Remembering: 9-11

[Babyslave]

I told myself not to watch television today. My own thoughts and memories would suffice. But I watch. While I sob, quietly, and unendingly. I lost loved ones and friends that day, as so many did. They deserve my attention, my remembrance, my love and my respect. God, how you are missed.

Too much emotion
Too much sadness
Too much fear
So many tears

Time doesn't lessen the ache, the loss, the love.

I know this isn't the place for this thread. I apologize for that. I just needed to say something, to someone, somewhere. I hope you understand.

 

[TarevaChine]

I am sorry that you lost loved ones and friends. Please do not be sorry that you posted this. When it comes to remembering that horrible day 10 years ago and everything that we have went through and continue to go through, there is no wrong way in how you acknowledge it.

When we start to worry about how, when and where we acknowledge this day, that is the day that we allow them to win.

My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone that lost someone that day, as well as to the families that have lost military members.

I wish all of the men and women of the military a safe journey and hope that you will return home soon!

I wish comfort and peace to everyone that has been affected by this day.

 

[Daddy2mylilgirl]

RIP to all those lost.

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[HottieMama]

I'm not turning my TV on. I can't. It's one of those things that is still raw. I lost my first NA sponsor who was also one of the first people to introduce me to kink that day. His picture sits on my bookshelf. I miss him every day.

R.I.P. "Daddy Bill" I love you.

 

[Curious_in_Cali]

Thinking of that day makes me very sad and quiet.

Much love, hugs, and comfort to all.

 

[DVS]

I didn't lose any personal friends, but I have personal friends who lost family in the WTC and at the Pentagon.

I think we need to watch what's on TV. This is the 10 year anniversary of something that changed the world we all live in, no matter where you live. The terrorists played no favorites. There were not just Americans killed that day. And although the acts were targeted at American symbols, everybody on earth now has to live with the possibility of terrorism when traveling, and even when just going to a mall or club, in some countries.

Terrorists are just scum who sneak around in the shadows, setting bombs and other evils to kill innocent people. While they say they have a purpose, they don't do it for any other reason than hate.

After 9-11, we all became soldiers against terrorism. We should watch, remember the victims and promise them that we won't allow horrors like this to ever happen again.

 

[Chiara_searches]

My thoughts and prayers go to those who lost someone on 9/11.

 

[ecstaticsub]

I made myself watch TV this morning. I didn't want to, but needed to.

My husband was active duty military that day and I knew after the 2nd plane hit that my life and the lives of all of us would never be the same. I was right. My husband spent time both in Iraq and Afghanistan. We have lost good friends. Even now that my husband is retired the aftereffects of that day and the wars that followed effect us.

My husband and I put our flag out this morning, kissed and hugged each other and went in to watch the memorial services.

 

[Kojote]

I just wish some more of the ever present tragedies would play such a large role in the heads of the people after ten years. Or five... Or one... Or a day...
Maybe that would make more of a difference...

To be honest I didn't watch TV today for a reason (and be sure that even the german television is full of 9-11 today).
It makes me sad taht (for just one example) nobody outside of my current hometown even knows that there was a firefighter a couple of weeks ago who died in a burning house trying to rescue an inhabitant and almost nobody remembers that over here.
Feels a bit like he died in the wrong house to be remembered as a hero...

Sorry for nitpicking... It's things like this that come to my mind on days like this...

 

[ebunny15]

You

I did not know your name
We never shook hands

But on That Day...
You got up
Kissed your spouse/child/parent/pet/
Said good bye to your roommate
And closed the door behind you

You sat your desk/
Checked in at your post/
Swiped your time card/
Boarded a plane
And started your day

When the time came
Did you know?
Pray/
Curse the heavens/
Weep/
Fight back with your bare hands

Now that you're gone
I know your name/
I know you walked this earth/
I mourn that you were so cruelly taken
But I honor your memory
Because you once lived
And that's all that matters

 

[promod01]

9/11/01 Never Forget

 

[Stella_Omega]

The tragedy of this day is completely overshadowed by the subsequent tragedy of what's happened to the America that I once was proud of.

On this day, we were attacked by zero Afghanis, and zero Iraqis.
On this day we let domestic terrorists take over our nation-- armed not with bombs like DVS claims, but with lies and money.
On this day we tied the puppet strings onto our own limbs, and forsook our voices for the language of sheep.
On this day we squandered the good-will of the entire globe.

Last week I visited a former firefighter who came back to Los Angeles with the seeds of emphysema in his lungs after joining his brothers in New York. He will probably die within five years time, and it won't be an easy death. Today he gets to be treated like a hero, gets to shake the Mayor's hand. Tomorrow he will return to his home where he ekes out his time waiting to die. Every once in a while, his disability check doesn't arrive and he gets to go fight for it.

 

[BiBunny]

Remember? I don't think I could ever forget.

 

[DVS]

The tragedy of this day is completely overshadowed by the subsequent tragedy of what's happened to the America that I once was proud of.

On this day, we were attacked by zero Afghanis, and zero Iraqis.
On this day we let domestic terrorists take over our nation-- armed not with bombs like DVS claims, but with lies and money.
On this day we tied the puppet strings onto our own limbs, and forsook our voices for the language of sheep.
On this day we squandered the good-will of the entire globe.

Last week I visited a former firefighter who came back to Los Angeles with the seeds of emphysema in his lungs after joining his brothers in New York. He will probably die within five years time, and it won't be an easy death. Today he gets to be treated like a hero, gets to shake the Mayor's hand. Tomorrow he will return to his home where he ekes out his time waiting to die. Every once in a while, his disability check doesn't arrive and he gets to go fight for it.

On this day Stella once again puts HER personal opinions in front of all others and stains a perfectly fine memorial thread about a sad day with political rants.

Stella, if you would like to complain about the wrongs of the world, more power to you. But this isn't the place for it. Feel free to start your own thread and rant all you want. Better yet, move to Washington D. C. and rub elbows with those domestic terrorists. You know, unless you back your words up with actions, it's just bitching and we've all heard it. Thank you for your understanding.

 

[graceanne]

Remember? I don't think I could ever forget.

Pretty much.

 

[JMohegan]

I didn't lose any personal friends, but I have personal friends who lost family in the WTC and at the Pentagon.

I think we need to watch what's on TV. This is the 10 year anniversary of something that changed the world we all live in, no matter where you live. The terrorists played no favorites. There were not just Americans killed that day. And although the acts were targeted at American symbols, everybody on earth now has to live with the possibility of terrorism when traveling, and even when just going to a mall or club, in some countries.

Terrorists are just scum who sneak around in the shadows, setting bombs and other evils to kill innocent people. While they say they have a purpose, they don't do it for any other reason than hate.

After 9-11, we all became soldiers against terrorism. We should watch, remember the victims and promise them that we won't allow horrors like this to ever happen again.

In response to your political comments on terrorism and our response to it, I'm going to quote conservative columnist George Will, who puts this more succinctly than I ever could.


"Sept. 11 was the fifth significant attack by radical Islamists on American targets. It followed those on the USS Cole in 2000, the East African embassies in 1998 and the Khobar Towers in 1996, and the 1993 attempt to topple the World Trade Center with a truck bomb. So what Sept. 11 actually began was the U.S. reaction, as muscular as it was belated, to the challenge of terrorism.

The depleted armed forces that have been fighting these wars for a nation not conscripted into any notable inconvenience will eventually recuperate. For mostly oblivious civilians, the only recurring and most visible reminder of the post-Sept. 11 world is shoeless participation in the security theater at airports. It thus seems wildly incongruous that some Americans rushed to proclaim that 9/11 'changed everything.'"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...icted-wounds/2011/09/08/gIQAfjm5FK_story.html

 

[JMohegan]

I told myself not to watch television today. My own thoughts and memories would suffice. But I watch. While I sob, quietly, and unendingly. I lost loved ones and friends that day, as so many did. They deserve my attention, my remembrance, my love and my respect. God, how you are missed.

Too much emotion
Too much sadness
Too much fear
So many tears

Time doesn't lessen the ache, the loss, the love.

On average, about 7,000 Americans die every single day. Most who die in this country had loved ones and friends, who surely understand and can sympathize with your agony of loss. As do I.

The difference here is that 9-11 dead are memorialized in a nationally obsessive manner that I personally do not consider healthy. Not for the families and friends, and not for the country overall. For this, you also have my sympathy.

 

[DVS]

On average, about 7,000 Americans die every single day. Most who die in this country had loved ones and friends, who surely understand and can sympathize with your agony of loss. As do I.

The difference here is that 9-11 dead are memorialized in a nationally obsessive manner that I personally do not consider healthy. Not for the families and friends, and not for the country overall. For this, you also have my sympathy.

There are 14.16 births per 1,000 people (2007 est)
compared to 8.26 deaths per 1,000 people (2007 est).
There are 301,139,947 people in our country (2007 est).

This averages out to around:
4,264,141 annual birth rates / or 11,683 daily births
vs 2,487,415 annual death rates / or 6,815 daily deaths.

A substantial number of those deaths are smoking related. Still sad, but smoking has been known to be bad for human health for some time, now. Death of a smoker isn't really unheard of. I would assume that most smokers would love to break the habit.

Approximately 120 deaths a day are due to auto accidents. As unfair as accidents are, any accidental death is still an accident, meaning it wasn't intentional.

There are a lot of guns in the U.S. and so suicide, homicides and unintentional shootings (accidents and criminals shot by law enforcement, etc.) comes to a total of about 80 people dying everyday from gunshot.

Another substantial number of those deaths are people who have just gotten old. The oldest baby boomers are in their 60s and getting older every day. That number will only increase for the next 25 or so years. Death by old age isn't unheard of and I think most would choose that kind of death over another. All of these deaths are sad to family and friends of the decedent. And all of these deaths were spread throughout the whole U.S.

But, there's one difference in these deaths and those on 9-11. As sad as any death is to those affected, those on 9-11 weren't by accident, old age, disease, or even homicide. They all died because of an act of terrorism. Some would include that as homicide, but most homicides are for a reason, an act between two people, and many times they are related. The only reason for terrorism is to kill innocent victims, as many as possible, to terrorize society.

9-11 was planned out years in advance and executed for the purpose of killing as many people as possible and to break the spirit of America. Anybody who watched the shows on TV yesterday could tell the spirit of America has not been broken. And anybody who saw the grieving families of those we lost on 9-11 could tell they want their family member to be remembered.

9-11 was an act of war, but because terrorists are not members of any sovereign country, legitimate war could not be declared. We are left to looking under rocks, in caves and in the shadows, because that's the way terrorists live.

Now, I'd guess that if you were to go to any New York fire station, or police station, or visit the memorial at ground zero and ask if the 9-11 dead are memorialized in a nationally obsessive manner that isn't healthy, I could also guess the answer you'd receive.

A post like yours, in a memorial thread, makes me think you don't have any real concern for those who died on 9-11, or even how or why they died. Your post also makes me think that you have a dark heart and are basically a disgruntled human being. For this, you have my sympathy.

 

[DVS]

In response to your political comments on terrorism and our response to it, I'm going to quote conservative columnist George Will, who puts this more succinctly than I ever could.


"Sept. 11 was the fifth significant attack by radical Islamists on American targets. It followed those on the USS Cole in 2000, the East African embassies in 1998 and the Khobar Towers in 1996, and the 1993 attempt to topple the World Trade Center with a truck bomb. So what Sept. 11 actually began was the U.S. reaction, as muscular as it was belated, to the challenge of terrorism.

The depleted armed forces that have been fighting these wars for a nation not conscripted into any notable inconvenience will eventually recuperate. For mostly oblivious civilians, the only recurring and most visible reminder of the post-Sept. 11 world is shoeless participation in the security theater at airports. It thus seems wildly incongruous that some Americans rushed to proclaim that 9/11 'changed everything.'"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...icted-wounds/2011/09/08/gIQAfjm5FK_story.html

George Will is an opinion writer and as such, a sensationalist. If his stories didn't bring in readers from both sides of the conversation, he wouldn't have a job. He sells papers. But, he has his right to an opinion, just like you or I do. But this thread is not for opinions. Let it go.

 

[JMohegan]

A post like yours, in a memorial thread, makes me think you don't have any real concern for those who died on 9-11, or even how or why they died. Your post also makes me think that you have a dark heart and are basically a disgruntled human being. For this, you have my sympathy.

My post to the OP was a sincere expression of sympathy.

George Will is an opinion writer and as such, a sensationalist. If his stories didn't bring in readers from both sides of the conversation, he wouldn't have a job. He sells papers. But, he has his right to an opinion, just like you or I do. But this thread is not for opinions. Let it go.

This thread is full of opinions. Including yours.

Yours here, by the way, have all been entirely political. Except for the personal attacks, of course.

 

[Kojote]

Look, DVS…
I don’t want to bust your memorial. But I just can’t look at it appreciatively. I view it they way JMohegan described it: With a bit of suspicion towards healthiness.
I’m German and I was raised with a deep rooted suspicion towards nationalism and patriotism. It’s what got Germany in trouble.
Just make a try to imagine what I do think about your point of view ten years after this disaster.
Try to imagine what I think of when reading words like ‘act of war against the American people’ and the like.

Don’t let 9-11 become your Reichstag Fire…

 

[DVS]

Look, DVS…
I don’t want to bust your memorial. But I just can’t look at it appreciatively. I view it they way JMohegan described it: With a bit of suspicion towards healthiness.
I’m German and I was raised with a deep rooted suspicion towards nationalism and patriotism. It’s what got Germany in trouble.
Just make a try to imagine what I do think about your point of view ten years after this disaster.
Try to imagine what I think of when reading words like ‘act of war against the American people’ and the like.

Don’t let 9-11 become your Reichstag Fire…

I'll do my best. Thank you for your comments, now let it go.

 

[DVS]

My post to the OP was a sincere expression of sympathy.


This thread is full of opinions. Including yours.

Yours here, by the way, have all been entirely political. Except for the personal attacks, of course.

And thank you for your opinion. This is my last post, here.

 

[BiBunny]

On average, about 7,000 Americans die every single day. Most who die in this country had loved ones and friends, who surely understand and can sympathize with your agony of loss. As do I.

The difference here is that 9-11 dead are memorialized in a nationally obsessive manner that I personally do not consider healthy. Not for the families and friends, and not for the country overall. For this, you also have my sympathy.

At the risk of sounding like some asshole Bible-thumper--which I am not--it's not the dead I mourn for, but the living.

 

[shy slave]

At the risk of sounding like some asshole Bible-thumper--which I am not--it's not the dead I mourn for, but the living.

9-11 was terrible.

Terrible for those who realised they would not survive, terrible for those who survived such a day and terrible for those who live every day without people who were taken from them without warning.

Although these attacks happened in America, people from other Nations also died. Sometimes it seems America forgets this.

I had someone close to me die on the same date, but not the same year.

The build-up to the date makes everything in sharper focus, it makes it hard to breathe.

I have no idea what it must be like to have lost someone in those attacks, but the build-up may not be healthy.

Every Nation remembers their dead, either as a Nation on specific dates (11/11) for example, or as individuals.

I have no idea what is best. I would prefer to recall the dead than to forget they ever existed, but memories are a difficult place to be sometimes.