Republicans voting Democrat in '04

Problem Child

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I haven't decided which Democrat numbskull I'm gonna vote for yet. It looks like Kerry is gaining ground, so it'll probably be him. Yet, as we all know by witnessing the Dean meltdown, anything can happen. We shall see.

I was really hoping Jim Traficant would run for Pres, but then my hopes were dashed. He was always my favorite Democrat and all-time bad toupee' champion of the Free World. Now it looks like Kerry, Edwards or Dean. Drat.

Bush has just done too many dumb things, led us in generally the wrong direction. I'll keep my Republican registration (for now) but I'm voting for a schlub Democrat this time.

(I can hear my Dad rolling over in his, uh, place where his ashes are scattered...)

So who's with me, or are you all just a bunch of party hacks?
 
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Confused Independent voting Democrat here.

Holding out hope the Dem nominee will choose McCain as his VP, pipedream that it is.
 
Problem Child said:
I haven't decided which Democrat numbskull I'm gonna vote for yet. It looks like Kerry is gaining ground, so it'll probably be him. Yet, as we all know by witnessing the Dean meltdown, anything can happen. We shall see.

I was really hoping Jim Traficant would run for Pres, but then my hopes were dashed. He always my favorite Democrat and all-time bad toupee' champion of the Free World. Now it looks like Kerry, Edwards or Dean. Drat.

Bush has just done too many dumb things, led us in generally the wrong direction. I'll keep my Republican registration (for now) but I'm voting for a schlub Democrat this time.

(I can hear my Dad rolling over in his, uh, place where his ashes are scattered...)

So who's with me, or are you all just a bunch of party hacks?

I'm not a Republican, but rather a conservative Democrat who got really tired of the sheer stupidity of the way the party has handled elections and picked candidates for quite a while.

However, I am leaning about 80-20 towards voting for the Democratic candidate this election.

I will wait until the election to decide though. I want to see the detail behind the rhetoric of their platforms.
 
modest mouse said:
Confused Independent voting Democrat here.

Holding out hope the Dem nominee will choose McCain as his VP, pipedream that it is.

Wow, think of a McCain-Dean ticket and the anger there.


They'd box over differences in policy. McCain would mop the floor with Dean. The guy has stick arms.

Wait, McCain's arms barely even work. They'd have to have a head-butting contest.
 
Problem Child said:
Wait, McCain's arms barely even work. They'd have to have a head-butting contest.

McCain would drink a Dew and take Dean in round four.

Kerry-McCain would prove an interesting ticket.
 
Problem Child said:
I think we'd better find out if they'd let him sign legislation from the federal lock-up.

We'd have to talk to his campaign manager, ........Big Bubba.



I think McCain would be a great start to make some changes. I know he has special interests, they all do, but I think he has the integrity to keep it in perspective.
 
modest mouse said:
McCain would drink a Dew and take Dean in round four.

Kerry-McCain would prove an interesting ticket.

Jesus, talk about a war hero ticket.

Those two would seriously make Bush look like an AWOL pussy.
 
At this point I would vote for a yellow dog if I had to. I could stomach Kerry, though. So far. I think. I can still see Clark as a possible VP.
 
Harbinger said:
I think. I can still see Clark as a possible VP.

My thought was that Clark was settign himself up as the VP guy for whomever came out of the primaries. But imagine him as president of the Senate. He'd be terrible, wrong personality, wrong guy. He knows it and would almsot certainly decline an invitation to be VP.
 
Problem Child said:
Wow, think of a McCain-Dean ticket and the anger there.


They'd box over differences in policy. McCain would mop the floor with Dean. The guy has stick arms.

Wait, McCain's arms barely even work. They'd have to have a head-butting contest.

This would be funny were it not utterly frightening, lol. Maybe they'd just spontaneously combust....
 
Angeline said:
This would be funny were it not utterly frightening, lol. Maybe they'd just spontaneously combust....

I see them standing at opposite sides of the ring and screaming at each other seeing who could withstand the onslaught of flying saliva the longest...

sort of like the old "Morton Downey Jr. Show"
 
modest mouse said:
My thought was that Clark was settign himself up as the VP guy for whomever came out of the primaries. But imagine him as president of the Senate. He'd be terrible, wrong personality, wrong guy. He knows it and would almsot certainly decline an invitation to be VP.

Good point.
 
TWB had an interesting thread about Kerry that I read early this morning...

https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=223704

I definitely will need to do a little more research on Mr. Kerry. I think it is important that the Dems field a candidate that moderate republicans can tolerate. It would be nice to have a shift to moderation with a little fiscal conservation thrown in. I also have a need for integrity which is difficult to find in life long politicians.

Not that I would ever consider myself a republican or that I have ever voted a party line...
 
John Kerry's War Record
By Michael Benge
FrontPageMagazine.com | January 13, 2003


As Sen. John Kerry, Massachusetts Democrat, considers a bid for the White House, Americans should know a few things about him that he might prefer go unmentioned -- and I don't mean his $75 haircuts.

When Mr. Kerry pontificated at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial on Veterans Day, a group of veterans turned their backs on him and walked away. They remembered Mr. Kerry as the antiwar activist who testified before Congress during the war, accusing veterans of being war criminals. The dust jacket of Mr. Kerry's pro-Hanoi book, "The New Soldier," features a photograph of his ragged band of radicals mocking the US Marine Corps Memorial, which depicts the flag-raising on Iwo Jima, with an upside-down American flag. Retired Gen. George S. Patton III charged that Mr. Kerry's actions as an antiwar activist had "given aid and comfort to the enemy," as had the actions of Ramsey Clark and Jane Fonda. Also, Mr. Kerry lied when he threw what he claimed were his war medals over the White House fence; he later admitted they weren't his. Now they are displayed on his office wall.

Long after he changed sides in congressional hearings, Mr. Kerry lobbied for renewed trade relations with Hanoi. At the same time, his cousin C. Stewart Forbes, chief executive for Colliers International, assisted in brokering a $905 million deal to develop a deep-sea port at Vung Tau, Vietnam - an odd coincidence.

As noted in the Inside Politics column of Nov. 14 (Nation), historian Douglas Brinkley is writing Mr. Kerry's biography. Hopefully, he'll include the senator's latest ignominious feat: preventing the Vietnam Human Rights Act (HR2833) from coming to a vote in the Senate, claiming human rights would
deteriorate as a result. His actions sent a clear signal to Hanoi that Congress cares little about the human rights for which so many Americans fought and died.

The State Department ranked Vietnam among the 10 regimes worldwide least tolerant of religious freedom. Recently, 354 churches of the Montagnards, a Christian ethnic minority, were forcibly disbanded, and by mid-October, more than 50 Christian pastors and elders had been arrested in Dak Lak province alone. On Oct. 29, the secret police executed three Montagnards by lethal injection simply for protesting religious repression. The communists are conducting a pogrom against the Montagnards, forcing Christians to drink a mixture of goat's blood and alcohol and renounce Christianity. Thousands have been killed or imprisoned or have just "disappeared." The Montagnards lost one-half of their adult male population fighting for the United States, and without them, there might be thousands more American names on that somber black granite wall at the Vietnam memorial.

As Mr. Kerry contemplates a run for the presidency, people must remember that he has fought harder for Hanoi as an antiwar activist and a senator than he did against the Vietnamese communists while serving in the Navy in Vietnam.

Michael Benge is a Foreign Service officer and a former Vietnam POW (1968 to 1973)
 
John Kerry's War Record
By Michael Benge
FrontPageMagazine.com | January 13, 2003


As Sen. John Kerry, Massachusetts Democrat, considers a bid for the White House, Americans should know a few things about him that he might prefer go unmentioned -- and I don't mean his $75 haircuts.

When Mr. Kerry pontificated at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial on Veterans Day, a group of veterans turned their backs on him and walked away. They remembered Mr. Kerry as the antiwar activist who testified before Congress during the war, accusing veterans of being war criminals. The dust jacket of Mr. Kerry's pro-Hanoi book, "The New Soldier," features a photograph of his ragged band of radicals mocking the US Marine Corps Memorial, which depicts the flag-raising on Iwo Jima, with an upside-down American flag. Retired Gen. George S. Patton III charged that Mr. Kerry's actions as an antiwar activist had "given aid and comfort to the enemy," as had the actions of Ramsey Clark and Jane Fonda. Also, Mr. Kerry lied when he threw what he claimed were his war medals over the White House fence; he later admitted they weren't his. Now they are displayed on his office wall.

Long after he changed sides in congressional hearings, Mr. Kerry lobbied for renewed trade relations with Hanoi. At the same time, his cousin C. Stewart Forbes, chief executive for Colliers International, assisted in brokering a $905 million deal to develop a deep-sea port at Vung Tau, Vietnam - an odd coincidence.

As noted in the Inside Politics column of Nov. 14 (Nation), historian Douglas Brinkley is writing Mr. Kerry's biography. Hopefully, he'll include the senator's latest ignominious feat: preventing the Vietnam Human Rights Act (HR2833) from coming to a vote in the Senate, claiming human rights would
deteriorate as a result. His actions sent a clear signal to Hanoi that Congress cares little about the human rights for which so many Americans fought and died.

The State Department ranked Vietnam among the 10 regimes worldwide least tolerant of religious freedom. Recently, 354 churches of the Montagnards, a Christian ethnic minority, were forcibly disbanded, and by mid-October, more than 50 Christian pastors and elders had been arrested in Dak Lak province alone. On Oct. 29, the secret police executed three Montagnards by lethal injection simply for protesting religious repression. The communists are conducting a pogrom against the Montagnards, forcing Christians to drink a mixture of goat's blood and alcohol and renounce Christianity. Thousands have been killed or imprisoned or have just "disappeared." The Montagnards lost one-half of their adult male population fighting for the United States, and without them, there might be thousands more American names on that somber black granite wall at the Vietnam memorial.

As Mr. Kerry contemplates a run for the presidency, people must remember that he has fought harder for Hanoi as an antiwar activist and a senator than he did against the Vietnamese communists while serving in the Navy in Vietnam.

Michael Benge is a Foreign Service officer and a former Vietnam POW (1968 to 1973)
 
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