Safe Sex

[Babeslady]

I have to admit I am being a little lazy here because I know I have read a thread on this before but I can't find it now.

What is everyone's take on safe sex in their stories? If I am writing a story about a swinger's party for example and I am including an element of cum because that is the fantasy of one of the main characters is that bad because it wouldn't actually happen because of safety issues?

Do we have a responsibility to be realistic about safe sex.

 

[Darkniciad]

What we're writing is fiction, and in most cases, escapist fantasy.

At this point in time, anyone who doesn't understand the necessity of safe sex isn't going to learn it because you insert a condom into a story.

People are responsible for their own actions. We have no responsibility to be their babysitters.

 

[Dual_Triode]

There is a lengthy discussion on this topic in the SDC, here.

 

[JackLuis]

I have to admit I am being a little lazy here because I know I have read a thread on this before but I can't find it now.

What is everyone's take on safe sex in their stories? If I am writing a story about a swinger's party for example and I am including an element of cum because that is the fantasy of one of the main characters is that bad because it wouldn't actually happen because of safety issues?

Do we have a responsibility to be realistic about safe sex.

On the on hand, we should encourage folks to be prudent, I'm facing this in what I am currently not writing, But! what the hell? It's just fiction and why should we clutter up a perfectly good blow job scene, with a condom?

"The cum boiled forth from Bubba's cock in great spurts, Lois was unable to contain it all in her mouth as Bubba was jerking her by the hair and pumping for all he was worth, if his cock had been longer that 10 cm (~4inches) it might have stayed in her mouth instead of covering her cheek and dripping off her chin to her glorious rack swinging between his calves."

 

[sr71plt]

My take is that we all write differently and as long as we stay within the posting limits set by the Web site we can tend to our own stories and not tell others how to write theirs.

I sometimes write safe sex when it goes well with the story. When it doesn't matter, I don't refer to it. When unsafe sex or spontaneity is important to the story (or if there just doesn't happen to be a drug store handy out on the Russian steppes while Genghis Khan is raiding a village in one of my story), I explicitly don't include safe sex.

There's not much more nonerotic in an erotic story file than a visitation by the social services and morality police.

 

[JustaSCOUNDREL]

I have to admit I am being a little lazy here because I know I have read a thread on this before but I can't find it now.

What is everyone's take on safe sex in their stories? If I am writing a story about a swinger's party for example and I am including an element of cum because that is the fantasy of one of the main characters is that bad because it wouldn't actually happen because of safety issues?

Do we have a responsibility to be realistic about safe sex.

The short answer is NO. I wi9ll post a comment in any stories I submit between those in not in a relationship with each other that reads something like this.

"This is a fantasy. In my fantasy world there are no unwanted pregnancies or STDs."

Quite frankly it is not my responsibility to warn others of such situations or concerns.

Mike

 

[Boxlicker101]

On the on hand, we should encourage folks to be prudent, I'm facing this in what I am currently not writing, But! what the hell? It's just fiction and why should we clutter up a perfectly good blow job scene, with a condom?

"The cum boiled forth from Bubba's cock in great spurts, Lois was unable to contain it all in her mouth as Bubba was jerking her by the hair and pumping for all he was worth, if his cock had been longer that 10 cm (~4inches) it might have stayed in her mouth instead of covering her cheek and dripping off her chin to her glorious rack swinging between his calves."

My characters NEVER use condoms for oral sex, but they usually do for anal and vaginal sex. I think it's generally a good idea to encourage safe sex, which is why I do so in those instances.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Very few of my characters use them, although I do have one LW story that they do.

I just finished, actually it's already published at smashwords, where the characters either get checked once a month for all the little nasties or they have to use a condom. Most all of them are married and have only had relations with their spouse or members of the exclusive "Brotherhood" they belong to.

I also don't think it's up to us to educate the reader...if they don't know by now that it's bad to have unprotected sex with strangers then maybe momma better 'splain it to them.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I've used condoms as a plot device more than once-- in one story, the top tries to get the bottom to forget about using condoms, and the bottom insists on them even though he's afraid he'll lose his chance with this gorgeous guy. Its a defining moment for the character.

And Carlton Shepard made the lack of condoms into five chapters worth of UST...

 

[lovecraft68]

I have to admit I am being a little lazy here because I know I have read a thread on this before but I can't find it now.

What is everyone's take on safe sex in their stories? If I am writing a story about a swinger's party for example and I am including an element of cum because that is the fantasy of one of the main characters is that bad because it wouldn't actually happen because of safety issues?

Do we have a responsibility to be realistic about safe sex.

Depends on the scene. For thr most part I go with the fantasy aspect of no one ever worries about it.

Hpwever there have bee na couple of times I 've used it. For example when the main female character is working in a strip club and fucks one of th guys in the back room she puts one on him.

Sometimes I find myself letting litle details get to me, so what I have also done is render my female lead unable to have children so she never worries about getting pregnant. I don't think anyone reading would say "gee how come she never gets knocked up' but just one of those things.

 

[PennLady]

I think it's pretty much author's choice, and depends on how "real" you want your story to be. I've included it and not included it and sometimes it's a matter of I just don't think about it. I know some people think it detracts from the romance or eroticism, but it doesn't bother me. However, knowing it's fantasy and all, I'm also not bothered if condoms, etc., aren't mentioned.

 

[D_Lynn]

My take is that we all write differently and as long as we stay within the posting limits set by the Web site we can tend to our own stories and not tell others how to write theirs.

I sometimes write safe sex when it goes well with the story. When it doesn't matter, I don't refer to it. When unsafe sex or spontaneity is important to the story (or if there just doesn't happen to be a drug store handy out on the Russian steppes while Genghis Khan is raiding a village in one of my story), I explicitly don't include safe sex.

There's not much more nonerotic in an erotic story file than a visitation by the social services and morality police.

I just visualized this hilarious scene where the horde of raw, beastly vikings descend on this sleepy town to rape and pillage. Among the ghastly display of violence, one strapping man, pinning his prey beneath him, pauses just before penetration.
"The condom broke."
The young maiden, certain he would continue unfettered, sobs uncontrollably.
"Anyone bring an extra?"

Gerard suddenly blinks awake from his daydream. His computer screen flickering patiently, waiting for his response. God, I can't even have a decent fantasy without remembering the other night. It seemed nothing was going to erase his blunder with Jessica.


Sorry...go back to your regularly scheduled discussion while I quietly go sit in the corner with my coffee. I'll try to keep my twisted thoughts to myself.

By the way, I agree with everyone. Use them when it feels right to do so. Other times, don't.

 

[LucyH]

I don't think anybody has a responsibility to write about safe sex in erotica, but actually I get thrown by it sometimes when they don't. It bugs me to read a story where a couple of relatively intellignent modern people meet and suddenly fall in bed together a few minutes later without a single thought to, "what if?" or a reason why they shouldn't worry. Ok, maybe if they're drunk out of their gourds, I'd buy that, but if not, it makes me stop believing the characters so much.

And Carlton Shepard made the lack of condoms into five chapters worth of UST...

Definitely. I've done that too, though not for 5 chapters.

 

[soflabbwlvr]

I have used condoms where the situation absolutely required it--at a swinger's party or club, for example. My characters usually will inquire about birth control when the situation is spontaneous and they are hooking up for the first time. In some stories the woman is on the pill, but in others they have resorted to the unsafe but commonly used withdrawal method, or the male has climaxed in another orifice. In many cases, condoms are impractical, such as when characters are having sex in a hot tub or a mud pit. Pregnancy is a genuine hazard in my stories; diseases--not so much.

 

[christy1989]

What was that they told me in high school....Oh yeah....there is no such thing as safe sex. So I vote in fantasy land no condoms!!! The only reason I could think of for using a condom in a story is if the fantasy contained a character who desired to stick his cock into a disease infested vagina. Like maybe he wants a really nasty skank who has open sores with puss dripping out of them. Even then I would think he wouldn't want to use a condom - if that is the fantasy- but if he was married and trying to keep his spouse disease free.

But what do I know??? What don't answer that!

 

[beatrice_dreams]

When it comes to whether it's our responsibility or not, if it's in fantasy-land - probably not. I think whether you do bring it up or not has more to do with your characters and whether they are concerned by it or not, and that might depend on your genre too.

I tried writing the next part of my current story (a romance) without them discussing it, and it didn't make sense as they were both pretty conservative, normal, small-town people who would be a bit upset at an unwanted pregnancy.

 

[Babeslady]

I just visualized this hilarious scene where the horde of raw, beastly vikings descend on this sleepy town to rape and pillage. Among the ghastly display of violence, one strapping man, pinning his prey beneath him, pauses just before penetration.
"The condom broke."
The young maiden, certain he would continue unfettered, sobs uncontrollably.
"Anyone bring an extra?"

Gerard suddenly blinks awake from his daydream. His computer screen flickering patiently, waiting for his response. God, I can't even have a decent fantasy without remembering the other night. It seemed nothing was going to erase his blunder with Jessica.


Sorry...go back to your regularly scheduled discussion while I quietly go sit in the corner with my coffee. I'll try to keep my twisted thoughts to myself.

By the way, I agree with everyone. Use them when it feels right to do so. Other times, don't.

God that is funny. I would gladly read a whole book of that stuff. You have just made my day!

 

[autoplot]

I don't believe it's the responsibility of fiction, especially erotic fiction, to inform reality. So I don't write with any consideration for birth control. Other people disagree, and I can respect that, but I can't get behind the notion that neglecting to adhere to realism in erotica is somehow enabling irresonsible sex in the real world. I'm a fiction writer, not a sex ed teacher -- if people are coming to Literotica stories for guidance on how real sex ought to be, they're in deep shit IMO.

 

[SydneyBlake]

It depends on what your story calls for. My characters are healthcare professionals. It wouldn't be realistic if they weren't health conscious.

 

[jomar]

No, I don't bother with it, though I think in one story I mentioned in the author's note it was fiction so get over it.

Might be fun to write a farce about safe sex.

 

[electric1]

What we're writing is fiction, and in most cases, escapist fantasy.

At this point in time, anyone who doesn't understand the necessity of safe sex isn't going to learn it because you insert a condom into a story.

Well ... beer companies don't spend millions of dollars on commercials to inform us what beer is. They spend that money to encourage us to drink it. Likewise, an effective story can encourage people to be safe or encourage them to be unsafe.

If you're worried the condom might ruin the fantasy, here's an easy compromise: just mention the condom in one sentence. (For an example, read my story "Sandy's Taste Test," where I do that in the last few paragraphs.) The reader who is turned off by safe sex can just ignore that one little sentence the same way that, when I'm reading, I ignore a charcter's hair color if it doesn't happen to match the hair color of my fantasy lover. A detail mentioned briefly is easy to ignore.

If you really want to be responsible, though, work to make the condom-use sexy.

 

[sr71plt]

Well ... beer companies don't spend millions of dollars on commercials to inform us what beer is. They spend that money to encourage us to drink it. Likewise, an effective story can encourage people to be safe or encourage them to be unsafe.

If you're worried the condom might ruin the fantasy, here's an easy compromise: just mention the condom in one sentence. (For an example, read my story "Sandy's Taste Test," where I do that in the last few paragraphs.) The reader who is turned off by safe sex can just ignore that one little sentence the same way that, when I'm reading, I ignore a charcter's hair color if it doesn't happen to match the hair color of my fantasy lover. A detail mentioned briefly is easy to ignore.

If you really want to be responsible, though, work to make the condom-use sexy.

I expect my readers to have brains and take responsibility for themselves.

You can have the stupid ones.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I expect my readers to have brains and take responsibility for themselves.

You can have the stupid ones.

You get to pick and choose your readers?

How did you manage that!

 

[sr71plt]

You get to pick and choose your readers?

How did you manage that!

It's all in the wrist action.

But if someone chooses to read stories they object to, there's at least one dumb bunny sitting in their chair--and I'm not their babysitter.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Well ... beer companies don't spend millions of dollars on commercials to inform us what beer is. They spend that money to encourage us to drink it. Likewise, an effective story can encourage people to be safe or encourage them to be unsafe.

If you're worried the condom might ruin the fantasy, here's an easy compromise: just mention the condom in one sentence. (For an example, read my story "Sandy's Taste Test," where I do that in the last few paragraphs.) The reader who is turned off by safe sex can just ignore that one little sentence the same way that, when I'm reading, I ignore a charcter's hair color if it doesn't happen to match the hair color of my fantasy lover. A detail mentioned briefly is easy to ignore.

If you really want to be responsible, though, work to make the condom-use sexy.

Most of my stories include using condoms, and I often have the woman putting it on the man, after stroking his cock with her mouth to make it easy to roll on.