for biased opinions on something you don't know jack about.

PLEASE DON'T POST UNLESS YOUR CONTRIBUTING TO ANSWERING THE QUESTION

 

[Angel]

Re: mmmmmm' k mr. mackey

PLEASE DON'T POST UNLESS YOUR CONTRIBUTING TO ANSWERING THE QUESTION

I'm sorry, but you just don't deserve an answer just for saying that. People around here don't take orders. If you want an answer, just wait. It will get answered.

And no. He didn't take a lot of pills at all.

 

[John Doe]

Why don't you try it, and then come back and show us the holes in your brain.

Is this "intellegent" (intelligent) enough for you, WH?

And I reiterate: Drugs: Baaad. Sex: Goood. Sex on drugs: Still baaad.

 

[ifitsfundoit]

I just wanted to hear what some guys have to say about what its like to be with another man while on ecstasy.

I can't talk with any authority on being with a man exclusively, but I do have experience of being in an all bi foursome on E.

There's a link in the footer of this post that will take you to the stories I've written. One of them is dedicated to a rather extraordinary evening myself and my wife spent with another couple sampling the delights of an uninhibited group session on E.

Long story short...stunning experience



To finish, a little food for thought for the other posters on this thread.

If so much as one drop of alcohol has passed your lips, or you're a smoker, your approach to drugs is somewhat hypocritical. The perils of both are very well documented, and yet by some quirk of fate, they are legal and accepted in society.

The number of drug deaths a year pales in comparison to the number of drink and smoking related deaths, yet all we ever hear is drugs are bad: don't do drugs.

I am not arguing that drugs are good. Far from it in fact, drugs are a terrible scourge on western society, smoking especially ( I should know). However, provided an individual is capable of making an informed, educated decision, they have the right to try whatever the hell they like, legal or otherwise.

 

[John Doe]

Re: Re: Sex on X (guys)

I can't talk with any authority on being with a man exclusively, but I do have experience of being in an all bi foursome on E.

There's a link in the footer of this post that will take you to the stories I've written. One of them is dedicated to a rather extraordinary evening myself and my wife spent with another couple sampling the delights of an uninhibited group session on E.

Long story short...stunning experience



To finish, a little food for thought for the other posters on this thread.

If so much as one drop of alcohol has passed your lips, or you're a smoker, your approach to drugs is somewhat hypocritical. The perils of both are very well documented, and yet by some quirk of fate, they are legal and accepted in society.

The number of drug deaths a year pales in comparison to the number of drink and smoking related deaths, yet all we ever hear is drugs are bad: don't do drugs.

I am not arguing that drugs are good. Far from it in fact, drugs are a terrible scourge on western society, smoking especially ( I should know). However, provided an individual is capable of making an informed, educated decision, they have the right to try whatever the hell they like, legal or otherwise.

(c) Avery_Chisholm 2004

Why is it that it's only druggies who shovel that load of shit?

Red wine in moderate amounts is actually good for a man's cardiovascular health.

About the only widespread drawback from beer is the excess carbs.

Etc. etc.

 

[WilliamHolden]

ifitsfundoit- thank you so much for responding with actual information. as for these dumb trolls, this is your last meal

no its not intelligent enough, in fact quite the opposite. Eating E does not cause you to get holes in your brain. Its one of those urban myths spread by the ignorant like LSD is stored in the spinal cord and shrooms make your brain bleed.

It depends on why you take drugs that would make them bad. If you take them to get fucked up and escape life regularly then they are bad. If you take them to step outside the box and gain new perspective on life on occasion then they can be quite beneficial IMO. Drugs aren't for everyone.

The whole alcohol thing still bamboozles me. More people die every year off this and yet its still socially acceptable and legal

Thanks for the PM's people, they have been most helpful!


EDIT: In the interest of harm reduction I'm goin to add a web site that measures the quality of E in your area Pill Reports

Where would music be without drugs?

 

[Angel]

The bottom line is, that I know plenty of people who take E on a fairly regular basis and most of them have suffered no ill effects. (as far as I can tell) But there are four people who stand out in my mind right now who do, or have done it and at this point in my life that's four too many people for me to risk it anymore.

Two are people I currently work with who are very intelligent individuals who I highly respected, and they've recently started going out every few nights with a group of friends to do E, and they have both completely changed. And it runs deeper than personality changes - they're just stupid now - I don't know what other way to put it. They could be lying that it's only E, and have taken other things - but that brings me to the other two.

The ex who took some with his new girlfriend, one time and ended up a human carrot (This is a guy who'd never even smoked a joint before), and the little girl I used to babysit for who hit her teens, tried E 4-5 times and died (I forget exactly how, but I think it was her heart)

Now, my comment about holes in your brain was a smart assed oneliner, but I should have elaborated at that point instead of waiting, but the truth is I completely forgot about this thread until it was replied to. So I apologise for getting bent over the reaction to it.

My personal opinion is that you grew your body for 18+ years, I think you have the right to try anything you want with it. I've experimented with a few drugs, weed, mushrooms, acid, more times than I can remember anymore, and when it wasn't right for me to do them anymore, I didn't. I think most people are like that, actually. I think the vast majority of people who dabble in drug use never get addicted, use it fairly responsibly and when they no longer have a use for it, stop. Of course, I knew that I have tendencies toward addiction so I would never, and would have never ever sampled coke, heroin, etc.

I just think that you, me and anyone else who tries any drug at all should weigh every pro and con at length before trying it, because there is always a risk involved - addiction, damage, jail or death. And even the small risks are big risks in the long run, IMO.

Just be careful.

 

[WilliamHolden]

E is magical and should be saved for special occasions such as Birth Days, 4th of July (anything with fireworks), and concerts (I hear sex is pretty good on it so I would like to try it).

I have friends myself who I have watched fall off the edge of the earth and ones who have just disappeared. A good friend of mine doesn't even recongnize me any more.

Blowing your serotonin every couple of nights is terrible. Please tell your co-workers about Pillreports.com and tell them to get educated if they are goin to play with such an intense fire. try giving them list so minimize the ill effects of it

Preloading:
1. 5-HTP - 200-400mg
2. L-Tyrosine - 500-1500mg
3. DLPA - 500-1500mg
4. L-Glutamine - 2-5 grams
5. Magnesium - 500-1000mg

Post load:
1. 5-HTP - 200-400mg
2. Vitamin C - 1000mg+
3. Magnesium - 500-1000mg

 

[Debbie]

<snip>

Just be careful.

Damn good advice.

http://www.focusas.com/Ecstasy.html

 

[WilliamHolden]

^^^^ sites that make money through teen drug prevention would have a biased view point on it don't you think? If I want information on E I dont need to be reading about all the other club drugs (as is catagorized on the page).

If you want current up to date infromation check out www.maps.org

 

[ifitsfundoit]

Re: Re: Re: Sex on X (guys)

(c) Avery_Chisholm 2004

Why is it that it's only druggies who shovel that load of shit?

Red wine in moderate amounts is actually good for a man's cardiovascular health.

About the only widespread drawback from beer is the excess carbs.

Etc. etc.

"About the only widespread drawback from beer is the excess carbs"

Are you mental? The drawbacks effects of excessive beer are well known. A carb too few is the least of them. Domestic violence, general street crime, driving under the influence, liver damage, brain damage...the list goes on.

And before you say it, illegal drugs, E, meth, heroin and so on are no different.

ANY mind altering substance should be treated with great care, regardless of it being legal or otherwise.

 

[John Doe]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Sex on X (guys)

"About the only widespread drawback from beer is the excess carbs"

Are you mental? The drawbacks effects of excessive beer are well known. A carb too few is the least of them. Domestic violence, general street crime, driving under the influence, liver damage, brain damage...the list goes on.

And before you say it, illegal drugs, E, meth, heroin and so on are no different.

ANY mind altering substance should be treated with great care, regardless of it being legal or otherwise.

If you'll reread my post, you'll see I never said excessive beer and in fact I was refering to moderate use (as with red wine).

Alcohol (not just beer) does not necessarily have deleterious side effects if used responsibly. Obviously driving while drunk or beating your spouse while drunk (or drinking so heavily you cause liver damage, etc.) are not responsible ways to drink. Although an individual who is the type that would beat thier spuse while drunk would likely be the type that does it when they are sober, so that's a specious example anyway.

On the other hand, narcotics and other 'hard' (illicit) drugs, can not be used in a manner that will not cause permanent physical damage. That's why they're illicit (illegal).

 

[John Doe]

E is magical...

I see...and which scientific study/unbiased website is that from?

 

[Angel]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Sex on X (guys)

"About the only widespread drawback from beer is the excess carbs"

Are you mental? The drawbacks effects of excessive beer are well known. A carb too few is the least of them. Domestic violence, general street crime, driving under the influence, liver damage, brain damage...the list goes on.

And before you say it, illegal drugs, E, meth, heroin and so on are no different.

ANY mind altering substance should be treated with great care, regardless of it being legal or otherwise.

Yeah I thought it was quite obvious that he was specifically speaking of the effects on a person's body (which affects all users of the substance) and not on the actions that SOME idiots may take while under the influence.

 

[WilliamHolden]

E does not necessarily have deleterious side effects if used responsibly. Obviously driving while rolling or beating your spouse while rolling (or using so heavily you cause brain damage, etc.) are not responsible ways to take E. Although an individual who is the type that would beat thier spuse while rolling would likely be the type that does it when they are sober, so that's a specious example anyway.

On the other hand, alcohol, can not be used in a manner that will not cause permanent physical damage. That's why there are more deaths a year caused from it than all the illegal substances combined.

If you take E too much or in the wrong settings it can "loose its magic" (quit working). I'm not sure what the scientific term is for not have enough serotonin and re-uptake sites to roll.

So your not in the scene and don't know shit about E eh Stuponfucious? I respect your decision not to use but I think its foolish to post your ignorance in here

 

[ifitsfundoit]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sex on X (guys)

If you'll reread my post, you'll see I never said excessive beer and in fact I was refering to moderate use (as with red wine).

Alcohol (not just beer) does not necessarily have deleterious side effects if used responsibly. Obviously driving while drunk or beating your spouse while drunk (or drinking so heavily you cause liver damage, etc.) are not responsible ways to drink. Although an individual who is the type that would beat thier spuse while drunk would likely be the type that does it when they are sober, so that's a specious example anyway.

On the other hand, narcotics and other 'hard' (illicit) drugs, can not be used in a manner that will not cause permanent physical damage. That's why they're illicit (illegal).

As there's no chance of us reaching any level of agreement about the relative pros and cons, I'll leave you with a link to Medicalnewstoday.com that details the deaths in the US in 2000.

You'll be interested to note that ciggies and booze (THE LEGAL drugs) are the top killers.

Shit...they must be good for us then

Medical News Today - US deaths in 2000