Serves him right for eating cat!

[DVS]

A local delicacy? Ew! I just can't believe some people. Is it any wonder why we have strange incurable diseases coming from that part of the world?

 

[Loverskitten]

A local delicacy? Ew! I just can't believe some people. Is it any wonder why we have strange incurable diseases coming from that part of the world?

:O note to self, NEVER visit China

 

[Raisa_Greywood]

:O note to self, NEVER visit China

Visiting China isn't the problem. Just eat vegetarian.

 

[seela]

A Korean friend of mine once explained, that in the olden days horses and cows, or waterbuffalos, were used to work the fields and they only carry one young at a time, so there was no way they wanted to eat them. Dogs, however, can have many puppies at a time and weren't essential for field work. Cats, I suppose, fall in the same category.

I mean. I eat horse meat. And rabbit. Those are pets as well. And I love reindeer meat, which many American and British people have found strange.

I guess I'm just not so shocked about these kinds of stories. Protein is hard to come by in some parts of the world. Ok, in this case that wasn't why he guy was eating cat stew, but still.

And I'm a cat owner myself.

 

[DVS]

If someone needs to eat dog or cat to survive, that's one thing. I know there are cultures that have very little meat or protein and so their eating habits are different than mine. I can deal with that and survive.

I also understand the Korean mind set, and I'd imagine that this is a similar thing, but I just have a thing against eating domesticated animals. I don't think I could eat horse, but I've eaten rabbit. Of course, it wasn't someone's pet. It was a wild rabbit and the family I ate with ate rabbit on a regular basis, as a necessity. They couldn't always afford beef or pork and rabbit was a common meal for them. And wild rabbit is common wild game, the same as deer. I've never had deer meat and don't care to. Cute little Bambi. I even had frog legs with that family. Another food I wouldn't look for, on my own. But, both frog legs and rabbit were quite tasty as long as I didn't think of the cute little bunny or the interesting frog going "ribbit...ribbit" while the evening sun was setting. I don't mind eating fish either, but I don't have any interest in fishing and catching the fish. If nothing else, I consider it quite boring.

Koreans eat dog, and while I understand that, it wouldn't be something I'd enjoy. It's the same with this cat stew. I wouldn't enjoy it. And they called it a local delicacy, which threw me a little. Just a different culture, I guess.

I also don't enjoy eyes of any kind or any animal that is eaten raw. Yes, sushi is out. I don't care if it is marinated. Not my thing. Shit, I don't like liver, either but I know many people enjoy liver and onions. My family enjoys it...all of them except me, that is. I've seen cow's tongue and would never attempt that, either. I have had mountain oysters once, but like my dad always said about things he'd had but didn't care to have again..."I wouldn't order it in a restaurant." That's a pretty good rule for me when deciding what's food and what isn't.

I have cats and have had cats for years and years. I've also had my share of dogs, too. My sister has a large bunny, too. It's not a part of my culture to eat cats or dogs so I don't. I only ate rabbit and frog that one time, and that was over 40 years ago. So, while I do my best to keep my new kitten from typing strange words during this post, when I hear that someone does eat what I consider domesticated animals, I think...ew.

SHIT, I don't even like nuts! I know, now you all think I'm really strange. OK, OK, no jokes about the mountain oysters. I'm talking cashews, walnuts, pecans, etc. People actually put these things in cookies and pies? Yuck!

 

[StrayKat]

I can only say, DVS you must be a hard man to cook for.

 

[Loverskitten]

Visiting China isn't the problem. Just eat vegetarian.

Guess you didn't get the joke

Eat me! but not as stew

 

[Bandit58]

I lived on a farm in NZ for 23 years, and lived in a small country village before that. When I was growing up we ate rabbit occasionally. Rabbits are a pest in NZ and my father worked for the local council as a pest destruction officer (this included rabbits and hares at first but grew to include possums as well that had been introduced from Australia).

Never eaten possum myself but our cats and dogs on the farm loved it - cheap pet food for only the cost of a .22 bullet. It has a bit of a musty smell and I have to say that smell was the only thing that gave me nausea when I was pregnant

I've eaten ox heart (a bit tough actually), sheep's heart, liver and kidneys. Not tripe, can't stand the texture! I had haggis once too it was lovely.

DVS cow's tongue is delicious! Sir turns a lovely shade of green if I mention it though

 

[StrayKat]

Well among other animals I bred rabbits for meat. It was the best way to get delicious and healthy food for my kids.

On the other hand I had a rabbit living with us in the house as a pet.
She lived to be 12 years old, used the kitty litter box and reduced the legs of all my tables to toothpicks.

 

[Stella_Omega]

If I were in China and I were offered cat I would eat it. If I were offered dog, I would eat it. There are several species of rat that live in forested areas and eat fruit, that are delicacies in China. If I were offered those, I would eat them. The point of that article wasn't that the stew was cat meat but that it was poisoned. And the poison was a veggie.


It's quite true that some "strange incurable diseases" stem from the eating of bad food. One of the most horrific of course, is Mad Cow disease, which comes from the Western habit of feeding ground up cow bones to cows. We have forced cannibalism on vegetarian animals, and we've paid the price-- so have the cattle, for that matter.

We Americans are ridiculously finicky about what proper food is, and we have restricted ourselves to the most environmentally expensive animals and plants. We eat like spoiled little princesses.

 

[DVS]

I can only say, DVS you must be a hard man to cook for.

Nah, not really. I'm just a purist, in some cases. But I love most Italian foods, Mexican foods, Japanese and Chinese (the Americanized versions, I guess) as I'm sure I'd like many others, if I get the chance to try them. I love spicy hot foods but I've only traveled out of the country once, back in 1962 to Canada. Back then, I was even more particular. But, I'm better than one of my sisters who refuses to eat lobster or crab, just because she doesn't like how they look. She's never tasted either one.

I do sometimes complain when I go to a dinner and there are nuts in every fucking dish and desert. What is it with Thanksgiving and Christmas and nuts, anyway? And I love most chocolate fudge, but nuts are almost always in ingredient. They even go as far as to put them on top. Most nuts give me chills, I hate them so much. The worst is pecans. God, those things taste awful. Why would anyone ever want to eat pecan pie? Call me strange if you want. I'm happy and I won't ever change.

 

[DVS]

If I were in China and I were offered cat I would eat it. If I were offered dog, I would eat it. There are several species of rat that live in forested areas and eat fruit, that are delicacies in China. If I were offered those, I would eat them. The point of that article wasn't that the stew was cat meat but that it was poisoned. And the poison was a veggie.


It's quite true that some "strange incurable diseases" stem from the eating of bad food. One of the most horrific of course, is Mad Cow disease, which comes from the Western habit of feeding ground up cow bones to cows. We have forced cannibalism on vegetarian animals, and we've paid the price-- so have the cattle, for that matter.

We Americans are ridiculously finicky about what proper food is, and we have restricted ourselves to the most environmentally expensive animals and plants. We eat like spoiled little princesses.

I don't care if my food choices are considered finicky. I'll never be taking a trip to China, so I don't have to worry about eating cat, dog or rat.

 

[DVS]

I lived on a farm in NZ for 23 years, and lived in a small country village before that. When I was growing up we ate rabbit occasionally. Rabbits are a pest in NZ and my father worked for the local council as a pest destruction officer (this included rabbits and hares at first but grew to include possums as well that had been introduced from Australia).

Never eaten possum myself but our cats and dogs on the farm loved it - cheap pet food for only the cost of a .22 bullet. It has a bit of a musty smell and I have to say that smell was the only thing that gave me nausea when I was pregnant

I've eaten ox heart (a bit tough actually), sheep's heart, liver and kidneys. Not tripe, can't stand the texture! I had haggis once too it was lovely.

DVS cow's tongue is delicious! Sir turns a lovely shade of green if I mention it though

So, if we don't like it, there's more for you.

 

[Loverskitten]

If I were in China and I were offered cat I would eat it. If I were offered dog, I would eat it. There are several species of rat that live in forested areas and eat fruit, that are delicacies in China. If I were offered those, I would eat them. The point of that article wasn't that the stew was cat meat but that it was poisoned. And the poison was a veggie.

If you were visiting a place where they still practice cannibalism, would you eat human if it was offered? Maybe a nice rump roast?

 

[Loverskitten]

In USA kitteh eats human
http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff512/Loverskitten/e7489f11.jpg
nom nom nom

 

[JMohegan]

The problem with China is the anti-freeze in toothpaste, melamine in pet food, tainted baby formula, etc. Not to mention lead paint on kids' toys.

You know, the absence of a functioning FDA.

Cats as food sounds like a good plan to me. Certainly better than letting them roam neighborhoods, hunting wildlife and shitting in garden beds.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I don't care if my food choices are considered finicky. I'll never be taking a trip to China, so I don't have to worry about eating cat, dog or rat.

Your preferences are not the problem, though-- it's you ascribing moral disgustingness to other people's food the way you did.

You know that thing about being sex-positive? Where we learn to say; "It's not for me, but other people's choices are not my business?"

Same deal here.

Don't want an abortion? Don't have one. Don't approve of gay marriage? Don't marry another man. Don't want to eat cat? Wave it on if they pass you that plate. No big whoop-de-do.

If you were visiting a place where they still practice cannibalism, would you eat human if it was offered? Maybe a nice rump roast?

Ah, the slippery slope argument, eh?

I've asked myself that question actually, and-- yes, I think I might. Of course I could change my mind very suddenly!

As I understand it though, cannibalistic people tend to chop human meat into small lumps, cook it as stew. If you notice, that's the default for most bush cookery. it's the most energy efficient method of heating and tenderising meats-- wild animals exercise their muscles a whole lot, and are very tough chewing otherwise!

Paul Theroux makes the argument that you can tell which cultures have beencannibalistic, because those potted meats, like Spam etc, are very popular there. There's an oily texture, he claims, that is similar to humanflesh.

Of course, many of those cultures are on small islands where there isn't much red meat available on the hoof, so I think it's a little bit suspect. Or... maybe not...

 

[DVS]

Your preferences are not the problem, though-- it's you ascribing moral disgustingness to other people's food the way you did.

You know that thing about being sex-positive? Where we learn to say; "It's not for me, but other people's choices are not my business?"

Same deal here.

Don't want an abortion? Don't have one. Don't approve of gay marriage? Don't marry another man. Don't want to eat cat? Wave it on if they pass you that plate. No big whoop-de-do.

Ah, the slippery slope argument, eh?

I've asked myself that question actually, and-- yes, I think I might. Of course I could change my mind very suddenly!

As I understand it though, cannibalistic people tend to chop human meat into small lumps, cook it as stew. If you notice, that's the default for most bush cookery. it's the most energy efficient method of heating and tenderising meats-- wild animals exercise their muscles a whole lot, and are very tough chewing otherwise!

Paul Theroux makes the argument that you can tell which cultures have beencannibalistic, because those potted meats, like Spam etc, are very popular there. There's an oily texture, he claims, that is similar to humanflesh.

Of course, many of those cultures are on small islands where there isn't much red meat available on the hoof, so I think it's a little bit suspect. Or... maybe not...

My ascribing moral disgusting-ness to other people's food is my choice as would someone who loves cat stew turning their nose up at some of the things I enjoy. I show my disgust for his eating cat stew. He might not like it that I eat cow or coat it with disgusting BBQ sauce. I would understand that. My mother thought BBQ sauce was disgusting and she was a great cook...just not BBQ.

It's an equal thing, tit for tat. Like eating cow tongue, tripe, haggis or anything else in someone's culture. If you say you don't like something in their culture, that can translate to you saying you don't like them and that's just not true. It's just a culture thing and nothing more. But I still don't like the idea of eating cat, or dog...not even with BBQ sauce.

 

[Babyslave]

Ahh, man. I knew I shouldn't have clicked on this.

Eww, Eww, Eww. Granted I get queasy easily, but this just.... well, turned my stomach.

I'd watched a documentary on Peru, and learned that Guinea Pigs are considered a delicacy. Similar to here in the states, they have them on display, like we do our lobster and you can pick out the one you want to eat. They strongly suggested that foreigners don't eat them, as their systems couldn't handle it. (I'm thinking germs, bacteria, etc) Not a problem for this girl.

I'm with DVS. I couldn't consider eating a domesticated animal. Instead, I'm gonna give my kitty cat an extra dose of cuddling and I'm gonna start right now.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Right, it's not for you. It's repugnant to your sensibilities.

Me, I avoid bell peppers whenever possible. They are yucky to my taste buds.

But we aren't any closer to moral perfection because we don't eat cat or bell peppers than someone who does is.

Your mom turned up her nose at BBQ sauce but she didn't claim that dreadful diseases came from people who like BBQ sauce, or that being murdered serves them right-- which is what you've said in so many words.

Yah see what I'm saying?

 

[StrayKat]

I couldn't consider eating a domesticated animal.

Every animal can be domesticated and probably is somewhere.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I'm with DVS. I couldn't consider eating a domesticated animal. Instead, I'm gonna give my kitty cat an extra dose of cuddling and I'm gonna start right now.

I remember a story a friend told me, about travelling in Cambodia. He was the honored guest in a village that is a hunting tribe, and they eat pretty much anything they can kill out there in the jungle. At the same time, they keep pets-- monkeys, pigs, dogs, the same species that they eat. The pet animals are loved, and named, and don't get eaten.

My friend woke up one morning, and a huge Brahma cow was tethered to his porch railing, purchased to be slaughtered for a feast later that week. Cows are curious and friendly animals, and it started moving towards him. He was about to reach out to pat it, when his host rushed out of the house: "David, don't pet the food!"

if the villagers thought he'd made an attachment to the (very expensive to purchase) cow, they wouldn't be able to slaughter it-- and would have had to find the funds to buy another one.

So,pet your beloved kitty, and let some Chinese dude eat the one that is not your pet.


Also-- I've been thinking about raising guinea pigs for food. it's a growing trend in this country, what with the lack of finances and the rising cost of meat in the markets. It's almost impossible to raise your own cow anymore but guineas are cheap, and fast growing, take little space, and provide high quality protein. And they taste like chicken

I have a feeling that recommending white folks to not order guinea pig is more because of the way the thing looks on the plate. We don't mind seeing a whole chicken with two legs and two wings, but we are not used to seeing four legs on a fried carcasse for our forks and knives.

 

[intothewoods]

Stella, I agree with your perspective and like your explanation.

JM, of course, has a known, sadistic prejudice against cats. Think those Ron Paul newsletters were bad? Read JM's past posts on cats. Harrowing!

Cats as food sounds like a good plan to me. Certainly better than letting them roam neighborhoods, hunting wildlife and shitting in garden beds.

*off to pet my pussy*

 

[Babyslave]

I understand the reasons, I know that THEIR cats aren't MY cat, or dog, or horse, or whatever. Consider it a quirk of mine. It Icks me out, in epic proportions.

I was raised on a farm, live yet in farm country, and work for a farm related business. My friends breed horses, and I work in the fields and orchards when I need to.

Our family raises pigs and cattle and every year they're slaughtered, and we bust our asses cutting it, grinding it, packaging it, making sausage, etc. (We purchase a couple of for ourselves, and then split it up amonst us.

I know people would find that icky. I get that. I probably would too, if I wasn't raised the way I was. Veal is still a bit of an issue for me, but I try really really hard to get over it. (Veal Marsala. Nom nom nom) 'Cause there just ain't nuthin' cuter than a calf buttin' up against ya' and bleatin' for yur attention or sucking on the hem of your pants.

But, for me, things I consider domesticated, like cats, hamsters, rabbits, dogs, etc. Grosses me out.

 

[DVS]

Right, it's not for you. It's repugnant to your sensibilities.

Me, I avoid bell peppers whenever possible. They are yucky to my taste buds.

But we aren't any closer to moral perfection because we don't eat cat or bell peppers than someone who does is.

Your mom turned up her nose at BBQ sauce but she didn't claim that dreadful diseases came from people who like BBQ sauce, or that being murdered serves them right-- which is what you've said in so many words.

Yah see what I'm saying?

Don't take things too literally. My humor is obviously lost if you're a serious type who take EVERYTHING seriously. I have a dry sense of humor. If you didn't catch it, I'm sorry, but it loses its punch, when I have to explain it. Sarcasm also has to have some truth in it to be sarcasm. There are diseases in some parts of the world, because of their age old cultural practices.

You might not understand it, but I started this thread as a humor thing, just to make a crack at someone eating cat...an animal I tend to like a lot, and dying. That's it. But some have to make a serious deal out of it.

That's the end of it and that's as far as I'm going with it. Jesus fucking Chirst. Find something else to find fault with. I've got to get some sleep before I go to work, tonight.