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Republican war on the Middle Class: what's next?

overthebow

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The end goal is to get rid of political power for the middle class. Republicans are going after unions for public workers now.

What's next?
 
You need to define 'middle-class' correctly. Strictly speaking the middle-class have no supervisors. If someone besides you gives you a paycheck youre a peasant....regardless of what you earn. A nurse is a peasant, an MD is middle-class. If your income comes from investments, dividends, and interest...youre upper class.
 
vetteman said:
Damn straight, bought time somebody put a stop to their looting spree of the state treasuries. That is the end goal. You see the taxpayer has more of a right to what's left of their earnings than public employees have a right to a job.
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The middle class is looting the treasury. Is that what you are saying, Vman?
 
Unions are and always have been a joke; a rebirth of the feudal medieveal 'guild' system, that benefitted selected workers and left the common man to the mercies of begging from the unionized and theocratic rulers.

"Right to work" should be the rule across the board.

No Union should be able to force a worker to pay dues.

Amicus
 
vetteman said:
No, I'm saying the public employee unions are looting the state treasuries. I don't consider them the true "Middle Class," they produce nothing for sale, and are a dead liability on the economy.
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They produce services, and the way those services are distributed is without being 'sold'. You assume that everything must be 'sold'. This is a false assumption.
 
Unions were a good thing but there came a point where they became too powerful - more powerful than their employers. Unions were meant to even out the playing field and give some power to the workers to make things more fair. It defeats the purpose of things being "fair" if unions have more power than the employers do.

Liberals have to realize that they don't elect people to office and Conservatives have to realize the same thing. It is the moderates and Independants who elect people to office. Independants and moderates sent a strong message to Conservatives by electing Obama president a few years ago. Unfortunately the Liberals didn't understand the message and the Independants and Moderates had to send another message to the Liberals in the last election. The main message is GET THE BUDGET UNDER CONTROL AND QUIT WITH THE TAX AND SPEND POLICIES!
 
vetteman said:
You'd do poorly too if you had the fruits of your labor taxed away and eroded by inflation.
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I'm glad that you finally get my point and agree with me.

The tax burden has been shifted to middle and lower income classes. It isn't the total amount of tax, but who pays it that is the problem.
 
overthebow said:
The end goal is to get rid of political power for the middle class. Republicans are going after unions for public workers now.

What's next?
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The Republicans are trying to RESCUE the middle class from the clutches of the money grubbing rent-seeking shysters of the democrat party. Lets make our economy and our culture free and open to anyone who wants to give it a shot and work hard and make a difference.
 
vetteman said:
Look, get real. The top one percent are paying 40 some percent of tax revenue. You have half the country not paying any income taxes. The fact that Middle class gets clobbered with taxes is a simple matter of demographic reality, a matter of arithmetic.
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You claim to have 5 cars and a $500.00 a month electric bill. What the fuck do you care about the middle class? And please explain how a public school teacher making $60,000 a year isn't "middle class" according to you.
 
Someone needs to define middle class because it's all over the place. I don't see government workers as middle class.
 
vetteman said:
Look, get real. The top one percent are paying 40 some percent of tax revenue. You have half the country not paying any income taxes. The fact that Middle class gets clobbered with taxes is a simple matter of demographic reality, a matter of arithmetic.
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From the link I posted earlier in this thread:

Yearly Income:
Top .01% - $27,342,212
Top .01% - 1% - $3,238,386
Top 1% -$1,137,684
Top 1-10% - $164,647
Bottom 90% - $31,244

So whom did the Bush tax cuts help?
 
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