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[loquere]

Which I take as the author's "should of" problem not everyone else's that sticks with the author and as a lesson on thinking sharper during the writing process next time--or just doing it in some other story. Again, this is a free-read, not a critique, site or the New Yorker.

You are right. However you have to admit, Literotica is the Newyorker of erotica.

 

[sr71plt]

In what way, are hateful users being banished?

They've been banished from the GM in an earlier version of interventions. Here thus far it's been post erasings (which I think, in general, are fine even if I'd use different criteria in some cases--and I think would now have led to a much stronger and more fully used AH if they'd been instituted years ago), although they don't match the forum rules on what won't be done in an intervention. Maybe the forum rules will be revised (although I'm not holding my breath on that happening).

 

[legerdemer]

Yes, they're over the top in a religiously obsessive way. I'm not familiar with the new rules, where might I find them? Stricter rules would be necessary to limit the liability of Literotica, in a case of forum user suicide, due Harassment.

Here

 

[sr71plt]

You are right. However you have to admit, Literotica is the Newyorker of erotica.

No, I don't agree that Literotica is the New Yorker of erotica. There are paid sites that worry about story quality a whole lot more than Literotica does and have far more discerning readers than Literotica has. Literotica is more the Wal-Mart of erotica, which is not a bad thing.

That's a problem I see connected with editing minutia in a story here. It shows a disconnect in the author's understanding of what this site does/does not provide. This is not a high-quality site in terms of story quality. It is not a development or teaching site, and it doesn't claim or strive to be. Rejections come on very basic issues, not writing or storytelling quality. There's a lot of high-quality stories here, but that isn't because of what Literotica is; it's because of what some authors post to Literotica. This isn't a critique site or a subscription site stressing story quality. Those doing lots of fussing with their stories are misjudging the site and what the feedback here is doing in terms of their writing development. There's a whole lot of useless and damaging guidance given on a site like this.

Literotica makes no attempt to recruit high-quality writers that I know of. I've had four sites, including Gaydemon and Stickypen and two subscription sites, recruited me to write for them. I was invited to write here by another Lit. author, but when I did so I didn't kid myself on the quality of readership here (frankly, started posting here for a second storage site for my stories outside my own computer). I'm not aware of Literotica doing anything to raise the story content quality by inviting high-profile writers to write here. In fact, as discussed on another thread, when highly popular authors here have been harassed in the past and asked for help from admin, admin has waved "good-bye." That's fine as a site decision; that's not pursuing New Yorker status in erotica, though.

Literotica gives you more readers than anywhere else. They are just average Joe readers looking for a buzz on the whole, though, with no responsibility to help you develop as a writer. Most of them don't know any more about writing technique than you already do. But if you're after more readers, this is the place.

 

[loquere]

No, I don't agree that Literotica is the New Yorker of erotica. There are paid sites that worry about story quality a whole lot more than Literotica does and have far more discerning readers than Literotica has. Literotica is more the Wal-Mart of erotica, which is not a bad thing.

That's a problem I see connected with editing minutia in a story here. It shows a disconnect in the author's understanding of what this site does/does not provide. This is not a high-quality site in terms of story quality. It is not a development or teaching site, and it doesn't claim or strive to be. Rejections come on very basic issues, not writing or storytelling quality. There's a lot of high-quality stories here, but that isn't because of what Literotica is; it's because of what some authors post to Literotica. This isn't a critique site or a subscription site stressing story quality. Those doing lots of fussing with their stories are misjudging the site and what the feedback here is doing in terms of their writing development. There's a whole lot of useless and damaging guidance given on a site like this.

Literotica makes no attempt to recruit high-quality writers that I know of. I've had four sites, including Gaydemon and Stickypen and two subscription sites, recruited me to write for them. I was invited to write here by another Lit. author, but when I did so I didn't kid myself on the quality of readership here (frankly, started posting here for a second storage site for my stories outside my own computer). I'm not aware of Literotica doing anything to raise the story content quality by inviting high-profile writers to write here. In fact, as discussed on another thread, when highly popular authors here have been harassed in the past and asked for help from admin, admin has waved "good-bye." That's fine as a site decision; that's not pursuing New Yorker status in erotica, though.

Literotica gives you more readers than anywhere else. They are just average Joe readers looking for a buzz on the whole, though, with no responsibility to help you develop as a writer. Most of them don't know any more about writing technique than you already do. But if you're after more readers, this is the place.

I've seen a lot of other erotic sites paid and unpaid, and Lit is not perfect but it's by far, by far, by far the best. Being who I am I'm only on Lit because of its strict publishing guidelines. Literotica has the mediocre yes but it also has the great. Mind you the great stories are hard to find and they arent mine, but competition like that on lit turns the mediocre author into a great one, Literotica is a form of erotica capitalism through competition. If you spend the time scanning through that amazing Literotica search engine you'll come across stories secretly published by mainstream authors.

 

[sr71plt]

That doesn't negate anything I posted, I don't think. The subscription sites tend to review on story content/storytelling/technicals. Literotica doesn't. I think that alone deep sixes your proposition that Literotica is the New Yorker of erotica--and that your own posting contradicts that supposition as well. Doesn't bother (or convince) me that you choose to think otherwise. I just don't admit what you posted that I had to admit. On the contrary.

 

[wws_wws]

I've rewritten stories in the past, due to:


-Small plot flaw corrections
-My bad editing


However now I'd like to transform a few stories for bad conclusions, and others for an entire plot change requiring a complete rewrite.


What are some of the thing you may want to change in your stories, explain?

I find myself becoming very immersed into the world I've created with the one and only story I've posted on here. I've had the outline of the story written and "set in stone" so to speak from the very beginning. However, I find myself revisiting what was written often to flesh out the characters, smooth out some of the wording. I feel I'd jumped the gun in the past. Now I'm trying to write a more perfect chapter before posting. Of course it's delayed the publication of the final chapter, but hey! It is what it is. =) Glad you started this thread though. Cheers!

 

[loquere]

I find myself becoming very immersed into the world I've created with the one and only story I've posted on here. I've had the outline of the story written and "set in stone" so to speak from the very beginning. However, I find myself revisiting what was written often to flesh out the characters, smooth out some of the wording. I feel I'd jumped the gun in the past. Now I'm trying to write a more perfect chapter before posting. Of course it's delayed the publication of the final chapter, but hey! It is what it is. =) Glad you started this thread though. Cheers!

Thanks,

I never write an outline. When I actually do an outline I cant write it. Unlike an essay or thesis outline I'd typically do in the good old days.
However I have started stories, left them and have come back to finish them years later.

 

[sr71plt]

I write an outline--for nonfiction. I only write even a few notes on highlights of chapters for fiction if I'm writing a novel.

 

[loquere]

I write an outline--for nonfiction. I only write even a few notes on highlights of chapters for fiction if I'm writing a novel.

Writing a synopsis/outline simply kills my enthusiasm for writing the story. I think I write to get an idea from my mind to paper, if I do an outline it feels like mission accomplished.

 

[sr71plt]

Writing a synopsis/outline simply kills my enthusiasm for writing the story. I think I write to get an idea from my mind to paper, if I do an outline it feels like mission accomplished.

Ditto here. Sucks all of the life out of the discovery of what the story will end up being.

 

[_Lynn_]

Writing a synopsis/outline simply kills my enthusiasm for writing the story. I think I write to get an idea from my mind to paper, if I do an outline it feels like mission accomplished.

I agree with that. I made a complete outline with tons of notes for NaNo one year. Before the first chapter was done, the story wasn't going even close to what I planned.

 

[loquere]

Ditto here. Sucks all of the life out of the discovery of what the story will end up being.

Thank you sir, for confirming that im not just simply a mad man.

 

[loquere]

I agree with that. I made a complete outline with tons of notes for NaNo one year. Before the first chapter was done, the story wasn't going even close to what I planned.

Yes, I have everything visualized from start to end. Which is why I have to use specific descriptive words to match what's in my head. I sometimes grasp for an impossible perfection, in very finite phrases.

 

[loquere]

I actually just had a revelation, it's nostalgia.

I fantasize seeing that idea playout like a movie in my head for so long before writing it down, it becomes part of me.

When I finish writeing it well, it feels like I'm reliving a personal/private memory over again, but now it's permanent. It's an incredible feeling.

I once told my wife JOKINGLY. "I just finished editing my longest manuscript ever, now I know what birth feels like. Painful but sweet."


https://vimeo.com/20736616

PS: Sometimes that memory changes in my minds eye, and I feel the urg to make changes

 

[wws_wws]

I agree with that. I made a complete outline with tons of notes for NaNo one year. Before the first chapter was done, the story wasn't going even close to what I planned.

I'm in the minority here then. I write a rough outline of what happens first, second, then last. It helps me to keep track of what happened before, and keep the ideas from fading away. My memory isn't what it use to be. Plenty of good ideas faded with time till I just have an impression that it was even there. This being my first story, I need all the assistance I can get. =)

 

[Hypoxia]

Rewrites happen as I edit. I go over the text meticulously and then put it aside for a day or three and head back to it with hopefully-fresher eyes.

Now, when I finish something, it is done, ka-blooey. I may be tempted to fix obvious fuckups that slipped past my editing eye but I usually resist temptation. Better to move on to the next narrative.

I usually don't outline -- I have a pretty clear video playing inside my head -- but I'll list some plot points and timelines, especially on longer-duration sagas where I need to keep players' ages straight. If many players, I'll have a list of their basic characteristics.

Would I *like* to rewrite some of my stuff? Like I said, I'm tempted. The temptation is strongest with series I might combine into novels. Such rewrites would mostly be to fix continuity blips and remove redundant descriptions, not to re-tell the story. The story is done. Move on. Or write a sequel or prequel. I left room for a prequel to THE BOOK OF RUTH. Pray that I don't go down that path!