Republican Party sliding towards Facism

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What are the warning signs of Facism ?


It all began, when Jeb Bush, and allies of G.W. Bush, made arrangements to steal an election away from the American people, and convinced the people who were robbed, to go away quietly," for the Good of the Country."

The next move was to have the people of America pay for the mistakes of Wall Street and the International Banking community, for the Good of the Country.

The cultivation of hate and fear-

"Maybe he should have been roughed up, because it was absolutely disgusting what he was doing,” Trump said on the Fox News Channel on Sunday morning. “I have a lot of fans, and they were not happy about it. And this was a very obnoxious guy who was a troublemaker who was looking to make trouble."

-Donald Trump


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-punched-at-donald-trump-rally-in-birmingham/


https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...3e7f3a-913f-11e5-a2d6-f57908580b1f_story.html


Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump (yes, him again) re-tweeted racist graphic.


Completely false statistics. These statistics are made up out of thin air, and the source — the “Crime Statistics Bureau” in San Francisco — simply does not exist.

Actual statistics are from the FBI.


Where did Trump find the fictional statistics ?

From an entity that hates minorities, is a racist and a bigot.
From an entity that has love for White races, and no one else.
From an entity that equates acceptance for all races all religions,
as the extinction of White culture.


http://littlegreenfootballs.com/art..._Donald_Trumps_Black_Crimes_Graphic_Came_From


The idea, that there was an event, where there were "thousands and thousands” of Muslims celebrating in Jersey City, is a false claim by Donald Trump


Trump Insists He Saw Arabs Cheering in New Jersey on 9/11, Says He’ll Bring Back Waterboarding

"There were people that were cheering on the other side of New Jersey where you have large Arab populations."


"They were cheering as the World Trade Center came down. I know it might be not politically correct for you to talk about it, but there were people cheering as that building came down -- as those buildings came down, and that tells you something. It was well covered at the time."


-Donald Trump


Is someone keeping track of Trump's lies ?

People speak up with the truth, after each lie Trump tells-


Jersey City Mayor Steven Fulop said Trump "has memory issues or willfully distorts the truth, either of which should be concerning for the Republican Party."

"Trump is plain wrong, and he is shamefully politicizing an emotionally charged issue. No one in Jersey City cheered on September 11th," Fulop said. "We were actually among the first to provide responders to help in lower Manhattan. Trump needs to understand that Jersey City will not be part of his hate campaign."


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-cheering-jersey-911/story?id=35355447



Donald Trump would “absolutely” bring back waterboarding as an accepted form of interrogation, he said today on ABC’s “This Week.”

Trump characterized waterboarding as a form of “strong interrogation” that is “peanuts” when compared to tactics used by ISIS against its hostages.

“I think waterboarding is peanuts compared to what they do to us,” the Republican presidential candidate said. “What they're doing to us, what they did to James Foley when they chopped off his head, that’s a whole different level and I would absolutely bring back interrogation and strong interrogation.


http://littlegreenfootballs.com/art..._Stop_Lying_Right_Wingers.#hpaw75favIUScCbW.9
 
Trump is a Clinton mole! He is only there to destroy any credibility of the Republicans. It's the only answer.

The Republicans want to elect a Canadian/Cuban communist non-American as POTUS. Can't be out done by the Dems with their Kawaii/Kenyan Muslim non-American!

But Cruz is an agent of the Canadian Foreign Intelligence Ministry under very very deep cover.
 
Trump is a Clinton mole! He is only there to destroy any credibility of the Republicans. It's the only answer.

The Republicans want to elect a Canadian/Cuban communist non-American as POTUS. Can't be out done by the Dems with their Kawaii/Kenyan Muslim non-American!

But Cruz is an agent of the Canadian Foreign Intelligence Ministry under very very deep cover.

The fascinating thing about the "Trump is a Clinton mole" theory is that it is so completely inconsistent with what so many of his followers like about Trump: the size of his ego and his claim that he can't be bought. Both of these strengths - as so many Republicans believe about him - directly contradict the likelihood that Trump would go along with any plan created by anyone beside himself to do anything. Donald Trump is a classic narcissist who would not be able to imagine himself being a follower.

The second fascinating element of this theory is that many of the same people who are saying that they'd rather see Trump negotiating with Vladimir Putin than any Democrat are the same people willing to believe that he couldn't out-negotiate the hated Bill Clinton. Does. Not. Compute.
 
The fascinating thing about the "Trump is a Clinton mole" theory is that it is so completely inconsistent with what so many of his followers like about Trump: the size of his ego and his claim that he can't be bought. Both of these strengths - as so many Republicans believe about him - directly contradict the likelihood that Trump would go along with any plan created by anyone beside himself to do anything. Donald Trump is a classic narcissist who would not be able to imagine himself being a follower.

The second fascinating element of this theory is that many of the same people who are saying that they'd rather see Trump negotiating with Vladimir Putin than any Democrat are the same people willing to believe that he couldn't out-negotiate the hated Bill Clinton. Does. Not. Compute.

The theories running aren't that Clinton bought Trump but that he played the man's limitless ego, vanity, and disillusion. Not that I believe that was done; it's just so amusing to contemplate.
 
And the RW blames the liberal media.

But less that 24 hours after the incident happened, the right-wing media was already in full don’t-believe-your-lying-eyes mode. As Callum Borchers at the Washington Post reports, multiple right wing “news” sites are already spinning conspiracy theories about how that wicked liberal media is lying to you about what happened. According to Breitbart, the mob of people surrounding this man are, at best, acting in self-defense. (Because we’re meant to believe that people who are afraid of Syrian orphans run towards perceived danger as an act of self-defense.)

At Rise News, the claim is, “Many in the crowd told the man to calm down and told him that all lives mattered.” While it is technically true that “all lives matter” was stated, if you watch the video, it’s clear that it’s not exactly being used to soothe anyone, but is something that some white dude is screaming over and over and over at Southall, clearly to push the notion that Black Lives Matter is somehow opposed to white people.

And so on and so forth: As Borchers lays out, the narrative starts with the assumption that it’s preposterous to believe there might be a few racists lurking in a crowd of anti-immigration fanatics living in the same city that, 50 years ago, was setting police dogs on crowds of civil rights protesters. Once you buy that premise, it’s really not much a leap to start denying that what you are seeing—a bunch of white people swarming this BLM protester—is somehow “self-defense” or anything but what it clearly is.

This story goes beyond your typical case of partisans arguing about who started what, and really crosses the line into a nascent conspiracy theory. To believe the right-wing spin on events, you have to not only disregard the only reasonable interpretation of the video footage, but the testimony of at least three separate journalists. That’s not just paranoid, but melting-steel-beams territory.
 
The theories running aren't that Clinton bought Trump but that he played the man's limitless ego, vanity, and disillusion. Not that I believe that was done; it's just so amusing to contemplate.

Agreed. It is a completely farcical idea to think that the same people who buy Trump's bullshit that he's one of the world's greatest negotiators ("Buy my book! The Art of the Deal! It's huuuuge, it's the best!") also are willing to believe that he got played by someone they all demean as an immoral huckster.
 
So far no one defined fascism. I own fat books on the subject of fascism, and none of them define the term.

A fascist government has one leader who makes all the laws, rules, and policies. He's a dictator, for all intents and purposes. Fascist dictators are ultra nationalists. Their nation is more important than anything or anyone in it. Consequently, fascist dictators aren't much influenced by individuals or special interest groups within their nation. Individuals and special interest groups derive benefits from the dictator, for compliance and cooperation with the rules.

In Spain, for example, any woman could sell pussy but she hadda comply with strict rules that included weekly medical exams, stirling conduct away from work, compliance with a dress code, and practice her trade at an approved brothel. The Guardia Civil policed such places, and the brothel operators managed the facility not the women. The women solicited men from restaurants located on the site. The restaurants were approved vendors who played by rules, too.

Trouble-makers lost their permits.
 
So far no one defined fascism. I own fat books on the subject of fascism, and none of them define the term.

A fascist government has one leader who makes all the laws, rules, and policies. He's a dictator, for all intents and purposes. Fascist dictators are ultra nationalists. -
Trouble-makers lost their permits.

Maybe that's what Trump was talking about when he said, we'd have to do things we've never done before in order to be secure?
 
So far no one defined fascism. I own fat books on the subject of fascism, and none of them define the term.

Fascism:

Fascism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism[1][2] that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. Influenced by national syndicalism, fascism originated in Italy during World War I, in opposition to liberalism, Marxism, and anarchism. Fascism is usually placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.[3][4]

Fascism:

Fascist ideology centres on national unity behind a single revered dictator and for the idea that citizens must serve the state (as opposed to most forms of liberal democracy, which have an inverse view of this relationship). Fascism is largely remembered for its oppressive treatment of citizens, infringements on personal freedoms and ruthless crushing of opposition. It usually requires a cult of personality around a single central figure, hero worship, and a strong emphasis on a particularly militaristic view of national security. A running theme in fascist regimes is the concept of palingenetic ultranationalism, or that there must be an "organic" revolution that will lead to a national rebirth to a more pure era that will do away with decadence and weakness within the nation. Rarely are there many specifics given on what this may look like or how to reach this "rebirth" but it is nevertheless strongly identified with fascism, to the point where some say it is the primary difference between fascist regimes and other right-wing dictatorships.[2] In this way fascism could be considered an extreme (or just different) take on reactionary political philosophies.

Fascism:

Fascism — For Our Nation, Our Leader, and Victory!

The chief objective of Fascism is strengthening the nation and increasing its prestige through warfare — i.e. Type 2 Patriotic Fervor taken to its extreme. Fascism shares Nationalism’s belief that only ‘nations’ matter (and individual/actual people don’t) but completely rejects Liberalism and so hates individuality and all other non-national senses of identity. Fascism opposes equality between nations as it wants its own to either be the only one in existence or merely (the most) powerful, but has no set opinion on equality within its nation (let alone other nations). Fascism has no opinion on capitalism or economics and loves war because Fascism is about passion and national honor, not numbers and planning. Fascism may overlap with ‘race’ and ‘racial theory’ insofar as it defines who belongs to the nation, but not necessarily.

Philosophically, it arises from a Continental Counter-Enlightenment philosophical context, influenced by such thinkers as J.G. Fichte, Martin Heidegger, and Georg Hegel. Its origins have some overlap with that of socialism, with Benito Mussolini (the proverbial father of fascism politically) being a former Marxist. Historically, its roots can be searched for in the ethos of stormtrooper formations of late World War I; many ex-soldiers carried on this spirit of aggression and elitism as they went on to dabble in extreme politics, among them Mussolini himself. Whereas Marx replaced Hegel’s “Zeitgeist” (or “spirit of the age”) with the prevailing economic system, fascists replace the zeitgeist with the spirit of the nation. Fascism argues for an organic conception of a nation with the State seen as the embodiment of the national spirit: as such, fascist regimes feature strong central governments which are authoritarian in nature. Individuals are seen, fundamentally, as products of the nation (similar to how Marxian “methodological collectivism” views individuals as products of their economic class) — hence, fascism requires a strong identification with nationality and national identity on the part of the people, rejecting all individualism or identification with economic class. Fascism often claims to represent the entire nation, subservient to the State and unified behind the Leader, undivided e.g. by class struggles; in the eyes of a fascist, a popular autocrat is a better representation of the people’s interests and desires than an elected parliament, which is viewed contemptuously as a den of immorality and ineffectual bickering. Given this stance, fascism is inherently undemocratic and autocratic.

Strong national identification involves a veneration of not just the nation in abstract, but of practices seen as fundamental to national identity: this results in a reverence for tradition. Traditions are seen as important rituals that connect people to the national spirit. Furthermore, fascism tends to support social policy positions which are regarded as conservative or right-wing. However, these policy positions are conservative in the Oakeshottean sense of the term: they are considered the right policies because they are consistent with national traditions, rather than because of any pre-existing moral commitments. Indeed, to a fascist, a moral commitment that ‘pre-exists’ inside an individual’s mind independently of said individual's nationality is a ridiculous notion, as they believe individuals are ‘socially constructed’ by their nationality as was stated before. Many argue that ethical relativism (i.e. what is good for Nation X may not be good for Nation Y) is thus an integral part of fascism and a logical consequence of fascism’s belief in ‘national spirits.’ It should also be kept in mind, however, that while fascists do use reverence for tradition and national identity, those in themselves are not fascist.

That does not mean that fascism doesn’t have a system of ethics and values, however — instead, that system of ethics is rooted in concepts of struggle, power, and obedience. Typically this is expressed in the form of an extreme cultural militarism, with the military being an expression of the power and might of the State, and the mentality of eagerness and action for action’s sake.

The most infamous element of fascism is its support for Social Darwinism of various sorts. In Mussolini’s and Hitler’s regimes, a level of internal “creative tension” within the components of the nation was seen as beneficial in directing competitive desires towards the service of the State. Furthermore, Hitler's version of fascism (National Socialism, a.k.a. Nazism) combined this Social-Darwinist ethos with an institutional belief in white supremacy to posit an evolutionary struggle between various races. We all know where this led, so further elaboration is not necessary.

Things get more complicated when outlining fascist economics. Since fascism is used as an epithet and it is popularly believed that if Fascists did it, then it is bad, a long intellectual battle has been waged over how to characterize the economics of Fascism.

Typically, the term “corporatism” is used to describe fascist economics. It describes a situation wherein all the large privately-owned economic institutions (corporations, industry cartels and the like) are brought into collusion with the government and become part of the apparatus of the State’s economic planning. Additionally, private ownership and ability to do business become contingent on service to the State. Thus, while ownership of the means of production (the stuff used to produce other stuff) remains in private hands and continues to be operated with a for-profit objective, ultimate control is exercised by the State. Fascist governments also exercise further control over the economy via methods such as price-fixing.

The fascist economic system is in keeping with the ideology’s totalitarian nature, where no other institution can be allowed to rival the State in power and influence. This quality also leads to a hostility toward labor unions and other organised worker groups, with such institutions typically being repressed and dissolved. Mussolini’s Italy did in fact see the creation of new trade unions following the dissolution of the old ones: these new unions were owned and operated by the State, with very little advocacy on workers' behalf.

This system invites comparisons with many forms of state socialism, as both ideologies involve a centrally-planned economy with the State in control of the means of production. Although ownership remains private in the fascist system, many classical-liberal critiques of fascism have argued that “ownership without control” is a senseless, inherently illogical notion, and that fascism is economically indistinguishable from state socialism and therefore is a variant of state socialism. Still, even a cursory look at the two ideologies will demonstrate the radical differences in ethos, even if comparisons in actual outcome are legitimate.

Marxist critiques of fascism, conversely, argue that fascism is a form of capitalism, in the sense of Marx’s initial definition of the term (see the “Marxism” subsection above). Despite being highly regimented and controlled by the State, fascist economies still have private ownership of industries by an upper class who make profit from the labor of workers; as profit still exists, the economy is still exploitative and thus a form of capitalism. Fascism is on the whole strongly anti-Marxist and anti-socialist, and the two ideologies are usually rivals in attempts to take power during crises like economic depressions — Marxism thus considers fascism to be at best a power play coming out of the petit bourgeois, and at worst little more than a group of violent thugs controlled by the capitalist class brought in as enforcers to defend the old order (and whether or not it acknowledges this status is regarded as irrelevant, since in practice they still end up defending capitalism).

However, ultimately economics in fascism is usually a secondary concern; they claim the “Third Position” on the issue between capitalist and communist.

Contemporary fascist groups can only succeed by the use of fantastic lies to deceive the public. Whether through conspiracy theories, Holocaust denial or scare tactics, people aren’t likely to side with a group at odds with their liberties unless they convince the public that the powers that be will enslave them anyway. Most often, this comes down to conspiracies blaming some sinister cabal of ceding their nation’s sovereignty to the UN by destroying national identity through immigration which is Insane Troll Logic at its finest.

In Spain, for example, any woman could sell pussy but she hadda comply with strict rules that included weekly medical exams, stirling conduct away from work, compliance with a dress code, and practice her trade at an approved brothel. The Guardia Civil policed such places, and the brothel operators managed the facility not the women. The women solicited men from restaurants located on the site. The restaurants were approved vendors who played by rules, too.

Trouble-makers lost their permits.

Franco's Spain was authoritarian, but not fascist -- Franco had fascist (Falangist) supporters, but his politics were really pre-modern traditionalist -- in the 19th C., he would have been a Carlist. It has been said of Franco that he was "a cop, not an artist." He lacked the revolutionary imagination to be a fascist.
 
ACT for America and 111 Percent, make their presences known.


The spokesmen try to give the impression that there is reason, an intellect, and reasonable goals behind the formation of their groups.

Then, the more fanatically focused members blow the smooth, cool impression to smithereens.

Screaming and physically attacking someone that does not agree with you, does not attract admiration.

Especially when policemen must haul a man away from a female victim.

Hatred burns hot, inside the mind that cannot brook opposition.
 
awesome, get your obama juice on. smoke all you want as its free

just turn in your freewill and soul
 
The unprecedented nightmare of Donald Trump’s campaign: We’ve openly begun using the F-word in American politics.

The bizarre spectacle of Trump's candidacy has one word on everyone's mind: "Fascism"
Heather Digby Parton


Over the past week or so, something unusual has happened in American politics: political figures, mainstream scholars and commentators are describing a leading contender for president of the United States as a fascist. Sure, people on barstools around the country have done this forever but it’s unprecedented to see such a thing on national television and in the pages of major newspapers.

For instance, take a look at this piece by MJ Lee at CNN:

t it was after Trump started calling for stronger surveillance of Muslim-Americans in the aftermath of the Paris terrorist attacks that a handful of conservatives ventured to call Trump’s rhetoric something much more dangerous: fascism.

[…]

“Trump is a fascist. And that’s not a term I use loosely or often. But he’s earned it,” tweeted Max Boot, a conservative fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations who is advising Marco Rubio.

“Forced federal registration of US citizens, based on religious identity, is fascism. Period. Nothing else to call it,” Jeb Bush national security adviser John Noonan wrote on Twitter.

Conservative Iowa radio host Steve Deace, who has endorsed Ted Cruz, also used the “F” word last week: “If Obama proposed the same religion registry as Trump every conservative in the country would call it what it is — creeping fascism.”


Yes, this is a hard fought primary campaign with insults flying in every direction. But ask yourself when was the last time you heard Republicans using the “F” word against someone running in their own party? I can’t remember it happening in decades. It’s possible that some members of the GOP establishment called Barry Goldwater a fascist in 1964 (Democrats did, for sure) but that was half a century ago. In recent years this just has not been considered politically correct on left or right.

The CNN story goes on to interview various scholars who all say that to one degree or another Trump is, indeed, fascistic if not what we used to call “a total fascist.” Historian Rick Perlstein was the first to venture there when he wrote this piece some months back.

It’s hard to understand why this has been so difficult to see. On the day he announced his campaign, Trump openly said he believed that undocumented workers are not just criminals (that’s a common refrain among the anti-immigrant right which fatuously chants “they broke the law by coming here”) but violent rapists, killers and gang members. He said he wants to deport millions of people, including American citizens. In fact, he wants to restrict American citizenship to people whose parents are citizens, and thus are guaranteed citizenship by the 14th amendment.

For months Trump has been saying that we cannot allow Syrian refugees into the country and promising to send the ones who are already here back. He has indicated a willingness to require American Muslims to register with the government and thinks they should be put under surveillance.

He condemns every other country on earth as an enemy, whether economic, military or both, and promises to beat them to “make America great again.” Despite the fact that the U.S. is the world’s only superpower, he says he will make it so strong that “nobody will ever mess with us again” so that it was “highly, highly, highly, unlikely” that he would have to use nuclear weapons.

And he said quite clearly that he believes,

“we’re going to have to do things that we never did before. And some people are going to be upset about it, but I think that now everybody is feeling that security is going to rule… And so we’re going to have to do certain things that were frankly unthinkable a year ago…”

Does that add up to fascism? Yeah, pretty much. In his book, “Rush, Newspeak and Fascism” David Neiwert explained that the dictionary definition of the word often leaves out the most important characteristics of the philosophy, which are “its claims to represent the “true character” of the respective national identities among which it arises; and its mythic core of national rebirth — not to mention its corporatist component, its anti-liberalism, its glorification of violence and its contempt for weakness.” If that’s not Donald Trump I don’t know what is.

But if that doesn’t convince you, surely this quote from Monday in Ohio will:

“This morning they asked me a question. ‘Would you approve waterboarding” Would I approve waterboarding? Yeah. And let me ask you a question? I said, on the other side, they chop off our young people’s heads and they put ’em on a stick. On the other side they build these iron cages and they’ll put 20 people in them and they drop ’em in the ocean for 15 minutes and pull ’em up 15 minutes later. Would I approve waterboarding? You bet your ass I’d approve it, you bet your ass — in a heartbeat.

And I would approve more than that. Don’t kid yourself, folks. It works, okay? It works. Only a stupid person would say it doesn’t work.They’ll say, ‘oh it has no value’, well I know people, very, very important people and they want to be politically correct and I see some people taking on television, ‘well I don’t know if it works’ and they tell me later on, ‘it works, it works, believe me, it works’.

And you know what? If it doesn’t work, they deserve it anyway for what they’re doing to us.”

Now it’s true that Trump isn’t the first important political figure to publicly endorse waterboarding. Former Vice President Dick Cheney recently said he’d do it again “in a heartbeat” and falsely claimed that “it works.” But even he kept up the fiction that it was rarely employed and only then for interrogation purposes. I don’t know that any top political figure has openly endorsed torture to exact revenge.

But then Trump doesn’t take his cues from political figures. He channels the ethos of talk radio and emulates the king, Rush Limbaugh, who famously described the torture at Abu Ghraib this way:

“This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation, and we’re going to ruin people’s lives over it, and we’re going to hamper our military effort, and then we are going to really hammer them because they had a good time. You know, these people are being fired at every day. I’m talking about people having a good time, these people, you ever heard of emotional release? You [ever] heard of need to blow some steam off?”

[…] “There’s only one thing to do here, folks, and that’s achieve victory over people who have targeted us for loooong, long time, well over 15, 20 years. It’s the only way to deal with this, and that’s why obsessing about a single incident or two of so-called abuse in a prison is nothing more than a giant distraction and could up being something that will really tie our hands and handcuffs us in what the real objective is here, which is the preservation of our way of life and our country.”

Donald Trump endorses torture as a method of exacting revenge on people simply because of their nationality or religion. And he gets huge cheers when he talks about that as well as deportations and military invasions and torture and revenge.

He may be the first openly fascistic frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination but the ground was prepared and the seeds of his success sowed over the course of many years. We’ve had fascism flowing through the American political bloodstream for quite some time.
 
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Illinois Republican who says gays cause tornadoes and autism defies party by running for Congress again

An extreme right-wing Republican candidate who believes that tornadoes are God’s punishment for LGBT tolerance has filed a petition to be on the ballot in the race to represent Illinois’ 9th Congressional District in Congress.

Cook County GOP Chairman Aaron Del Mar told Mike Riopell of the Daily Herald that it is a certainty that her petitions will be challenged by Republicans within the party “for sure.”

“We will not support her at all,” Del Mar said. “We don’t want anything to do with her.”

It is comforting to know that even Republicans have limits on the insanity they will support, isn't it?
 
Cop shoots and kills Delaware man’s dog — as it runs away from him

Smyrna, DE — Heavily militarized officers from the Delaware State Police and the Smyrna Police Department were allegedly executing a search warrant Friday night when they burst into the home of Mark Reedy.

The raid was captured on Reedy’s in-home security camera and the video was uploaded to Facebook over the weekend.

As the video begins, we can see the dog run up to the door barking and wagging his tail.

“State police, search warrant!” yell the cops behind their body-length military shield.

As the dog sees the shield and the gun he becomes startled and runs away. When the dog runs out of frame, it is clear that he posed no threat to the ten men in full body armor.

Reedy was not home at the time of the raid and when he returned, he found a horrific scene. Police had taken the body of his dog, left the blood puddle, and cut holes in the walls in a likely attempt to recover the bullet fragments that could be used against them in criminal proceedings.

With video of them shooting the dog and Reedy's response to the cowardly fascists.

(I meant to put this in the Helpful Police thread but it fits here too.)
 
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