Sen. Feinstein To Introduce "Assault Weapon" Ban

[miles]

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) vowed Sunday to introduce legislation to ban assault weapons at the start of the next Congress.
“I’m going to introduce in the Senate and the same bill will be introduced in the House, a bill to ban assault weapons. It will ban the sale, the transfer, the importation and the possession. Not retroactively but prospectively. And it will ban the same for big clips, drums or strips of more than 10 bullets. So there will be a bill. We’ve been working on it now for a year,” Feinstein said on NBC’s “Meet The Press” during a discussion about guns following Friday’s deadly mass shooting as a Connecticut school.

Feinstein said she was confident such a measure could pass. In a separate interview on Sunday, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said he too was was optimistic about the prospect of passing a gun control measure.

“I think we can get something done,” said Schumer on CBS’s “Face The Nation.” Schumer advocated focusing on three areas: Banning assault weapons, limiting the size of clips, and making it harder for “mentally unstable” individuals to obtain firearms.

(I'd prefer a ban on mentally unstable individuals running for political office.)

 

[phrodeau]

Please inform us why anyone besides law enforcement and military needs a gun that automatically reloads.

Semi-automatic, fully automatic, partially automatic or whatever fraction you want to call it, why do you need a gun that lets you shoot twice without re-aiming? Are you planning to miss?

 

[Bert Notorius]

Please inform us why anyone besides law enforcement and military needs a gun that automatically reloads.

Semi-automatic, fully automatic, partially automatic or whatever fraction you want to call it, why do you need a gun that lets you shoot twice without re-aiming? Are you planning to miss?

why would anyone want a car that parks itself?

 

[mercury14]

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) vowed Sunday to introduce legislation to ban assault weapons at the start of the next Congress.
“I’m going to introduce in the Senate and the same bill will be introduced in the House, a bill to ban assault weapons. It will ban the sale, the transfer, the importation and the possession. Not retroactively but prospectively. And it will ban the same for big clips, drums or strips of more than 10 bullets. So there will be a bill. We’ve been working on it now for a year,” Feinstein said on NBC’s “Meet The Press” during a discussion about guns following Friday’s deadly mass shooting as a Connecticut school.

Feinstein said she was confident such a measure could pass. In a separate interview on Sunday, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said he too was was optimistic about the prospect of passing a gun control measure.

“I think we can get something done,” said Schumer on CBS’s “Face The Nation.” Schumer advocated focusing on three areas: Banning assault weapons, limiting the size of clips, and making it harder for “mentally unstable” individuals to obtain firearms.

(I'd prefer a ban on mentally unstable individuals running for political office.)

Also you can't have a grenade launcher. Are you therefore less free?

 

[Adre]

why would anyone want a car that parks itself?

Not many people are killed parking a car.

 

[McKenna]

Also you can't have a grenade launcher. Are you therefore less free?

Not many people are killed parking a car.

I you people.

 

[phrodeau]

why would anyone want a car that parks itself?

No answer. I suppose your brain left.

 

[Bert Notorius]

Not many people are killed parking a car.

I you people.

No answer. I suppose your brain left.

so it's a question of numbers?

According to the 2007 Not-in-Traffic Surveillance (NiTS) system, an estimated 1,159 fatalities and 98,000 injuries occurred in nontraffic crashes such as single-vehicle crashes on private roads, collisions with pedestrians on driveways, and two-vehicle crashes in parking facilities

you're cold bastards.

 

[Bert Notorius]

why would anyone want a serrated knife? a plain old knife cuts just fine.

 

[miles]

Please inform us why anyone besides law enforcement and military needs a gun that automatically reloads.

Semi-automatic, fully automatic, partially automatic or whatever fraction you want to call it, why do you need a gun that lets you shoot twice without re-aiming? Are you planning to miss?

Fully automatic weapons are already illegal, genius.

 

[miles]

why would anyone want a serrated knife? a plain old knife cuts just fine.

Don't use logic. It makes liberals' heads hurt.

 

[phrodeau]

Fully automatic weapons are already illegal, genius.

Good start. What about the rest?

 

[Bert Notorius]

Don't use logic. It makes liberals' heads hurt.

we must save them from themselves.

 

[phrodeau]

Don't use logic. It makes liberals' heads hurt.

He never does.

 

[Ishmael]

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) vowed Sunday to introduce legislation to ban assault weapons at the start of the next Congress.
“I’m going to introduce in the Senate and the same bill will be introduced in the House, a bill to ban assault weapons. It will ban the sale, the transfer, the importation and the possession. Not retroactively but prospectively. And it will ban the same for big clips, drums or strips of more than 10 bullets. So there will be a bill. We’ve been working on it now for a year,” Feinstein said on NBC’s “Meet The Press” during a discussion about guns following Friday’s deadly mass shooting as a Connecticut school.

Feinstein said she was confident such a measure could pass. In a separate interview on Sunday, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said he too was was optimistic about the prospect of passing a gun control measure.

“I think we can get something done,” said Schumer on CBS’s “Face The Nation.” Schumer advocated focusing on three areas: Banning assault weapons, limiting the size of clips, and making it harder for “mentally unstable” individuals to obtain firearms.

(I'd prefer a ban on mentally unstable individuals running for political office.)

Well, we all know where DiFi is coming from. <shrug>

We tried the bans before and they had virtually no effect. They didn't even really ban 'assault weapons' in that those firearms are already highly restricted.

It's easy to get everyone on board re. the mental health issue. However, this is the one that is the element that contains within it the greatest potential for abuse. The problem with any such legislation is that it is based on what an individual might do. We already have thousands of veterans denied their 2nd amendment rights without due process based on nothing more than some arbitrary decision by some bureaucrat. In the broadest means of approaching the issue it has to be acknowledged that anyone might snap at anytime. Obviously one could craft a law requiring all prospective firearm owners to take a 'mental competency' test and then construct the test in such a way to virtually deny all applicants their rights. (A similar technique was used by the state of Mississippi to deny blacks voters registration back in the 'Jim Crow' days.)

And all of the above are going to be subject to incremental encroachment because people are still going to snap and they're going to use whatever they can get their hands on to carry out their mischief. So the legislators who feel compelled to 'do something' are going to introduce legislation to cover this case, and that case, and the other case, until such time as every potential case is covered which will necessarily deny everyone access to anything that might be construed as 'dangerous.'

And everyone, no matter your stance on firearms, should be very concerned about the mental stability testing and threshold. Because once they can apply a tool like that in the interest of 'public safety' there is nothing to stop them to applying the same rational to any other activity that may have an effect on public safety.

Ishmael

 

[miles]

we must save them from themselves.

Good luck with that. They can only be saved when they begin to save themselves.

 

[Bert Notorius]

He never does.

the liberal cause du jour is guns. fuck all those dead pedestrians.

 

[islandman]

One member of the NRA is of the same opinion as the Senator:

NRA member Sen. Manchin says Newtown shooting should open assault weapons debate

Manchin issued criticism of assault weapons, saying, "I don't know anyone in the sporting or hunting arena that goes out with an assault rifle. I don't know anybody that needs 30 rounds in a clip to go hunting. I mean, these are things that need to be talked about."

 

[Adre]

One member of the NRA is of the same opinion as the Senator:

NRA member Sen. Manchin says Newtown shooting should open assault weapons debate

Manchin issued criticism of assault weapons, saying, "I don't know anyone in the sporting or hunting arena that goes out with an assault rifle. I don't know anybody that needs 30 rounds in a clip to go hunting. I mean, these are things that need to be talked about."

Watch how quickly the NRA disowns him.

 

[Bert Notorius]

One member of the NRA is of the same opinion as the Senator:

NRA member Sen. Manchin says Newtown shooting should open assault weapons debate

Manchin issued criticism of assault weapons, saying, "I don't know anyone in the sporting or hunting arena that goes out with an assault rifle. I don't know anybody that needs 30 rounds in a clip to go hunting. I mean, these are things that need to be talked about."

Given that Manchin is a Republican, I wonder if miles' position on 'mentally unstable individual running for political office' still holds true.

i own guns and haven't been gun hunting in about 25 years. now they want to make full automatic weapons really, really, really illegal.

 

[cjh]

One member of the NRA is of the same opinion as the Senator:

NRA member Sen. Manchin says Newtown shooting should open assault weapons debate

Manchin issued criticism of assault weapons, saying, "I don't know anyone in the sporting or hunting arena that goes out with an assault rifle. I don't know anybody that needs 30 rounds in a clip to go hunting. I mean, these are things that need to be talked about."

Given that Manchin is a Republican, I wonder if miles' position on 'mentally unstable individual running for political office' still holds true.

A former adviser to Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign called Saturday for a concerted national conversation on gun control, saying the country cannot continue “doing nothing” after the elementary school shooting in Newtown, Conn., that left dozens dead, including 20 children.

Mark DeMoss, the Christian conservative public relations executive, told POLITICO that placing some limits on guns wouldn’t have to conflict with constitutional liberties, as many on the right contend.

“I’m a conservative and a Republican, and I believe in the Constitution and all of the amendments. But the reality is, there are restrictions on lots of our freedoms,” DeMoss said. “We cherish the freedom of speech, but it doesn’t give you the right to yell ‘fire’ in a crowded theater.”

DeMoss continued: “I have trouble defending a position that says there should be no restrictions on any guns or ammunition, and this slippery slope argument that if you allow the slightest bit of [gun] control, then that’s the start of taking away all our freedoms.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2012/12/romney-adviser-break-ranks-on-guns-85122.html#ixzz2FKM2zohU

 

[julybaby04]

Oh my.....those peacock feathers are being spread very broadly by those who are trying to be the "most caring" in the political world.

Just another day in the political life in America. Those leaders could care less about any of this. Whatever makes them "look" best and helps in the next election...THAT is what matters to these people.

If any of those cared (or anyone who lives in this country, for that matter), all of these bright and shiny arguments would be seen for what they were....just distractions.

 

[PoppingTom]

Politics should be forbiddeen and abolished, because it's only of liars.

 

[Liar]

One member of the NRA is of the same opinion as the Senator:

NRA member Sen. Manchin says Newtown shooting should open assault weapons debate

Manchin issued criticism of assault weapons, saying, "I don't know anyone in the sporting or hunting arena that goes out with an assault rifle. I don't know anybody that needs 30 rounds in a clip to go hunting. I mean, these are things that need to be talked about."

Given that Manchin is a Republican, I wonder if miles' position on 'mentally unstable individual running for political office' still holds true.

Manchin is not a Republican.

 

[islandman]

Manchin is not a Republican.

Dammit.

Correction implemented. Thanks.