Sci-Fi/Fantasy Chain Story Idea

deathlynx said:
Hmmm, it's possible that the "watchers" (*they need a name if we're flying with them) have some way to avoid genie detection...I was mostly thinking they opperate in crowds mostly where a genie would have to be actively searching for them to find 'em...and if they didn't know about them to begin with they couldn't search ;)
Of course out in a dessert would be the perfect way to slip up and reveal yourself to a genie...And this particular one could easily be one of the less benevolant ones, providing you with you antagonist...

And I must agree, this has been amazingly fun...I'm still not sure I could handle a more traditional chain story but this is perfect...I keep getting inspired for a new story before the previous is even fully written...Thank you so much for the concept!


(*"Society of Djiin" perhaps?)
I figured they'd be the descendents of the original jinn who started the genies...and it became their jobs to watch over the trinkets, but somehow some of them were stolen and they are trying to retrieve them before they fall into the wrong hands??
 
deathlynx said:
Hmmm, it's possible that the "watchers" (*they need a name if we're flying with them) have some way to avoid genie detection...I was mostly thinking they opperate in crowds mostly where a genie would have to be actively searching for them to find 'em...and if they didn't know about them to begin with they couldn't search ;)
Of course out in a dessert would be the perfect way to slip up and reveal yourself to a genie...And this particular one could easily be one of the less benevolant ones, providing you with you antagonist...

And I must agree, this has been amazingly fun...I'm still not sure I could handle a more traditional chain story but this is perfect...I keep getting inspired for a new story before the previous is even fully written...Thank you so much for the concept!


(*"Society of Djiin" perhaps?)


You are so welcome for the concept, but you are all making this a story worth telling and keeping it exciting and new. Thanks!

They do need a name and it looks like we may be going that way. I'd like the others to input if they get a chance. [



QUOTE=Daniellekitten]I figured they'd be the descendents of the original jinn who started the genies...and it became their jobs to watch over the trinkets, but somehow some of them were stolen and they are trying to retrieve them before they fall into the wrong hands??[/QUOTE]

This sounds good and I PM'd you my thoughts. Let me know what you think and then I'll either put it here or pitch it. :D
 
RedHairedandFriendly said:
You are so welcome for the concept, but you are all making this a story worth telling and keeping it exciting and new. Thanks!

They do need a name and it looks like we may be going that way. I'd like the others to input if they get a chance. [



QUOTE=Daniellekitten]I figured they'd be the descendents of the original jinn who started the genies...and it became their jobs to watch over the trinkets, but somehow some of them were stolen and they are trying to retrieve them before they fall into the wrong hands??

This sounds good and I PM'd you my thoughts. Let me know what you think and then I'll either put it here or pitch it. :D[/QUOTE]
As I said, it's very romantic, and I like the idea, but then why would the other genies know of them?
 
My thoughts that were to Danielle were that the young man who Laresa seemed to like in Chapt. 3 learned of what became of her and spent his life searching for her. He died in his quest, but left behind his son or sons, these knew his quest and continued the search.

Danielle added that he could be the founder and then they found out about others and began to watch and learn about them.
 
RedHairedandFriendly said:
My thoughts that were to Danielle were that the young man who Laresa seemed to like in Chapt. 3 learned of what became of her and spent his life searching for her. He died in his quest, but left behind his son or sons, these knew his quest and continued the search.

Danielle added that he could be the founder and then they found out about others and began to watch and learn about them.
Ooooh, I quite like that! It could also tie in nicely to the mysterious "rules" that changed...In Red's chapter you never really mention who it is that went about setting the rules...(although that could also be a divine thing)

As to how other genies would know about them? Well, they're only human, so they've probably slipped up a time or two...It wouldn't do to have them be quite as well known but Horace certainly cares enough for Laresa to let a hint or two slide, so that when she spots one the peices fall into place...Dolph, Horace, etc...
 
deathlynx said:
Ooooh, I quite like that! It could also tie in nicely to the mysterious "rules" that changed...In Red's chapter you never really mention who it is that went about setting the rules...(although that could also be a divine thing)

As to how other genies would know about them? Well, they're only human, so they've probably slipped up a time or two...It wouldn't do to have them be quite as well known but Horace certainly cares enough for Laresa to let a hint or two slide, so that when she spots one the peices fall into place...Dolph, Horace, etc...

You know. . .I wouldn't have to go back and add anything. My hint (thanks for reminding me of it. :) ) is already there.
 
I'll be hitting my email to read yours in a few Danielle - I'm badly in need of a nap. I'll catch up with the thread then too, my brain is just giving me the blue screen of death at the moment.
 
My next chapter is done...so if anyone can't make their date, I have mine sitting in my finished file, waiting to go.
 
Daniellekitten said:
My next chapter is done...so if anyone can't make their date, I have mine sitting in my finished file, waiting to go.

I'm half tempted to give you your original date back and try to get connected to mine so it hits harder. I still have a few days to get things working - I'm going to let it simmer for a while, and then come back to it and see if I can't find that weak thread.
 
Darkniciad said:
I'm half tempted to give you your original date back and try to get connected to mine so it hits harder. I still have a few days to get things working - I'm going to let it simmer for a while, and then come back to it and see if I can't find that weak thread.
Just give me a shout...did you get it? I sent it to you.
 
Daniellekitten said:
Just give me a shout...did you get it? I sent it to you.

Yep, waiting on some quiet time tonight to read it. I get too annoyed when I read your work and things are trying to distract me. I skimmed through it - and I'm chomping at the bit hoping my boy will take a nap this afternoon so I don't have to wait until tonight *laugh*

I have a few ideas about the weakness in mine, but I'm letting it simmer. I'm not touching it until at least tomorrow night. Not going to do it, I'm going to leave it be.

( I have trouble letting things simmer, can you tell? ;) )
 
Darkniciad said:
I'll get the violet reference in mine, as it has been a while since it cropped up. Probably have a shift in there when she transforms - as that has another reason for a color shift - then carry it over for a few moments on the transformation back ( going past my original ending with the changes I made in the rewrite )

I'm also going to tackle those eyelashes. I'm thinking about darker lashes, but with subtle, sparkling silver hints whenever the light hits them just right. Thoughts?

On the eyelashes: silver tips, you only see them when the light hits them just right?

Back to reading now. Haven't been around much the past week(s).

:eek:
 
deathlynx said:
Yeah, my thought had been about nothing but the genie's freedom as well...I'd also been thinking of (and discussing with Red) including an organization which compiles information on the various djiin...Sort of like the Watchers from Highlander: The Series...Possibly started by someone, way back in history, who had attempted to wish a genie free and failed...Then they spent the rest of their life trying to discover how, only to expand the search into an organization...

I like that, but I like Highlander too.

:D
 
I've been good and not touched the actual document, but I'm pretty sure I know what's wrong with my latest chapter now. There just isn't enough to my Master - not enough established about him to give that sense of resolution through his contact with Laresa. I'll keep letting it simmer, but I think that when I launch into that third draft, I might just have the key to bringing it up to par - if not reaching Outlaw.

I posted in a thread over in story feedback, listing another stolen story site. They have one of mine, at least two of Danielle's, and at least one of yours Red ( that I found ) Whoever it is appears to be posting several stories from Lit on a daily basis, uncredited. They are also obviously lazy, because they leave references ( and in the case of the snippetsville theft, broken images and links ) to Lit in the Author's notes.

Yet another lazy sack of parrot droppings trying to get something out of *our* work.

I already PMd Laurel, and Lit is on it ;)
 
Darkniciad said:
I've been good and not touched the actual document, but I'm pretty sure I know what's wrong with my latest chapter now. There just isn't enough to my Master - not enough established about him to give that sense of resolution through his contact with Laresa. I'll keep letting it simmer, but I think that when I launch into that third draft, I might just have the key to bringing it up to par - if not reaching Outlaw.

I posted in a thread over in story feedback, listing another stolen story site. They have one of mine, at least two of Danielle's, and at least one of yours Red ( that I found ) Whoever it is appears to be posting several stories from Lit on a daily basis, uncredited. They are also obviously lazy, because they leave references ( and in the case of the snippetsville theft, broken images and links ) to Lit in the Author's notes.

Yet another lazy sack of parrot droppings trying to get something out of *our* work.

I already PMd Laurel, and Lit is on it ;)


Thanks. :kiss: :kiss: I PM'd Laurel about a woman having a porn blog and posting full stories of some writers. I haven't heard back from her. There weren't a lot there, but still to me even if it is a blog you don't post the whole story, you give a link stating you like it. :rolleyes:
 
I found one in German with one of my stories and several other Lit stories on it, but they only posted a few paragraphs as a teaser, and the link for "more" led directly to Lit.

I consider that free advertising and perfectly acceptable :)
 
Darkniciad said:
I found one in German with one of my stories and several other Lit stories on it, but they only posted a few paragraphs as a teaser, and the link for "more" led directly to Lit.

I consider that free advertising and perfectly acceptable :)

Yeah, but this wasn't like that. This is the whole story, sure she left my name as the author, but no link to anything that has to deal with me or Lit. I chose who posts whole stories not just any random person. I don't know what if anything Laurel will do. I sent her the PM and like I said I haven't heard back from her. I did leave a message on the girl's blog to remove mine and she did. So I know that if it comes down to it the others can be notified and then post a message to her blog and get theirs removed.
 
Red said:
So, if we decide to introduce this group, do we have one or two writers focus on them and carry them through the story as they "observe" Laresa and follow people who the suspect to be Master/Mistress around? or do we all just post bits of observers in our stories?

I don't like the thought of all of us doing it, because it could very well distract from Laresa and her life and come across hectic and scattered. With one or two writers focused on this organization then it would come across more uniform.

These are just opinions, but things that we should address. If we go with this group, then I would think Horace would know about them. . .he's been around for a long time. So we need to get the feedback from as many writers as we can. (IMO)
I agree, the writing about this watchers should be limited to just a few of us.


Danielle said:
I figured they'd be the descendents of the original jinn who started the genies...and it became their jobs to watch over the trinkets, but somehow some of them were stolen and they are trying to retrieve them before they fall into the wrong hands??
Excellent idea. How about, they were horified to learn what happened to the sacrifices? Searching for the trinkets to make amends or something?

Red said:
My thoughts that were to Danielle were that the young man who Laresa seemed to like in Chapt. 3 learned of what became of her and spent his life searching for her. He died in his quest, but left behind his son or sons, these knew his quest and continued the search.

Danielle added that he could be the founder and then they found out about others and began to watch and learn about them.
Sounds good too, but I like the idea about the original creators of genie better.
Gives the story some dramatic body imo. And it leaves room for bad guys, those that are opposed to freeing the victims? Clinging to the old beliefs?

Djinn Seekers?

:cool:
 
RedHairedandFriendly said:
Yeah, but this wasn't like that. This is the whole story, sure she left my name as the author, but no link to anything that has to deal with me or Lit. I chose who posts whole stories not just any random person. I don't know what if anything Laurel will do. I sent her the PM and like I said I haven't heard back from her. I did leave a message on the girl's blog to remove mine and she did. So I know that if it comes down to it the others can be notified and then post a message to her blog and get theirs removed.
That is certainly a different story. Meself, I don't mind if the whole thing gets posted, so long as my name remains on it - linked back in an obvious manner to Lit or my website. I can certainly understand how you want to maintain complete control over who posts the whole text of your story, however :)

I'm going to work on that concordance for the time periods we've used now. I may need some input from the authors in a few places. We want to eliminate any possibility of paradox.

I'll get into the discussion of our "watchers" after I finish that ( any summary of the PMd discussions coming my way in a PM would be most welcome )
 
Black Tulip said:
I agree, the writing about this watchers should be limited to just a few of us.
Agreed. . .but I've not heard much from anyone else on that subject itself.

Excellent idea. How about, they were horified to learn what happened to the sacrifices? Searching for the trinkets to make amends or something?
I do like this idea, better than the young love idea.
Djinn Seekers?

:cool:

And this name is cool too, as is death's.
 
Darkniciad said:
That is certainly a different story. Meself, I don't mind if the whole thing gets posted, so long as my name remains on it - linked back in an obvious manner to Lit or my website. I can certainly understand how you want to maintain complete control over who posts the whole text of your story, however :)

I'm going to work on that concordance for the time periods we've used now. I may need some input from the authors in a few places. We want to eliminate any possibility of paradox.

I'll get into the discussion of our "watchers" after I finish that ( any summary of the PMd discussions coming my way in a PM would be most welcome )
I don't think her putting a link in would have been that hard, it is quite the porn blog, with links going everywhere. :rolleyes:
 
Laresa timing concordance

Adam:

??? - 1687 "several years" implies at least a decade to me, so 1677-1687. Thoughts on this Red?

It is mentioned that he did not summon her during the voyage at the beginning of the story, so this leaves it open that he might only bring her out rarely when other people are about. That, in turn, provides plenty of times she could be present elsewhere in this time period - limited paradox possibilities.

1832 - ??? ( See entry below in "Ryan" )

Ryan:

1832 -??? ( lead-in from "Adam" ) We're looking at about a hundred years here, because Danielle mentions that Laresa has not reached her peak in "a century's time" due to her previous Master being uncaring of her needs. So we're looking at the next start date for an end date.

The Master in question, to me, feels like the type who would have her out of the ring using her constantly. That presents a lot of paradox possibilities. *HOWEVER*, he is obviously wishing for health and longevity, in order to survive that long. He might not have wished for his mind to keep working right, however. So, we can assume that he went absent-minded later in life, refusing to admit it because he's an arrogant s.o.b. We also need to assume that he's commanded her not to pleasure herself while in his service to account for not "taking care of things" while she is resting in the ring and he is being absent minded. That gives us a fairly safe zone after about 1865, when he's too doddering to remember that he's even wearing the ring 90% of the time.

1929 - ??? The ending time here is left open, and not noted in the following chapter, so we have an open-ended time here. Thoughts about how he loses the ring, Danielle? And when?

Alex:

??? - ??? Okay, we have the 45th President, so that puts us with a start date of 2012 or 2016 for the Presidency, depending upon if the 44th gets a second term. Let's assume two terms, to give us a few more years leeway. He's been Governor before that, with Laresa aiding him, so we then backdate to 2012 for that, assuming that perhaps he found her in the campaign, we go back to 2011.

The ending is open, so we can have any number of possibilities about how he loses the ring eventually. Limited paradox potential here.

Famke:

??? - ??? We have a date of 835 that is a little more than a thousand years back from the start of the story, so we're later than 1835. The references in the story imply no later than the mid-1900's to me ( thoughts, Black Tulip? ) We'll want to push it to at least 1865 to give us some leeway from the ill-kempt cowbody in Adam/Ryan.

I end Famke's story in my chapter, so more there.

Clint:

??? - ??? I have Famke dying peacefully of old age, so we can assume around 50-80 years time here, from whatever the date range ends up being.

This presents paradox possibility in spades for the crowded 1800s - early 1900's, *but* we also have a Mistress who feels like someone that wouldn't be summoning Laresa on a daily basis, especially once she had a family as I gave her in the lead-in to my chapter. That opens up quite a few of those years, and should eliminate the paradox potential from current chapters.

1880-1890 We have some potential cross-over here, but I think we have it covered with the earlier suggestions in this crowded time period. These ten years should be avoided, however, as Clint probably would have had Laresa at his side for most of that decade, in my mind.

Christine:

1980/90's-??? Open-ended, but obviously modern. We could even assume here that Christine might see the potential for good in our President in Chapter 3 and have given him the ring, with the instructions, in hopes that he could make a difference in the world.

Chapter 7

1355-??? Safe start date, with an open ended conclusion. Thoughts on when/how the ring is lost, Severusmax? Regardless, we have limited potential conflict with existing chapters. We'll just need to watch the time period if setting other stories there.

Dolph

80's or 90's No worries here, the short time period eliminates any worries.

Hanna

2006 Hanna only has the ring for a partial year ( as my chapter's lead-in carries Hanna's story ) Very limited paradox potential there, just avoid 2006 and we're good.

James

1925-1928 Here we are in the crowded early 1900s again. Crossover with the cowboy ( explainable )

Overall

We want to avoid the 1800's and 1900's. Anything beyond 2006 is iffy as well, although we have a fairly safe zone between 2006 and 2011. The time before the 1800's has a lot of openings. I know my next idea is set way off in the far flung past, leaning toward over 3000 years ago ancient egypt.

As long as we keep the *locations* a good distance apart, we don't actually have a real paradox. Keeping the times apart is just an exercise in eliminating "Hey, wait a minute" from readers... and to keep the variety flowing :)

Feel free to post thoughts and clarification. I'll update this as we continue forward, and we can link to it in the guidelines.
 
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I had Famke starting in 1900.
The 835 was a bit off, should have been 900 but Laresa botched it.
She made a mistake because she was too eager to do her mistress' bidding.

:D

Oops! Did we cover the possibility of mistakes?
She is still young?

:eek:

ETA: dying of old age would have been at most 50 years later, hard life, not much medical care on an island, no helicopter ride into hospital back then. Say she was 20 when she found the ring.
Possible conflict with James: 1925?
 
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Added a few and brought up to date - please note red bold words - Thanks. :)

please note any added red line to this bunch of stuff - - I'll add key facts from author writer's work to this as the story goes. . .like a cheat sheet.

Please double check your chapter numbers when submitting your story. Thanks - Red. :) :kiss: :)

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Her Limits and some things she can do:

  • She's pretty much a slave with powers of a Genie and once the person loses the ring, they lose her.
  • We'll travel through time and space.
  • CAN'T alter major historical events.
  • She can't make anyone fall in love.
  • Can't bring back the dead, but if there is one breath left in the body, she can heal them.
  • A Genie only knows as much as they have seen, been taught, or are allowed through the powers of the rules/laws written long ago.


How does one lose her:

  • Lose the ring, have it stolen, and lie to her.
  • Lieing to her makes the ring disappear, into time or across space, up to the writer.
  • So lieing to her means the ring disappears, where it goes in time or space is up to you the writer.
  • Rules can not be revealed unless the Master/Mistress asks about them, or if the Genie likes a Master/Mistress, they can reveal them

Summening her:

  • Twisting the ring counter-clockwise by accident, and twisting it while whispering her name on purpose.
  • Laresa must recouperate inside the ring sometimes, when she becomes exhausted.
  • She is invisible to all, unless her Master/Mistress deems her visible. So far this has been implied in some stories.


Death/Freedom of a Genie & other oddities:

(this is a new category - - so it is open to discussion.)

  • A Genie doesn't know how they are ultimately set free.
  • A Master/Mistress can not "wish" their genie free.
  • Death of a genie - the destruction of the home (ring, bottle, medallion, bracelet. . .whatever they live in)
  • No more than two genies per Master/Mistress
  • Wishes that involve the actual desire of a Genie transcend from Master/Mistress throughout the genie's life. . . example. . . "I wish that you will not watch I Dream of Genie again," Red said. Well, from now on that Genie couldn't. . .but. . . "I wish you never to feed the hungry again," Red said. . . would be a wish that affected individuals, not the Genie itself. Does this make sense? **** Now... we should let these wishes be removed by other Masters/Mistresses, but only if they the Masters/Mistresses discover their Genie's been forced not to experience something.... OPINION PLEASE. :D


Anything else we can think of we can post here and I'll add.
 
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Black Tulip said:
Oops! Did we cover the possibility of mistakes?
She is still young?

No we didn't and I'm not sure if she would, but we didn't say anything about it after your chapter went up. So there is no real concern now, and the story was excellent.

I would say if a writer needs her to make a mistake, we keep them small and to a minimum, otherwise we could start dealing with a comedy, where she's messing up lots of little things, and that'll distract from the story.


ETA: dying of old age would have been at most 50 years later, hard life, not much medical care on an island, no helicopter ride into hospital back then. Say she was 20 when she found the ring.
Possible conflict with James: 1925?

I don't know about dying of old age. I kinda see the ring as prolonging her life by thousands of years, and aging very little or at all.
 
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