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Green_Gem

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I'm writing a story that makes reference to sailing and I need to know roughly how many different type of knots there are. And without getting too technical, are there any 'sexy' knots. You know those, that make tie-up games that little more titilating?

Thanks,

G_G;)
 
Green_Gem said:
I'm writing a story that makes reference to sailing and I need to know roughly how many different type of knots there are. And without getting too technical, are there any 'sexy' knots. You know those, that make tie-up games that little more titilating?

Thanks,

G_G;)

I've seen about a hundred different names for knots, but I only had to learn about 15-20 as a cub scout. Only about half of theknots I learned were "nautical" in nature -- the rest were "cowboy knots" and "lumberjack knots."

I don't think there are more than about a half-dozen knots that are used on a regular basis in sailing and only seriously obsessive sailor would know many more than those used regularly.

Youmight check for n online version of the Boy Scout Manual section on the knot tying merit badge -- If a knot isn't in that list, it probably isn't used more than once a century for any practical use.
 
Most nautical knotting references are petty much wortk fluff in real life. I have sailed boats all my life, and I've only really used five kind of knots. Sad to say, I have no idea what they are called in English.
 
couldn't you ask the BDSMers? Unless I'm completely loopy, I'm pretty sure they have a veritable culture about which knots they use and where they place them.

Gauche
 
According to the 1940 edition of the Blue Jackets' Manual (the U.S. Navy's basic Training bible) there are 58 different Knots a deck hand must know how to tie and when to choose each type.

None of them are listed as "sexy" but a few of them have common application in rope bondage.

A sheet-bend is used for connection of ropes of different thickness securely.

A figure 8 is a hitch which is easy to tie and takes up about an inch of rope with each one you tie, when you need to shorten a leader, but don't want to hack your rope to pieces.

The most complicated s the double carrick bend. It's a visually imposing knot, but not a whole lot more useful than a simple square knot.

There are several others, if you need information on a specfic, let me know.
-Colly
 
In sailing we only had to learn four knots: the square or reef knot, the figure-eight knot, the cleat hitch, and the "king of knots", the bowline (pronounced "bowlin'") The reason that sailors use so many exotic knots is that it's very important that a knot do two things: that it hold, and that it be easy to untie without jamming, even when wet or frozen. You don't want to be messing with trying to untie some jammed granny knot in the freezing rain when your boat's being blown towards some rocks.

Technically, a knot is tied in one piece of line. A bend is used to attach two lines to one another, and a hitch is used to attach a line to a post, thimble, or piece of standing rigging. Sailors never tie two lines together to make a longer line. They splice them.

Safe BDSM advises against using any knots, because if something should happen to the tier, the tie-ee is screwed. You lash someone's hands together by passing the rope around itself 4-5 times. Lashing can be unworked in a pinch, and lashings resist tightening under pressure. You never use a running knot, or one that tightens when pressure is applied, because the person can cut off circulation. If you did want to tie someone's hands, the knot of choice would be a square knot, which is very strong and very easy to untie.

---dr.M.
 
Run a Google search with "nautical knots." There a beaucoup, even scads of, entries.

RF
 
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Wow I am impressed!

I always knew you guys ( and gals - Colly) were more than just pretty faces with vivid and active imaginations. You know all kinds of stuff!!!

Thanks for all the information and Wills, thanks for the link. I got more info than I needed, but I learned a lot too.

G_G
 
A fetishist will see the beauty of a knot, and I would also suggest different cultures may have unique knots, but most rope bondage enthuiasts concentrate on tension, mobility, aesthetics etc..

Try searching for the fetish itself, online? Hitches seem most aesthetic to me?
 
I was into knots and rope and shiny hardware long before I even knew what sex was, and from what I hear, a lot of people into D/s are like this: they have the fetish before they even know what it's about.

I actually learned all those knots they taught me in boyscouts, and I've remembered a ridiculous number of them. But more than that, when I was a little kid I had a thing for chromed dog chains and heavy-duty clips and rings and the like. I had no idea why they apealed to me--a lot of men have a thing for hardware--I just thought they were cool.

And of course, whenever I saw a movie where a girl was tied up I got the strangest pre-adolescent thrills...

---dr.M.
 
dr_mabeuse said:
I was into knots and rope and shiny hardware long before I even knew what sex was, and from what I hear, a lot of people into D/s are like this: they have the fetish before they even know what it's about.

I actually learned all those knots they taught me in boyscouts, and I've remembered a ridiculous number of them. But more than that, when I was a little kid I had a thing for chromed dog chains and heavy-duty clips and rings and the like. I had no idea why they apealed to me--a lot of men have a thing for hardware--I just thought they were cool.

And of course, whenever I saw a movie where a girl was tied up I got the strangest pre-adolescent thrills...

---dr.M.

As always, your mind consistantly intrigues me :rose: Hardware - ya - I stayed out of those stores, many women do, was always in the art supply department but did sail alot - and god damn hated girl guides with a passion!!! Learning braids was not what I was after ;) lol
 
O, Charleygal, now I'm disappointed. I love hardware stores. There's a great one in SF and I only go when I don't need anything.

Perdita :(
 
Re: Wow I am impressed!

Green_Gem said:
I always knew you guys ( and gals - Colly) were more than just pretty faces with vivid and active imaginations. You know all kinds of stuff!!!

Thanks for all the information and Wills, thanks for the link. I got more info than I needed, but I learned a lot too.

G_G

:) I research everything in my stories, so my collection of books is so far on the edge of eclectic it borders on schizophrenic :)

-Colly
 
perdita said:
O, Charleygal, now I'm disappointed. I love hardware stores. There's a great one in SF and I only go when I don't need anything.

Perdita :(

Hardware has it's uses, but we don't need to go in there to see the big tools, or do we? LOL. . . and, what you like girl guides? Rowr. :D
 
The double clove hitch

I've always found that one sexy so to speak. Whenever I want to bind something that I'll need to adjust the tension on... (imagination hopefully running wild about now) that's the knot to use. Kind of like a fancy slip knot typically used to make adjustable tension slips on tent lines. Works great chuckle chuckle... Is also very effective for tying up a willing partner into the mystery of being bound.

JJ1
 
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Colleen Thomas said:
:) I research everything in my stories, so my collection of books is so far on the edge of eclectic it borders on schizophrenic :)

-Colly

See, you're so much more conscientious than I am. I never research anything in my stories, I just make it up as I go along. Although I did ask Mrs D for some advice on men's fashion for my latest lit story.
 
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