Serious question, why is it controversial to have separate restrooms for men, women?

[renard_ruse]

As most here know I am a staunch supporter of maintaining the differences between the sexes as well as an opponent of the gay agenda. However, even if I were not, I would still be completely puzzled as to how it can possibly be "controversial" to have laws requiring people to use the restroom (or public shower, etc) of their own sex. This just seems like the most basic rational normal common sense thing its possible to think of. Also, its beyond my comprehension how 90% or more of the population don't just naturally support this as basic non-controversial common sense.

I recently watched a TV show from the 80s, and a man went into the ladies room. She ran out and told her husband and he went in and beat up the "pervert" for spying on his wife. I mean, it was kind of not the thing to do. Nobody even thought it was ok. Why would he be in there if not to peep on the ladies?

Now, apparently not only is it a major controversy, a large majority of the public sides with those who say there should be no restrictions at all. Regardless of one's views on the gay agenda and all that stuff, how/when did this happen and why? It seems very counterintuitive to me a majority would support this.

Why would someone not want to use the bathroom of their particular sex? And if the 0.1% of transvestites, transwhatevertheyare are really dressed up like the opposite sex, who would know. I mean you can usually suspect, but not for sure. Why would a common sense law even be "controversial" to anyone?

Again, not trying to turn this into a debate over the gay agenda or even the feminazi agenda. I honestly don't get this.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

I'm not seeing any controversy here either. People use the restroom of the sex they identify with. Not a big deal.

 

[hashtag4]

I'm not seeing any controversy here either. People use the restroom of the sex they identify with. Not a big deal.

Stop peeing in my sink, because that's not a urinal!

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Stop peeing in my sink, because that's not a urinal!

You live thousands of miles away from me on a different continent.

 

[hashtag4]

I'm not seeing any controversy here either. People use the restroom of the sex they identify with. Not a big deal.

Stop slipping your cellphone under the stall to take underskirt pictures of me , you perv !

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Stop slipping your cellphone under the stall to take underskirt pictures of me , you perv !

Your skirt is up while you're in the stall?

 

[Tryharder62]

It's the old up toilet seat up and down toilet seat controversy. Is nothing sacred? Personally as long as I have a stall with a door I don't care who pees next to me.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

When I use a public restroom I mind my own business and hope that everyone else does the same. Also a person born without a penis who identifies as a male, would not use a urinal for reasons which should be obvious.

A person born with a penis who identifies as being a woman is not likely interested in drawing any attention to themselves and will enjoy the privacy of stalls just like real women.

So what's your problem?

 

[IrezumiKiss]

As most here know I am...an opponent of the gay agenda.

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Mark-Wahlberg-Confused-In-The-Happening.gif

not trying to turn this into a debate over...the feminazi agenda.

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They have agendas? What are those agendas, specifically?

And what's a "feminazi?" Feminists and Nazis can't exist in the same universe; their disparate beliefs and praxis doesn't allow for mixing, fusing or blending. They're like heavy water and almond butter. Or like seeing a Spider-Man and Batman team up on the big screen, which would mean some major canoodling going on between Marvel, Sony and Warner Bros.

 

[hashtag4]

Your skirt is up while you're in the stall?

On a more serious note:
I think that this debate has been rehashed like 10 times since I joined. Nevertheless:

Other than those clearly identified as transgenders by a multidisciplinary team (and that can only be done in certain setti gs like workplaces or schools),
I find it ludicrous to allow access to the shopping mall female toilets to any man who says: "let me in! Today I feel like a woman so let me in!"
How can they prove that? Carry a letter from their doctor to show he bathroom attendant who barely finished middle school?

Feminists fought hard for gender segregated toilets and they had good reasons for that.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Mark-Wahlberg-Confused-In-The-Happening.gif



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They have agendas? What are those agendas, specifically?

And what's a "feminazi?" Feminists and Nazis can't exist in the same universe; their disparate beliefs and praxis doesn't allow for mixing, fusing or blending. They're like heavy water and almond butter. Or like seeing a Spider-Man and Batman team up on the big screen, which would mean some major canoodling going on between Marvel, Sony and Warner Bros.

Thank science for comics.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/c3/c9/ee/c3c9ee1414907bf62f273bc6fa7b517c.jpg

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

On a more serious note:
I think that this debate has been rehashed like 10 times since I joined. Nevertheless:

Other than those clearly identified as transgenders by a multidisciplinary team (and that can only be done in certain setti gs like workplaces or schools),
I find it ludicrous to allow access to the shopping mall female toilets to any man who says: "let me in! Today I feel like a woman so let me in!"
How can they prove that? Carry a letter from their doctor to show he bathroom attendant who barely finished middle school?

Feminists fought hard for gender segregated toilets and they had good reasons for that.

I guess the mall can't prove it.

Do you have a cite to feminists fighting for segregated toilets? I'd like to read about that.

 

[hashtag4]

I guess the mall can't prove it.

Do you have a cite to feminists fighting for segregated toilets? I'd like to read about that.

Actually there is one somewhere.
During the former "debates" over the toilet agendas, I googled & came across a very good article abot this written by a sociology professor or something like that.
It placed it within many contexts, one of which being the one that I mentioned.
Plus Libsam made some very good comments about this.

I 'll try to find them & post the links to them.

 

[TwinkleStars]

No controversy that I can see. I think the media makes far too many people paranoid.

 

[hashtag4]

No controversy that I can see. I think the media makes far too many people paranoid.

Well, I might be over the top, but I personally get quite inhibitted when I poop in a toilet knowing that there's someone within a meter who has to witness (through various senses) all that. Even more mortifying if that person happens to be a guy.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Thank science for comics.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/c3/c9/ee/c3c9ee1414907bf62f273bc6fa7b517c.jpg

Heh. That's the one thing comics has over any movie. Possibilities are only as limited as one's drawing ability and imagination (plus copyrights!)

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[Noor]

I prefer a separate room for each person if possible.

 

[Noor]

I don't like urinals, the stuff they put in them makes me ill, so do those squirty things.

 

[TwinkleStars]

Well, I might be over the top, but I personally get quite inhibitted when I poop in a toilet knowing that there's someone within a meter who has to witness (through various senses) all that. Even more mortifying if that person happens to be a guy.

If it would bother you that much, it's easy to solve. Just don't go to a public toilet. If you have no choice, bring a strong air freshener and a boom box. Play "We Are The Champions" by Queen.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

I prefer a separate room for each person if possible.

You probably would've hated the infamous unisex bathroom at the old Spy Bar/Bar 89 back in the day. They were one-way see-through from the inside. But the stalls clouded over for privacy once you occupied them and locked the door, nobody could see you doing your business from the outside where the sinks were, even though it tricked your mind into thinking they were transparent because you could still see outside clearly.

http://nymag.com/images/2/daily/food/07/05/04_restroom_lg.w710.h473.jpg

 

[hashtag4]

If it would bother you that much, it's easy to solve. Just don't go to a public toilet.

And do my business where? Behind the bushes?

 

[TwinkleStars]

And do my business where? Behind the bushes?

I repeat...........If you have no choice, bring a strong air freshener and a boom box. Play "We Are The Champions" by Queen.

 

[hashtag4]

Bottomline;

The majority (as in heterosexuals, homosexuals, transgenders) want segregated toilets + a few separate toilets for the disabled or nursing mothers or for anyone else who has reservations about using the main toilets. Just like things are at the moment and things are working well.

A minority of people (heterosexuals, homosecuals, transgenders) want unisex toilets, and are expecting the majority to bend to their rules.
If they don't, they're either derrided or called homophobes.

So in order to prove to the 10% that we're not bigotted, we (the 90%) are expected to crap in the same toilet and sing the kumbaya.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Bothomline;

The majority (as in heterosexuals, homosexuals, transgenders) want segregated toilets + a separate toilet for the disabled or nursing mothers or for anyone else who has reservations about using the main toilets.

A minority of people (heterosexuals, homosecuals, transgenders) want unisex toilets, amd are expecting the majority to bend to their rules.
If they don't, they are either derrided or called homophobes.

So we're all expected to crap in the same toilet and sing the kumbaya.

Have a cite for any of this?

 

[hashtag4]

Have a cite for any of this?

oh boy..