Scores change, vote count stays the same... huh?

[Mister_Chris]

Hi, everyone - on March 15, my story 'Milk and Cookies Ch 2' had a score of 4.54, with 39 votes. It had sat there for a while. The views count was 6948. (Those who read it, apparently liked it; but almost no one read it.)

Two days later, the views count is up to 7051, and I still have 39 votes... but the score has dropped to 4.51.

Anyone have any idea as to how that might happen? Can you change your vote after you cast it? Do the number of non-voting views figure into the score?

>MC

 

[SandraMustard]

Votes were swept and the same number of new votes were made but with different values than the ones swept.

 

[lovecraft68]

I agree with Sandra its not the same 39 votes.

 

[SandraMustard]

Because I have many stories and most have low vote counts, the votes come sporadically. Sweeps will occasionally take off one vote, maybe two. By the time I look, the vote count is back up but the score is different (up or down). I track my scores every two-weeks so I catch the changes.

 

[Mister_Chris]

Bizarre. I would have thought that a vote would be a vote. I could understand that the computer might discard a vote if it discovered the vote had a hanging chad, or something; but I wouldn't have thought that there would be a bunch of potential votes in a sack, just sitting around, that the computer could reach into and substitute for votes already cast.

Clearly I am far too innocent to understand the workings of the universe.

 

[sr71plt]

Uh, no. As the others posted, the Web site has a program of periodically sweeping away votes it considers fraudulent (and, no, it doesn't reveal how it decides a vote is fraudulent). So, what happened to you was that at least one vote was swept and then there just happened to be the exact number of new votes registered the next time you looked. Since your rating went down, the votes that were swept were high votes.

 

[SandraMustard]

The new vote was from a reader that just voted. It was a coincidence that you saw a net vote change of zero and it happens when you pay close attention to your numbers. Most authors never see the sweeps take away votes on their old stories because by the time they look, more new votes are added than swept votes removed. Occasionally, you will catch the vote total going down, ie. no new votes since a sweep.

 

[Mister_Chris]

Okay, fair enough. It just seemed odd to me that, given that no one had voted on the story for weeks, that one vote might be deleted by the computer and then, coincidentally, another person might have chosen to vote on the story immediately.

The math would indicate that a 5 vote was deleted and then, someone else voted a 4. On the same day. It just seems like an odd coincidence.

But, stranger things have happened. I suppose. Thanks, everyone, for the input.

I'm going to go back to my conspiracy table, carve strange symbols into the wooden top by the flickering candlelight, and mutter. A lot.

 

[lovecraft68]

Okay, fair enough. It just seemed odd to me that, given that no one had voted on the story for weeks, that one vote might be deleted by the computer and then, coincidentally, another person might have chosen to vote on the story immediately.

The math would indicate that a 5 vote was deleted and then, someone else voted a 4. On the same day. It just seems like an odd coincidence.

But, stranger things have happened. I suppose. Thanks, everyone, for the input.

I'm going to go back to my conspiracy table, carve strange symbols into the wooden top by the flickering candlelight, and mutter. A lot.

Don't forget the tinfoil hat!

 

[Mister_Chris]

Makes me wonder whether the computer looks at various parameters associated with the vote - the IP address, length of time spent reading the story, length of time spent on the site, other stories looked at, vote vs read spacing (did a whole whack of 5 votes come in all at once, or were they interspersed with reads?) and maybe other factors - and then tries to decide on the probability of a vote being genuine or fraudulent. Were that the case, it might have decided in the latest sweep that there was just an 80% likelihood of one of my votes being genuine, and thus downgraded a 5 vote to a 4.

Makes me wonder how one of my fraudulent votes got downgraded from 100% to just 80%. What the hell did I miss? All the other fraudulent fivers I submitted were accepted.

I have to go back to my conspiracy table now.

 

[sr71plt]

Makes me wonder if you're having trouble getting started on writing your next story and are procrastinating.

 

[lovecraft68]

Makes me wonder if you're having trouble getting started on writing your next story and are procrastinating.

Well if posting is procrastinating you won't write again for about a year

 

[sr71plt]

Well if posting is procrastinating you won't write again for about a year

Nope. Wrote a story today. And posted one today too, which you no doubt know, as it has a score of 3.00 here (and 4.8 at another site it's posted to).

So you're going to try to just shut all of the threads down by attacking me on all of them, I take it. What a sick puppy.

 

[lovecraft68]

Nope. Wrote a story today. And posted one today too, which you no doubt know, as it has a score of 3.00 here (and 4.8 at another site it's posted to).

So you're going to try to just shut all of the threads down by attacking me on all of them, I take it. What a sick puppy.

Then you should stick to the site that obviously has no taste.

And I don't bomb your stories, I wouldn't give you the courtesy of the view to do so,

But you're all over mine, aren't you anymouse? Don't think I know your snark by now?

I will only jab at you in a thread where you are being snarky to others so....I guess that might be every thread now wouldn't it mighty mouth?

And as we know, you are all mouth, aren't you?

 

[sr71plt]

Then you should stick to the site that obviously has no taste.

And I don't bomb your stories, I wouldn't give you the courtesy of the view to do so,

But you're all over mine, aren't you anymouse? Don't think I know your snark by now?

I will only jab at you in a thread where you are being snarky to others so....I guess that might be every thread now wouldn't it mighty mouth?

And as we know, you are all mouth, aren't you?

I wouldn't open any of your stories--for obvious reason.

You're really on a hate today, aren't you? Your sister rebuff you again?

So that would be a yes that you and your subs are going to just try to shut the whole discussion board down with your stalking, I guess. Good luck with that.

 

[Mister_Chris]

Makes me wonder if you're having trouble getting started on writing your next story and are procrastinating.

Yeah... I have one started. (Like, 500 words in.) Been in an awful lot of pain lately, and the meds keep me pretty worn out. But I'm doing better lately. I might have one more left in me. We'll see. Good luck on your work.

 

[Swilly]

I wouldn't open any of your stories--for obvious reason.

You're really on a hate today, aren't you? Your sister rebuff you again?

So that would be a yes that you and your subs are going to just try to shut the whole discussion board down with your stalking, I guess. Good luck with that.

Being rejected is something you're surely an expert at, Pilot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgBEhnZCJKc

 

[sr71plt]

Sorry, Swilly, I didn't read past word five of your rabid rant. You've got to be suffering from insecurity and jealousy to be stalking and attacking me as you and your gang banger friends do. I don't follow any of you around and rabidly chew on you. Actually, you're an example of a type of poster to writing discussion boards who wants to play king of the mountain and tear down with anyone posting there who actually is a published author. Nora Roberts who likes to play on social media speaks of this occasionally. You just have the "tear them down to my level" agenda. After years of this, I would think you and your friends would realize that all of this hatred and bile isn't going to work with me. But I guess you'd have to have some intelligence to figure that out.

So, I'll just lift my middle finger to you and you can sit on it and spin.

 

[Swilly]

Sorry, Swilly, I didn't read past word five of your rabid rant. You've got to be suffering from insecurity and jealousy to be stalking and attacking me as you and your gang banger friends do. I don't follow any of you around and rabidly chew on you. Actually, you're an example of a type of poster to writing discussion boards who wants to play king of the mountain and tear down with anyone posting there who actually is a published author. Nora Roberts who likes to play on social media speaks of this occasionally. You just have the "tear them down to my level" agenda. After years of this, I would think you and your friends would realize that all of this hatred and bile isn't going to work with me. But I guess you'd have to have some intelligence to figure that out.

So, I'll just lift my middle finger to you and you can sit on it and spin.

Ever wonder why it's you, dumbass? I'm no king of the mountain, and I've never claimed to be. If you have a "successful" writing career, good for you. Really.

I just point out that you act like an asshole. You're nasty and condescending, probably because you've sold some shit and are all impressed with yourself. You're not Stephen King, jerk off. Stop acting like a dick, and I'll stop pointing it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgBEhnZCJKc

 

[sr71plt]

I'm not even reading that one, Swilly. Just leaving you on ignore. You're a real sadsack and dirtbag to put this much energy into attacking someone who hasn't attacked you. One wonders why the hell you care this much. One also doesn't give a fuck about your petty fixations.

Tough on you. I'm going to continue to contribute here as I see fit and you can continue to rot from the inside, foam at the mouth, and join with your gang bangers to ruin thread after thread.

 

[Swilly]

I'm not even reading that one, Swilly. Just leaving you on ignore. You're a real sadsack and dirtbag to put this much energy into attacking someone who hasn't attacked you. One wonders why the hell you care this much. One also doesn't give a fuck about your petty fixations.

Tough on you. I'm going to continue to contribute here as I see fit and you can continue to rot from the inside, foam at the mouth, and join with your gang bangers to ruin thread after thread.

Funny. Your definition of contributing is to be demeaning to people. And here I didn't think you had a sense of humor. Lol. I was wrong.

ps Of course you read it. You can't help yourself.

pps Can you ever make a post and not edit it afterward? It's like you're in such a frenzy to get it out that you fuck it all up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgBEhnZCJKc

 

[lovecraft68]

Ever wonder why it's you, dumbass? I'm no king of the mountain, and I've never claimed to be. If you have a "successful" writing career, good for you. Really.

I just point out that you act like an asshole. You're nasty and condescending, probably because you've sold some shit and are all impressed with yourself. You're not Stephen King, jerk off. Stop acting like a dick, and I'll stop pointing it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgBEhnZCJKc

He's not acting.

This is how he contributes, this is his style of 'advice'

"YOu're a fucking moron, another literotica idiot who thinks they can right, but you can't, you're an idiot..."

Sighs.....

"But I'll come down from on high and give you some advice anyway."

That's Pilot's MO on advice

 

[AZMotherLover]

I'm not even reading that one, Swilly. Just leaving you on ignore. You're a real sadsack and dirtbag to put this much energy into attacking someone who hasn't attacked you. One wonders why the hell you care this much. One also doesn't give a fuck about your petty fixations.

Tough on you. I'm going to continue to contribute here as I see fit and you can continue to rot from the inside, foam at the mouth, and join with your gang bangers to ruin thread after thread.

http://img1.imagesbn.com/p/9780671027032_p0_v1_s260x420.JPG

 

[sr71plt]

Thanks for sharing.

But who would want to be friends with any of you hate-obsessed people?

 

[Swilly]

Lolz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgBEhnZCJKc