RIP Mandy Rice-Davies

[oggbashan]

Mandy Rice-Davies died today aged 70.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/09/30/article-2439545-041E39DB0000044D-291_306x423.jpg

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/profumo-sex-scandal-mandy-rice-davies-dies-091951199.html#WPXAxrc

Along with her friend Christine Keeler, the model and showgirl achieved notoriety in 1963 for her involvement in a sex and espionage scandal which led to the resignation of War Minister John Profumo and seriously discredited the Conservative government of Harold Macmillan.

Rice-Davies was also famous for her comment in court when told that a member of the House of Lords had denied he had ever met her.

To laughter in the court, she quipped: "He would, wouldn't he?"

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[Fata Morgana]

Just been watching that on the news.

 

[Sean]

There was an interview with her on R4 earlier this year. Entertaining lady.

 

[oggbashan]

She was an intelligent woman and a great conversationalist.

It is a pity that she became famous for the wrong reasons. After the Profumo scandal many of her former friends were frightened to be seen with her.

 

[cjh]

Wasn't a movie made that was roughly based on that scandal?

 

[Fata Morgana]

Wasn't a movie made that was roughly based on that scandal?

Scandal.

 

[Wrong Element]

Wasn't a movie made that was roughly based on that scandal?

It was actually called Scandal. I think Mandy Rice-Davies was the one played by Bridget Fonda.

So she was just 19 when all that went down? Wow.

 

[butters]

Wasn't a movie made that was roughly based on that scandal?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandal_(1989_film)
yup

 

[cjh]

Scandal.

That's it!

I knew the story sounded familiar.

 

[Fata Morgana]

Joanne Whalley was Christine Keeler. Not seen that for yonks.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Whats the 'right reason?'

 

[DesEsseintes]

Joanne Whalley was Christine Keeler. Not seen that for yonks.

And she was stupidly hot. I saw it by accident as a 15 year old boy, creeping downstairs to watch Eurotrash in silence. Because I had class.

Anyway, Scandal was on BBC2 and I fell in love with her. For those who haven't seen it.

RIP indeed, Ms. Rice-Davies.

 

[trysail]

Mandy Rice-Davies died today aged 70.

If you asked 10,000 people on the street who John Profumo was, you'd get a blank stare from 9,999 of 'em.

Very sadly, I suspect the same ratio would apply to a question about Kim Philby.


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[DesEsseintes]

If you asked 10,000 people on the street who John Profumo was, you'd get a blank stare from 9,999 of 'em.

Very sadly, I suspect the same ratio would apply to a question about Kim Philby.


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People are stupid shock.

 

[oggbashan]

If you asked 10,000 people on the street who John Profumo was, you'd get a blank stare from 9,999 of 'em.

Very sadly, I suspect the same ratio would apply to a question about Kim Philby.


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But I'm the exception who had met and spoken to John Profumo while he was still a Minister, and Mandy Rice-Davies (but I spoke to her years later).

Profumo had to resign, not because of his involvement with Christine, Mandy and the men, but because he lied in the House of Commons.

 

[Bad_Doggie]

If you asked 10,000 people on the street who John Profumo was, you'd get a blank stare from 9,999 of 'em.

Very sadly, I suspect the same ratio would apply to a question about Kim Philby.


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Depends on age.

Over 30ish nope.

Under 30 100%

Woof

 

[DesEsseintes]

But I'm the exception who had met and spoken to John Profumo while he was still a Minister, and Mandy Rice-Davies (but I spoke to her years later).

Profumo had to resign, not because of his involvement with Christine, Mandy and the men, but because he lied in the House of Commons.

And Profumo, famously, devoted himself to good works ever after and died fairly obscurely. A decent man, really.

 

[Mr Noone]

If you asked 10,000 people on the street who John Profumo was, you'd get a blank stare from 9,999 of 'em.

Very sadly, I suspect the same ratio would apply to a question about Kim Philby.


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But what of it? We don't "learn" anything from these scandals do we? I mean what is to be learned? Politicians shouldn't mess about with young women? Good luck with that.

You think Tony Blair didn't know the history of Afghanistan? You think G.W. Bush hasn't watched "The Princess Bride"? They knew the history of getting involved in a ground war in Asia. Knowing history doesn't change political hubris.

Depends on age.

Over 30ish nope.

Under 30 100%

Woof

I'd say 50.

 

[Desiremakesmeweak]

Yeah, well... I guess have just HAVE to say something on this.

There is no chance anymore of present day people knowing, or comprehending what really went on.

I have completely given up on going into any detail.

As some of you will be aware, I have mentioned before that I am a relative (although she is now deceased of course - she passed away on our estate in the Isle of Wight) of the one of the London City coronial medical examiners, whose nephew Stephen Ward happened to be. (Which ought to tell you that already that was something seriously amiss with the government's version of things).

I have come to the conclusion that it is a waste of time telling people anything these days - apparently Rupert Murdoch and all his ilk of political tacticians have a monopoly on truth and he certainly doesn't need actual verifiable sources. And besides, the public rush to swallow anything he says anyway.

"Congrats." btw, was the tweet he sent to his news people in Sydney, when they covered the story of the recent Martin Place killings and the deaths of at least two totally innocent bystanders.

 

[rimmy]

This seems apropos... http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=415512

 

[Noor]

If you asked 10,000 people on the street who John Profumo was, you'd get a blank stare from 9,999 of 'em.

Very sadly, I suspect the same ratio would apply to a question about Kim Philby.


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I know

Could they name the Cambridge 5?
Philby, Burgess, Blunt, Maclean and maybe Cairncross ?

Does anyone know who Ernest Rohm was and the Night of the Long Knives?

 

[oggbashan]

I know

Could they name the Cambridge 5?
Philby, Burgess, Blunt, Maclean and maybe Cairncross ?

Does anyone know who Ernest Rohm was and the Night of the Long Knives?

Rohm? Yes.

Night of the Long Knives? Yes.

I'll Add: Zimmermann Telegram; Protocols of the Elders of Zion; Dreyfus; The Diamond Necklace; Amy Robsart...?

 

[Desiremakesmeweak]

Harold St. John Bridger Philby - one of the founders of Saudi Arabia. Father of Kim Philby. Has (well, he himself is long deceased now of course!) existing half Arabic offspring in the ME, and South Africa, New Zealand and Australia.

Cousin was Viscount Montgomery.

Totally different breed to the clowns running Whitehall now. And possibly even back then, because in spite of the value and benefits to the United Kingdom of what he achieved, ultimately, his advice was not heeded.

Possibly the WORST calumny committed by that particular segment of British and American politics is the lumping into one, of the Israel-Rothschild connection with Anglo-American foreign policy; nothing could be further from the truth. Ibn Saud and the Rothschilds were close friends and allies - but most of the Sauds after Ibn Saud were corrupted and subverted by cynical parties who shall not be named by me. Even Jeckyll Island, nowadays a touchstone of some kind of conspiracy of bankers was subsequently overtaken by external forces - not Russians, not Jewish, and certainly not British either - who parade under a facade of Jewish Anglo-American identity.

All of this is way too complex for the contemporary mindsets of most people.

Roman Polanksi got it nearly or largely right in his fairly recent movie "The Ghost Writer," for which he paid a price. He blurs the lines between a multi-billion dollar weapons industry corporate(s) some academia and and the CIA, and points the finger at that 'entity.'