Seattle judge issues restraining order blocking Trump's immigration ban

[Colonel Hogan]

What? No liberal victory dances? I thought you guys would be all over this. Doesn't anyone here watch the news anymore?

http://nypost.com/2017/02/03/seattle-judge-blocks-immigration-ban-after-boston-judge-refused-to-extend-stay/

 

[pointless]

it's friday night. i may have nothing fun to do, but that doesn't mean i'm watching the fucking news.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

it's friday night. i may have nothing fun to do, but that doesn't mean i'm watching the fucking news.

Awww, c'mon. I'm used to people fundamentally ignorant of law to go off half-cocked based on incomplete, oral injunctions not yet supported by a published, written opinion.

You're not gonna play?

 

[magicalmoments]

Clearly the good judge was ignorant of the bowling Green massacre or he probably would have endorsed the ban.

 

[mark_j]

What? No liberal victory dances? I thought you guys would be all over this. Doesn't anyone here watch the news anymore?

http://nypost.com/2017/02/03/seattle-judge-blocks-immigration-ban-after-boston-judge-refused-to-extend-stay/

Gov Inslee and sideshow Bob have been shopping this since the EO came out..

 

[renard_ruse]

Clearly the good judge was ignorant of the bowling Green massacre or he probably would have endorsed the ban.

You liberals do realize nobody listens to your daily internet circle jerk of non-sense you circulate amongst yourselves? If it makes you feel better to keep up the petty little verbal circle jerk every day, by all means please do, but keep in mind the overwhelming majority of people don't hear it and even less care about your little daily memes.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

It seems that the judiciary is now running the country.



The least harmful of the three branches, or so it was said, back at the inception...

 

[Ishmael]

It seems that the judiciary is now running the country.



The least harmful of the three branches, or so it was said, back at the inception...

Jefferson raised a red flag on the judiciary.

Ishmael

 

[Saint Peter]

dear lord,

Thank you for the checks and the balances.

love,
Pete

 

[butters]

let it play out in the courts and may sanity and decency trump trump.

 

[NOIRTRASH]

It seems that the judiciary is now running the country.



The least harmful of the three branches, or so it was said, back at the inception...

The courts try to run things but the executive, legislative, and judicial branches are separate and distinct animals. Judges aren't great minds. Theyre failed lawyers who cant work with their tools. They routinely make illegal orders. If they become dangerous the GOP will impeach a few or Trump will send the IRS to see t hem.

 

[Liar]

Awww, c'mon. I'm used to people fundamentally ignorant of law to go off half-cocked based on incomplete, oral injunctions not yet supported by a published, written opinion.

You're not gonna play?

I was waiting for your novel length essay about it, oh constitutional omniscience.

 

[Ishmael]

We'll see how this plays out. To the best of my knowledge non-citizens NOT on US soil have NO constitutional rights whatsoever...........none.

Further, the president has damn near unlimited powers to determine who can enter the country. This power was vested in the presidency by the immigration act of 1952. These powers extend up to, and including, stripping a naturalized citizen of their citizenship and kicking their ass out of the country.

Ishmael

 

[Pookie]

We'll see how this plays out. To the best of my knowledge non-citizens NOT on US soil have NO constitutional rights whatsoever...........none.

Further, the president has damn near unlimited powers to determine who can enter the country. This power was vested in the presidency by the immigration act of 1952. These powers extend up to, and including, stripping a naturalized citizen of their citizenship and kicking their ass out of the country.

Ishmael

It's a bit more complicated, with the court doing the stripping ...

http://immigration.findlaw.com/citizenship/can-your-u-s-citizenship-be-revoked-.html

The Denaturalization Process

Denaturalization, in which a naturalized citizen is stripped of his or her citizenship, is a process that occurs in federal court (typically in the district court where the defendant last resided) and follows the standard rules of federal civil court cases. As such, it is not an immigration case even though it affects immigration status.

Naturalized citizens found to be in violation of the terms of citizenship must leave the country. Children granted citizenship based on their parent's status may also lose their citizenship after that parent has been denaturalized.

As with any other civil case, the denaturalization process begins with a formal complaint against the defendant, who may respond to the complaint and defend himself or herself at trial (or hire an immigration attorney). The defendant has 60 days to file an answer to the complaint, where he or she may claim the action is based on wrong information or that the statute of limitations has expired, for example.

The U.S. government has a high bar for proving a defendant meets the criteria for denaturalization (a heavier burden of proof than most civil cases, but not as great a burden as criminal cases), according to the USCIS Adjudicator's Field Manual:

"Because citizenship is such a precious right, it cannot be taken away unless the government is able to meet a high burden of proof... Accordingly, a case should only be referred for denaturalization where there is objective evidence to establish that the individual was not eligible for naturalization, or procured naturalization by willful concealment or material misrepresentation."

 

[Ramone45]

We'll see how this plays out. To the best of my knowledge non-citizens NOT on US soil have NO constitutional rights whatsoever...........none.

Further, the president has damn near unlimited powers to determine who can enter the country. This power was vested in the presidency by the immigration act of 1952. These powers extend up to, and including, stripping a naturalized citizen of their citizenship and kicking their ass out of the country.

Ishmael

I'm under the impression that liberals think(or at least act) that every person have all the right s of the United States Constitution. They view it as a document that applies to the entire world, which is pretty audacious, considering the benefits were paid for by the blood of Americans.
The process of regulating immigration will play out naturally. I pray that the President is wrong, but God forbid there is another terrorist attack. The Judges and the liberals who fought immigration control will be held responsible.
I find it interesting that the general position of the immigrants and refugees coming to America is practically the exact opposite of American neo-liberalism. The tend to be religious conservatives(to say the least) who are not tolerant of diverse opinions and oppose the alphabet soup of sexual anomalies in modern America. Do liberals think that welcoming refugees will somehow make them warm and fuzzy? What are the unintended consequences of a liberal(Uncontrolled) immigration policy?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The courts try to run things but the executive, legislative, and judicial branches are separate and distinct animals. Judges aren't great minds. Theyre failed lawyers who cant work with their tools. They routinely make illegal orders. If they become dangerous the GOP will impeach a few or Trump will send the IRS to see t hem.

We'll see how this plays out. To the best of my knowledge non-citizens NOT on US soil have NO constitutional rights whatsoever...........none.

Further, the president has damn near unlimited powers to determine who can enter the country. This power was vested in the presidency by the immigration act of 1952. These powers extend up to, and including, stripping a naturalized citizen of their citizenship and kicking their ass out of the country.

Ishmael

This reminds me of Hoffer in his discussions on the machinations of the lesser intellectuals. In reading the news reports, it seems that this judge has not read the executive order or has taken a political stand to prove his bonafides to his peers.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I'm under the impression that liberals think(or at least act) that every person have all the right s of the United States Constitution. They view it as a document that applies to the entire world, which is pretty audacious, considering the benefits were paid for by the blood of Americans.
The process of regulating immigration will play out naturally. I pray that the President is wrong, but God forbid there is another terrorist attack. The Judges and the liberals who fought immigration control will be held responsible.
I find it interesting that the general position of the immigrants and refugees coming to America is practically the exact opposite of American neo-liberalism. The tend to be religious conservatives(to say the least) who are not tolerant of diverse opinions and oppose the alphabet soup of sexual anomalies in modern America. Do liberals think that welcoming refugees will somehow make them warm and fuzzy? What are the unintended consequences of a liberal(Uncontrolled) immigration policy?

I agree mostly with this.

The judge says the States are being harmed.

I wonder what he will say in the face of the next terrorist attack?

 

[Ishmael]

I'm under the impression that liberals think(or at least act) that every person have all the right s of the United States Constitution. They view it as a document that applies to the entire world, which is pretty audacious, considering the benefits were paid for by the blood of Americans.
The process of regulating immigration will play out naturally. I pray that the President is wrong, but God forbid there is another terrorist attack. The Judges and the liberals who fought immigration control will be held responsible.
I find it interesting that the general position of the immigrants and refugees coming to America is practically the exact opposite of American neo-liberalism. The tend to be religious conservatives(to say the least) who are not tolerant of diverse opinions and oppose the alphabet soup of sexual anomalies in modern America. Do liberals think that welcoming refugees will somehow make them warm and fuzzy? What are the unintended consequences of a liberal(Uncontrolled) immigration policy?

Let's just start with that one. Financial ruin is one of the unavoidable consequences. Without the selective admittance of productive individuals the 'social safety net' will drag us all down.

Ishmael

 

[Ishmael]

I agree mostly with this.

The judge says the States are being harmed.

I wonder what he will say in the face of the next terrorist attack?

I can't wait to read the written logic behind that. There is also the unspoken implication that the well being of any one particular state trumps (pun intended) the well being of the nation as a whole.

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I can't wait to read the written logic behind that. There is also the unspoken implication that the well being of any one particular state trumps (pun intended) the well being of the nation as a whole.

Ishmael

*chuckle*

If one State is harmed, then interstate commerce is harmed.

There's a clause for that, it's just not Santa...

 

[Ishmael]

*chuckle*

If one State is harmed, then interstate commerce is harmed.

There's a clause for that, it's just not Santa...

Except for the 'red' states.......fuck'em.

Ishmael

 

[Ramone45]

Let's just start with that one. Financial ruin is one of the unavoidable consequences. Without the selective admittance of productive individuals the 'social safety net' will drag us all down.

Ishmael

This is clearly true. There is that feeling among liberals and their leaders that is is un-fair that America is prosperous. Instead of building up and stabilizing the rest of the world, they want to bring a America down to the level of the third world.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

This is clearly true. There is that feeling among liberals and their leaders that is is un-fair that America is prosperous. Instead of building up and stabilizing the rest of the world, they want to bring a America down to the level of the third world.

Not unfair.

Prosperity can only be gained by exploitation.



Ask any millionaire Liberal in any category: business, entertainment, politics...,

 

[Liar]

We'll see how this plays out. To the best of my knowledge non-citizens NOT on US soil have NO constitutional rights whatsoever...........none.

Well, they have the constitutional rights of the country they're in...

 

[Ishmael]

This is clearly true. There is that feeling among liberals and their leaders that is is un-fair that America is prosperous. Instead of building up and stabilizing the rest of the world, they want to bring a America down to the level of the third world.

I think you have a firm grasp of the situation.

Ishmael