Scientology, Heavens Gate, And JonesTown.

Mike_Yates

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The three most famous cults ever to exist are #1 Scientology #2 Heavens-Gate and #3 Jonestown Cult.

Scientology Cult believes that 75 million years ago, an evil galactic overlord named Xenu, thought that the galaxy was too overpopulated with Aliens. So he gathered up TRILLIONS of aliens from all the planets, and flew them 250,000,000 lightyears in Lockheed DC-9 aircraft, which actually flew all that distance through space with conventional jet engines. from another galaxy to the Milky Way, and eventually to earth. There he brainwashed the aliens with false thoughts, and then he froze them, placed them in a volcano in Hawaii, and blew them up with hydrogen bombs. The "Alien Ghosts" called "Body Thetans" floated up into soul catchers. And then they were released, and they wandered the earth, attaching themselves to the bodies of pre-historic humans. And to this day, Body Thetans are causing our confusion, sadness, and all our problems. Thetans can be removed through something called "Auditing" or in other words, removal of thetans. The less thetans you have, the higher "OT Level" you have, and the more money you pay them (which in a lifetime, can add up to many hundreds of thoushands of dollars.) L Ron Hubbard was the only OT Level 8 ever to live. The less thetans, the happier you are! Scientology Cult expresses extremely violent, malevolent, physically and financially harmful, and often HOMICIDAL behavior. The cult can be linked to thousands of murders, disappearances, family-bankruptcies, and completely ruined lives. Many people who speak out against Scientology have had their pets killed, their children killed, husbands, wives, family memebers, etc etc etc.... Scientology is the most dangerous and insane cult that ever existed. L Ron Hubbard, who was a science-fiction writer. Created and made-up the religion on a bet, with another science fiction writer. for the sole purpose of making hundreds of millions of dollars. Scientology is a scam! Such celebrities as Tom Cruise, John Travolta, Leah Remini, etc etc.. Were approached by Scientology and "converted" so they could get publicity.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/5/5d/L_Ron_Hubbard.jpg

Heavens-Gate Cult believed that there was a UFO hiding behind Hale-Bopp Comet, that passed earth in 1997. If they killed themselves by drinking poisoned punch, their spirits would go up to the UFO and they would be saved from the end on of the world, and brought to paradise on an alien planet. They believed that Star-Trek was actually real. And the brainwashed Cult members wore black and white Nike shoes so they could run fast to catch up with the UFO. The Cult leader, Marshall Applewhite, who had a very extensive history of severe mental illness, including paranoid-schizophrenia, psychotic delusional, and post-pardom-psychosis. Cult members completely secluded themselves from society and their families. They believed that the government were actually aliens that wanted them dead, and they stocked up on hundreds of assault-rifles and other heavy weaponry to protect themselves against the "evil aliens" which were the US government and the general public. All 38 members committed suicide, some of them from drinking poisoned punch, others had plastic-bags put over their heads while they were asleep.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j246/crazyrick2k/Marshall20Applewhite.jpg

Jonestown Cult, lead by Jim Jones, was a large camp in Guyana Africa that consised of 1,700 cult members. Jim Jones, who believed that he himself was God! Brainwashed and controlled the minds of every single cult member, man, woman, and child. Jim Jones allowed 12 people to leave Jonestown, but as they were leaving Guyana in a Cessna, a jeep circled the plane, firing automatic weapons trying to kill the escaping cultists, killing a congressman and 1 other person. Jim Jones, thinking that the army of the african country he was in would invade Jonestown and arrest him and every cult member. Jim Jones ordered a mass-suicide to escape criminal prosecution, and also to ascend to a higher level of being. 1452 adults, and 248 children were poisoned to death. Buckets of Kool-Aid poisoned with Valiume and Syanide were brought to the camp. Hundreds died, and resistors were injected with the liquid and had it forced down their throat. Other brainwashed members drank it blindlessly as they watch their children die. Those who tried to run from the camp were shot and killed by camp guards. The incident and the bodies were discovered 2 years after the suicide in 1980. It remains the worst mass-suicide in all of recorded human history! Cult members, (including children) were often beaten and tortured.

http://jonestown.sdsu.edu/AboutJonestown/Gallery/G4/images/01-jones-jim.jpg

I'm making this thread to tell you about the dangers of cults. Don't ever join, or affiilate yourself with one. You will either end up bankrupt, or DEAD!

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I'm unsure whether to give you a B- or a D for this.

Which class is it for?
 
phrodeau said:
I'm unsure whether to give you a B- or a D for this.

Which class is it for?

Definitely a 'D'--the three most famous cults? Pfft.
 
CicatrixESP said:
Definitely a 'D'--the three most famous cults? Pfft.
Who knew that Heaven's Gate would leave the Moonies in the dust?
 
Not to mention the Masons...guess they're a bunch of toothless pups after all.
 
Mike_Yates said:
Scientology Cult believes that 75 million years ago, an evil galactic overlord named Xenu, thought that the galaxy was too overpopulated with Aliens. So he gathered up TRILLIONS of aliens from all the planets, and flew them 250,000,000 lightyears in Lockheed DC-9 aircraft, which actually flew all that distance through space with conventional jet engines. from another galaxy to the Milky Way, and eventually to earth. There he brainwashed the aliens with false thoughts, and then he froze them, placed them in a volcano in Hawaii, and blew them up with hydrogen bombs. The "Alien Ghosts" called "Body Thetans" floated up into soul catchers. And then they were released, and they wandered the earth, attaching themselves to the bodies of pre-historic humans. And to this day, Body Thetans are causing our confusion, sadness, and all our problems. Thetans can be removed through something called "Auditing" or in other words, removal of thetans. The less thetans you have, the higher "OT Level" you have, and the more money you pay them (which in a lifetime, can add up to many hundreds of thoushands of dollars.) L Ron Hubbard was the only OT Level 8 ever to live. The less thetans, the happier you are! Scientology Cult expresses extremely violent, malevolent, physically and financially harmful, and often HOMICIDAL behavior. The cult can be linked to thousands of murders, disappearances, family-bankruptcies, and completely ruined lives. Many people who speak out against Scientology have had their pets killed, their children killed, husbands, wives, family memebers, etc etc etc.... Scientology is the most dangerous and insane cult that ever existed. L Ron Hubbard, who was a science-fiction writer. Created and made-up the religion on a bet, with another science fiction writer. for the sole purpose of making hundreds of millions of dollars. Scientology is a scam! Such celebrities as Tom Cruise, John Travolta, Leah Remini, etc etc.. Were approached by Scientology and "converted" so they could get publicity.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/5/5d/L_Ron_Hubbard.jpg


On DC-9s???
 
Uh, check your facts again. Guyana is located on the northern coast of South America.

I had to chuckle seeing Scientology in the same sentence as Heaven's Gate and Jonestown! Thanks!
 
INeedLove said:
I had to chuckle seeing Scientology in the same sentence as Heaven's Gate and Jonestown! Thanks!

Seriously. Heaven's Gate and Jonestown are (EDIT: er, were) minor league cults compared to the Scientologists.
 
I still wonder about Heaven's Gate -- What if they were right, and the rest of us missed our chance to ride to paradise on Hale-Bopp?

We're well and truly fucked if that was the case.
 
It's very obvious you know nothing about Scientology. Hell I never considered becoming a member but I know that the horror stories you refer to are bullshit.
this part really made me laugh me ass off:

" Scientology Cult expresses extremely violent, malevolent, physically and financially harmful, and often HOMICIDAL behavior. The cult can be linked to thousands of murders, disappearances, family-bankruptcies, and completely ruined lives. Many people who speak out against Scientology have had their pets killed, their children killed, husbands, wives, family memebers, etc etc etc.... Scientology is the most dangerous and insane cult that ever existed."

Wow, more dangerous than the Branch Davidians? More dangerous even than the The Church of Christ, Scientist (Christian Science) who's denial of proper medical care has resulted in the deaths of numerous followers? More dangerous than the Manson Family?

Give me a fucking break already.
:rolleyes:
 
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Lasher said:
Seriously. Heaven's Gate and Jonestown are (EDIT: er, were) minor league cults compared to the Scientologists.

Not to mention that Heaven's Gate and Jonestown were both suicide cults and Scientology well, isn't..
 
Ulaven_Demorte said:
Wow, more dangerous than the Branch Davidians? More dangerous even than the The Church of Christ, Scientist (Christian Science) who's denial of proper medical care has resulted in the deaths of numerous followers? More dangerous than the Manson Family?

I'm pretty sure that Scientologists are more dangerous than the Branch Davidians and Manson family combined.
 
Ulaven_Demorte said:
Not to mention that Heaven's Gate and Jonestown were both suicide cults and Scientology well, isn't..

Tough to make money if you're dead.
 
The Thugees are gonna be pissed about not making the list.
 
Lasher said:
I'm pretty sure that Scientologists are more dangerous than the Branch Davidians and Manson family combined.

If you're going to define 'bad' as making money then nearly every religion on the face of the planet is 'bad'.

But seriously, how do you figure Scientologists are more dangerous than mass murdering fuckheads (Manson Family) and religious whacko David Koresh's Branch Davidians? I just have to hear this.
 
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Ulaven_Demorte said:
But seriously, how do you figure Scientologists are more dangerous than mass murdering fuckheads (Manson Family) and religious whacko David Koresh's Branch Davidians? I just have to hear this.

Is it really necessary to point out the obvious?
 
As long as unhappy, stupid people crave acceptance cults will thrive.

It amazes me that anyone has ever taken L. Ron Hubbard seriously as anything other than a writer of fiction. His lark being taken as a religion brings to mind the current furor over The Da Vinci Code.
 
I was involved with the Church of Scientology for years, and still apply quite a bit of it to my life.

From an insider's view, the media loves to blow things completely out of proportion.

I also get this view from the pagan community.

Amazing how a religion or philosophy that isn't mainstream becomes a cult and a target for the media and other religions.

If I hadn't been inside it, I wouldn't have believed it. Which is why I would suggest studying a few "fringe" groups in a lifetime to see how the "majority" treat them. It's enlightening.
 
Recidiva said:
I was involved with the Church of Scientology for years, and still apply quite a bit of it to my life.

From an insider's view, the media loves to blow things completely out of proportion.

I also get this view from the pagan community.

Amazing how a religion or philosophy that isn't mainstream becomes a cult and a target for the media and other religions.

If I hadn't been inside it, I wouldn't have believed it. Which is why I would suggest studying a few "fringe" groups in a lifetime to see how the "majority" treat them. It's enlightening.

It's also the way religion has always evolved, at least in America.

I took a really good religion class back in my undergrad days, called "Religious Sects in America" (not to be confused with "Religious Sex in America" in every case :) ).

It turned out to be a good class in the history of American religion. For, what you find is, every single denomination or movement began, at minimum, as a sect, where it's followers set themselves apart and conflict was created with the mainstream. The instructor provided a "family tree" from the Roman Catholic Church forward, and tied them all together. It was fascinating, plus you got to see where, not only the mainstream movements of today fragmented off of a parent denomination, but where today's so-called "fringe" religions developed.

That being said, I don't think we really found a place for Scientology in the tree. I wish I could find it.

By the way, sects become designated as "cults" when a new defining revelation is proposed that is seen as more authoritative than the existing one. That's kind of the dividing line.

I kind of like the "Sandwich" doctrine, myself.
 
hurricane64 said:
It's also the way religion has always evolved, at least in America.

I took a really good religion class back in my undergrad days, called "Religious Sects in America" (not to be confused with "Religious Sex in America" in every case :) ).

It turned out to be a good class in the history of American religion. For, what you find is, every single denomination or movement began, at minimum, as a sect, where it's followers set themselves apart and conflict was created with the mainstream. The instructor provided a "family tree" from the Roman Catholic Church forward, and tied them all together. It was fascinating, plus you got to see where, not only the mainstream movements of today fragmented off of a parent denomination, but where today's so-called "fringe" religions developed.

That being said, I don't think we really found a place for Scientology in the tree. I wish I could find it.

By the way, sects become designated as "cults" when a new defining revelation is proposed that is seen as more authoritative than the existing one. That's kind of the dividing line.

I kind of like the "Sandwich" doctrine, myself.

My main moments of "aha" came when I saw "Time" magazine do a huge cover story on how horrible Scientology was. The stuff they wrote about people I knew, people I saw every day, people whose kids I knew, decent folks. Made them look like monsters. I was appalled.

I'm not there any more, yes, most organized religions have some awful people.

If the only thing anyone ever heard about Catholics was the pedophile priests, things would be a bit different in their PR department also.

Some experience with the subject is required. I did my time and got to know Scientology and Scientologists. I get it.
 
Sounds every bit as plausible as Christianity to me...
 
You've an open forum Recidiva and freedom to speak.

What do Scientologists truly believe? Do they see Scientology as a religion (i.e. THE TRUTH and all other is not truth) or a guideline for living a better life? What is their view of Ron Hubbard?
 
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