Sex and Drugs In Stories

[JeffersonPierce]

I just wanted to throw this out to the Literoticans out there. I am in the midst of trying to complete a story for posting and there is a lot of weed in it. I have used (and continue to) maryjane as an aphrodisiac, so it seems logical, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't breaking any rules or offending anyone.

 

[Svenskaflicka]

You DO offend someone. Me.

I'll make a note never to read anything you write. Thank you for saving me the trouble of having to hit the back-button.

 

[TheEarl]

Svenska: Can't quite figure this out. Are you being sarky or serious?

The Earl

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Dead serious, Earl. I hate junkies!

 

[Weird Harold]

I just wanted to throw this out to the Literoticans out there. I am in the midst of trying to complete a story for posting and there is a lot of weed in it. I have used (and continue to) maryjane as an aphrodisiac, so it seems logical, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't breaking any rules or offending anyone.

There are no rules against drug use in stories; In fact it's a fairly common plot element.

However, like including anything other than missionary sex with the lights out in your stories, you're going to offend some people. I wouldn't worry about offending people unless your only measure of your story's worth is the voting score, in which case, you should never offend anyone for any reason and only write about missionary sex in the dark between husband and wife.

 

[Quasimodem]

. . . .never offend anyone for any reason and only write about missionary sex in the dark between husband and wife. . .

Which will be HIGHLY offensive to people who think only stories of non consensual incest are worth the electrons with which they are written.

 

[TheEarl]

Re: Re: Sex and Drugs In Stories

However, like including anything other than missionary sex with the lights out in your stories, you're going to offend some people.

Now that offends me. A couple who have no kinkiness. Gaah!

SF: Fair 'nuff.

The Earl

 

[Madame Manga]

Dead serious, Earl. I hate junkies!

Weed? I'd call 'em potheads rather than junkies--that's a heroin user in these parts. No, potheads are not much fun to be around (too much irrational laughter, bad smells, all your food vanishes) but they are not quite in the junkie league, IMO.

Nobody smokes nothing in Madame's house, no sir... ;-)

MM

 

[MathGirl]

Confession

Speaking of junkies.........
I seem to be picking up the cigarette habit. My aunt next door smokes constantly, and I would smoke one of her VSlims once in a while. Today I actually bought a pack of cigarettes for the first time.

Good grief! I don't even like the damn things.
MG

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Hmmm, try "unreliable, breaking promises, going in and out of reality, threaten you, harass you, use physical violence against you..."

No matter what you call them, drug users are on the same level as people who hurt animals or fuck children, in my opinion.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

There are very few writers who can decently describe or do any sort of literary justice to the drug experience. (Very few who can desribe or do do justice to the sexual experience either, but that's another story). And if we can have stories about sex on the floor of a public bathroom, I doubt sucking on a reefer is going to send anyone off screaming to the authorities.

A long time ago we used to have people boozing it up before sex, as if that would somehow explain their behavior or make it more exciting. Drugs have changed and now we have people lighting up or snorting for the same reason. Unless you can explain how drugs make sex different, or what the drug experience is like, it probably won't make a bit of difference in terms of the story, will it?

As long as you can avoid the obvious cliches of spinning rooms, dissolving inhibitions, and senses suddenly coming alive, go for it. I doubt it will effect the story at all, and you'll probably get less flack than you would if you had your characters using tobacco.


---dr.M.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Re: Confession

Speaking of junkies.........
I seem to be picking up the cigarette habit. My aunt next door smokes constantly, and I would smoke one of her VSlims once in a while. Today I actually bought a pack of cigarettes for the first time.

Good grief! I don't even like the damn things.
MG

You'd be better off with pot. It's cheaper and easier to get.

---dr.M.

 

[MathGirl]

you'll probably get less flack than you would if you had your characters using tobacco.

Dear Dr M,
That's very true. One of my stories had someone smoking a post-coital cigarette. I got several letters of outrage about that. E.g. "I loved your story and wanted to give it a 5. The guy smoked a cigarette, though, so I gave it a 1." I decided that smoking, drinking, or using drugs adds nothing to a story and only serves to piss off some people.
MG

 

[Svenskaflicka]

"I loved your story and wanted to give it a 5. The guy smoked a cigarette, though, so I gave it a 1."

I'll copy that idea.

 

[gauchecritic]

Re: Re: Confession

You'd be better off with pot. It's cheaper and easier to get.

---dr.M.

OK I only ever smoked dope once (didn't like it much), when it was rolled, it was 'peppered' into the tobacco. How does that make it cheaper?

Gauche

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Dear Dr M,
That's very true. One of my stories had someone smoking a post-coital cigarette. I got several letters of outrage about that. E.g. "I loved your story and wanted to give it a 5. The guy smoked a cigarette, though, so I gave it a 1." I decided that smoking, drinking, or using drugs adds nothing to a story and only serves to piss off some people.
MG

Yeah, the woods are full of crypto-Puritans, ready to kill us in order to save us from ourselves.

I freely admit to being a long time recreational drug user. I've had a lot of fun and learned a lot. I have absolutely no problem with drugs except that they're expensive and illegal, and those aren't the drugs' fault.

---dr. god

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Yeah, the woods are full of crypto-Puritans, ready to kill us in order to save us from ourselves.

I freely admit to being a long time recreational drug user. I've had a lot of fun and learned a lot. I have absolutely no problem with drugs except that they're expensive and illegal, and those aren't the drugs' fault.

---dr. god

*writing doc up on List Of Authors To Avoid*

 

[dr_mabeuse]

*L* Well, I guess that puts me on a level with the animal torturers and child pornographers. I won't even try to understand your reasoning, Svenska.

I just hope my confession was in time to protect you from even glancing at one of my stories. I can't imagine what irreparable harm it would have done you.

And God knows how many other things have been written by people who feel the same way I do.


---dr.M.

 

[Sabledrake]

Hmm. I never realized that pot worked as an aphrodisiac. Everyone I've known who used it always seemed far too mellow and relaxed to be interested in sex. Admittedly, though, I run in pretty tame circles. I can't even handle more than one drink (you'd think, with my body weight, I could! <g>) and despite attending college in Humboldt County, never smoked.

Gosh ... no cigs, no coffee, no drugs, exceedingly rare alcohol ... I guess my drugs of choice are ice cream and chocolate

Sabledrake

 

[sailorm72003]

...

... no cigs, no coffee, no drugs, exceedingly rare alcohol ... I guess my drugs of choice are ice cream and chocolate

Sabledrake

No COFFEE??

That's a serious shortcoming. I'll have to send you a few pounds of Juan's finest.

S

 

[Madame Manga]

I can't afford to be uncharitable to potheads. I married a man who used to smoke weed--he quit before I met him, though, or he wouldn't have gotten to square one with me. He has never deceived, beaten or harassed me, if that matters. He always mooched it from friends; he never spent a cent on a toke.

I used to be far fiercer about the immorality of mood-altering substances. I never drank a cup of coffee until I was thirty-six. I took cartons of milk to cast parties and ostentatiously downed it in lieu of strawberry daquiris. I have never puffed or popped or injected anything for recreational purposes, though I'm known to down a beer with a curry once in a while. I got over the crusading thing. There are worse things to worry about than people who like to stew in the wreckage of their own brain cells.

MM

Edit: I'm poking fun at myself here, which may not be obvious. ;-) I was a real twerp in high school. Thank goodness you didn't know me back then.

MM

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Nothing like a little sanctimony to make us all feel good, is there?

And if you can make a virtue out of a necessity while you're at it, so much the better.

---dr.M.

 

[flawed_ethics]

Just my unasked opinion

It all depends on the person using marijuana. I know some people who are are as lively with it as without. They know their limits and abide well to them. They're the same type who also know when they've had too much to drink and basically know when too much is 'too much'.

Then there are some who need it to get by. Obviously they don't know themselves very well, which points to other problems in their lives. I've taken a few hits. Stoned once, good buzz once (different time than stoned incident). Other hits didn't phase me. I know my limits though drinking, and they're not that high (no pun intended). So I rarely participate.

As for using drugs in a story, go for it. Like it's been pointed out, you'll offend some, but that was probably going to happen anyway. Elude to it early if you want people who will otherwise be disappointed to hit the 'Back' button. Characters using drugs can add a lot to the character's evolution.

 

[Svenskaflicka]

I really can't understand how so many of you can be so laid-back with this issue. You may argue until you turn blue like a smurf that marijuana isn't as bad as other drugs, but me, I loathe marijuana smokers as heavily as loathe those who use heroin.

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Why?

Because I've experienced what happens when people use drugs. No, I've never used any myself. But I've had pals and lovers who did.

And I'm glad that I'm alive to talk about it.