Sex before eighteen

[MathGirl]

I've been perusing a few stories here, getting some ideas and being amazed at some of the absolute shit that gets posted. As a result of my reading, I feel there is a societal issue that must be addressed.

In my reading, I find that nobody under eighteen ever has sex. They may look and act fourteen or so, but they are always at least eighteen. In fact, many seem to enter into an incestuous relationship with a parent on their eighteenth birthday.

I find this troublesome. Young people who have never had sex are suddenly up to their .... ears in it as soon as they turn eighteen. It's apparent that they knew nothing of it beforehand, and usually had no idea it existed. From my readings, it seems that nobody under eighteen even masturbates. This worries me.

It's my feeling that those under eighteen should at least be issued some sort of "learner's permit" like with driver's licenses. This would allow them to hold hands, maybe smooch a little, and certainly beat their own meats in the privacy of their own bedrooms.

There might possibly be a separate category on Lit.com to deal with stories of pre-eighteen experimentation. With strict guidelines and parental oversight, of course.

Your thoughts would be appreciated.

MG

 

[Svenskaflicka]

I agree, the whole idea that a person under 18 can't even THINK about sex is too much. On other sites, they allow people thinking about sex, talking about masturbation, dreaming about having sex, etc, that is, everything but actually DO it. I think I'd like to see a pre-18 category at Lit, with enough restrictions to keep out the "let's-fuck-the-kiddies" morons. A story about two 16 year-olds on a date, kissing and doing a little upon-the-clothes touching, would be a very cute, very romantic, and very sexy story.

And it would be a challenge for the Authors of Literotica to write a sexy story without that much actaul sex in it, as a contradiction to the stroke-stories that is written by sex-starved rednecks who unfortunately also visit this great site.

 

[MathGirl]

I. A story about two 16 year-olds on a date, kissing and doing a little upon-the-clothes touching, would be a very cute, very romantic, and very sexy story.

I tried that once with "My First Kiss." Rejected
MG

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Well, if you can change the names of the characters to Ronald Weasley and Hermione Granger, I can recommend a site for you that accepts stories about people under 18...

 

[MathGirl]

Well, if you can change the names of the characters to Ronald Weasley and Hermione Granger, I can recommend a site for you that accepts stories about people under 18...

Dear Svenska,
Why, pray tell, must they be named Ronald and Hermoine?
MG

 

[deliciously_naughty]

Legal reasons...I understand Laurel's line and although I might disagree with it on ocassion, I think that we should be grateful that there's a site like lit at all that we don't have to pay to be part of.

But I understand your points and irritation MG

 

[TheEarl]

Doubly irritating because apparently no-one has sex until 2 years after they're legal in England.

However I do understand the constraints that Laurel...usual thank you to the wonderful Laurel, etc. This is just a generalised moan, not a ocmplaint.

The Earl

 

[Pure]

//It's my feeling that those under eighteen should at least be issued some sort of "learner's permit" like with driver's licenses. This would allow them to hold hands, maybe smooch a little, and certainly beat their own meats in the privacy of their own bedrooms. //

The last poll I read had 1/4 of the UNDER 15s having sex. It seems a learner's permit should be issued at, say, 12.

But MG, this is confusing the issues: What should 16 year olds do? with "Which stories, if any, about 16 yr olds should Lit post?" You do not really address that--i.e., give reason other than points related to the first question.

Just because something is done, is not a reason to post it here, e.g., axe murders, disembowelments, etc.

Laurel's ultracautious. What can I say. The topics been hashed over many times. The 'internet' porn and 'control' laws keep popping up, making everyone uneasy.

J.

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Dear Svenska,
Why, pray tell, must they be named Ronald and Hermoine?
MG

Well... ehm... they don't have to, actually. You could call them... Draco Malfoy and Ginny Weasley. Or Fred Weasley and Angelina Johnson (was the female character black, by any chance?) Or how about Lily Evans and James Potter..?

 

[Svenskaflicka]

The site I'm referring to says THIS about characters and age:

3. Underage characters:


a) No fiction involving explicit sex with a character under age 15 is allowed, although indirect references to such activity are allowed if necessary to the story (i.e., hints of child abuse). When in doubt, email the archivists (moderator@restrictedsection.org) and ask them to review the story.
b) Stories with a character/characters between 15 and 17 involved in a romantic/sexual relationship are allowed. Please be sure to *warn* in the posting interface for Underage characters.

 

[pop_54]

Hi all

I understand Laurel's stance on this, it isn't needed by law, but the site would rather stick with the US led 18 age of consent rules for pornography to avoid trouble, although in law erotic writing is classed as fictional literature rather than porn.

It is however a strangle hold on creative writing, it makes authors have to mutilate a perfectly good and believable story in order to get it posted.

The biggest frustration is trying to convince the world that no person under 18 ever exisited, birth takes place at 18 here never mind sex acts, you try mentioning that someone put their 5 yr old to bed then went and had sex with her hubby in a different room, as soon as the 5 is spotted alarm bells will ring and out will go your story.
If the mods don't spot it one of the regular creeps on the board will report it either by PM to a mod, or an open post bringing it to the attention of the world.

I for one do not support child porn in any guise, either pictures or kiddie screwing stories, right out of order.

Living about half a mile from me are a married couple, both are 17, they have one kid already which Kathy gave birth to when she was 16, all very legal in the real world, but not in here.

But the idea that no kid ever got screwed, specially in an incestuous relationship is false, and it should be possible to make note of this, it could make the tale more believable and go some way to explain the circumstances.
Clair turned into a nympho because her daddy screwed her when she was * well you know what I mean.

There are actually quite a number of sites that will accept dubious material, but it is posted to strictly age controlled forum boards with a very strong disclaimer to get past on entry.

pops...........

 

[Svenskaflicka]

I respect Laurel's rules about Lit not having any sex stories including people under 18. I don't like it, but I respect it. But why couldn't we be allowed to write about 17-year-olds in a Non-Erotic story? Is the fact that the story would be so close to sex stories somehow contaminating?

 

[MathGirl]

Whiff.............

But I understand your points and irritation MG

Dear DN,
Actually, I was just trying to be a smart ass, as usual.
MG

Ps. I have absolutely no problem with the rules on Lit. Please read the first sentence I wrote here.

 

[MathGirl]

Oh, shit!

Well... ehm... they don't have to, actually. You could call them... Draco Malfoy and Ginny Weasley. Or Fred Weasley and Angelina Johnson (was the female character black, by any chance?) Or how about Lily Evans and James Potter..?

Oh, my God! Why did I ask that stupid question? I should have KNOWN what was going to happen.
MG

 

[openthighs_sarah]

I'm still waiting to read a story in which the main characters are described as being "exactly twelve years old", but it's clearly stated that the story takes place in an alternate universe in which the earth takes 547.5 days to complete its revolution around the sun.

I don't mind the restrictions myself. The only time I noticed it was when I was having a character reflect on the first blow job she ever gave. I avoided the age thing completely because it seemed too blatantly ridiculous to say she was 18 when it happened; so I just skipped it, although the reader will probably imagine she was fairly young. (We'll see if it gets rejected, though.)

 

[deliciously_naughty]

Re: Whiff.............

Dear DN,
Actually, I was just trying to be a smart ass, as usual.
MG

Ps. I have absolutely no problem with the rules on Lit. Please read the first sentence I wrote here.

sorry sweetie...overtired and without sense of tone today

 

[KillerMuffin]

I respect Laurel's rules about Lit not having any sex stories including people under 18. I don't like it, but I respect it. But why couldn't we be allowed to write about 17-year-olds in a Non-Erotic story? Is the fact that the story would be so close to sex stories somehow contaminating?

Actually you can. The rules states:

No sexual activity involving underage persons will be considered. For the purposes of this site, the minimum legal age is 18.

It doesn't say no fictional characters below 18, just no sexual activity involving persons under 18.

 

[MathGirl]

It doesn't say no fictional characters below 18, just no sexual activity involving persons under 18.

Then why was my *&(*^(*&)(*$##@@@!! story rejected? All they did was hold hands and kiss a little.
MG

 

[snooper]

All they did was hold hands and kiss a little.

Apparently that is sexual activity under Lit rules.

And lactation stories on here are conspicuous for the absence of any legitimate reason for lactating.

 

[Pure]

No sure what you mean, but there are some great lactation stories, here!! If you mean, 'reasons' such as fucking and having a baby and nursing it, that is more than alluded to, in several.

J.

 

[Pure]

//hold hands and kiss a little.//

right, MG, but the 'location' of the kisses matters.... get with the program!

 

[SlaveMasterUK]

under-aged characters

I don't really have an issue with the rules here, although I have plans for some shorts set around the UK boy-racer scene (bet they didn't see that coming...) in which most of the girls seem to be around 16. this is perfectly legal in the UK, but I'll have to mod my stories if I want them on lit.

Also, I haven't had an issue with under-aged characters so far- there's a scene in Rhiana where the character is masturbating in her bed and keeps getting interrupted by her younger sisters who want her to come and play (not play and come... {ducks}) The dialogue shows her sisters are clearly a lot younger than her, and too young to be involved in any sexual story..........

Nobody seemed to have a problem with this so far, but since it's a good way into the story, I bet most people who cared gave up long before then...

ax

 

[Uther_Pendragon]

Yeah.
I've seen some story where the girl was listed as 18, but
she was wearing a TRAINING bra. That has to be some
sort of record.
But that's Laurel's interpretation of the law. (I think
she's wrong, but it's not my property which is at risk.)

 

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[Svenskaflicka]

KillerMuffin has a point. Minors ARE allowed, as long as they are not involved with anything sexual. In one of my stories, 3 kids of the age 15 walk into a room, talk about their homework, and then walk away again. That passed with hardly any problems.

But if I had had them walking into the room holding hands, and kissing each other on the cheeks before they went separate ways, it would have been rejected. *sigh*