Remember the passion to see Trump's tax returns...

[Champakian]

... which in some circles is still a topic of great concern and consternation?

The adherents of that criminal conspiracy lack any and all curiosity over what is on Hunter's laptop.
They were quite contented with the tagline: It's not his, it's Russian disinformation.

(Ironically, the Russians [Ukrainians] might actually have Hunter piss tapes;
we know he's spent most of his life pissed to the wind...)

I guess we could say that it's too complicated, the layperson
would not be able to discern the truth from the files
(as they would be able to decipher complex
business tax returns...), so why bother?

Besides, it happened in the past!
Biden won even with the laptop!
You just can't get over the loss!
You're a PARTISAN shill...

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Hunter is running for president?

 

[Champakian]

I know! You are so spot on this morning!

Of course, Ivanka and Jerrod were not running, yet central to the story...

 

[ll74]

Of course I wanna and Jarod were direct advisors to the President in an official capacity.

 

[Champakian]

Well, if that's the serious charge, it seems that Hunter, too, is an intimate advisor,
especially on the topics of (Ukrainian) energy and Chinese business interests...

He also, in true Mafia fashion, kicked money upstairs to "The Big Guy."
I'm only guessing here, but TBG, must be Trump. Right?

 

[ll74]

Well, if that's the serious charge, it seems that Hunter, too, is an intimate advisor,
especially on the topics of (Ukrainian) energy and Chinese business interests...

He also, in true Mafia fashion, kicked money upstairs to "The Big Guy."
I'm only guessing here, but TBG, must be Trump. Right?

Hunter is not a part of the administration at all.

 

[Champakian]

That's not a very salient point that you keep driving at.
He is very much a part of his father's and family's
business dealings, transactions and investments.

He was selling influence.

Tell me right now, in your Big Boy font,
do you condone this sort of family influence,
working for the administration in the shadows
versus doing it out in the open and willingly testifying
before the Biden Family's elected government inquisitors?

 

[ll74]

That's not a very salient point that you keep driving at.
He is very much a part of his father's and family's
business dealings, transactions and investments.

He was selling influence.

Tell me right now, in your Big Boy font,
do you condone this sort of family influence,
working for the administration in the shadows
versus doing it out in the open and willingly testifying
before the Biden Family's elected government inquisitors?

Having direct influence on the administration is absolutely a strong point. Without it, you're left to find the money trail or you're left to find policy decisions which indicate any influence at all...both of which are much harder to find and prove. And having a few emails with subtle hints at influence is a start...and I certainly believe it warrants further investigation, but there's quite a difference. Sadly, for you and others, you believe it strengthens your case.....

Two direct relatives, one of which is the head of middle eastern foreign policy, having a direct hand in Presidential policy. Two other direct relatives taking money from foreign governments at properties for a business that has his name tag on it. It doesn't get any more publicly obvious than that why they are treated differently.

I have said and continue to say...nepotism is never a good thing.

 

[Champakian]

Hunter had "direct influence."

The salient point being that his father could be blackmailed/coerced over Hunter's crimes,
especially when they have an unnamed accomplice in protecting the racket know affectionately as

THE FREE PRESS.

You see, you are trying to make a difference where there is little, or no difference,
other than the one was legal and hence, it seems to you to be impeachable,
rising to the same level as the one draped in illegality and criminality...

 

[ll74]

Hunter had "direct influence."

The salient point being that his father could be blackmailed/coerced over Hunter's crimes,
especially when they have an unnamed accomplice in protecting the racket know affectionately as

THE FREE PRESS.

You see, you are trying to make a difference where there is little, or no difference,
other than the one was legal and hence, it seems to you to be impeachable,
rising to the same level as the one draped in illegality and criminality...

He was not directly advising the President. Most of the timing of the "influence" was when Biden wasn't even in office.

Investigate him...no issue with that. But you've already concluded...so I doubt any result will be sufficient for you.

I've never called for investigation into any of the Trump kids.

 

[Champakian]

*chuckle*

You're no magician. We can see the misdirection.
You decided that you did not want to address the topic,
so you decided to "debate" a meaningless point to make a point,
a pointless point in fact, an exercise in Pointillism (Seurat) in which
your point is to gaze at a point in order to avoid the viewing of the picture
(which, as it it said, paints a thousand words) and I've seen this done many times...

Look A_J, this is a maple tree! You said it was an OAK forest, so you are either ignorant or a liar!
A forest predominated by one tree does not preclude other types of trees.
YOU'RE A LIAR!!!

 

[Champakian]

Who ever said that you called for anything?
Now you want to be the put-upon "victim" too???

 

[ll74]

*chuckle*

You're no magician. We can see the misdirection.
You decided that you did not want to address the topic,
so you decided to "debate" a meaningless point to make a point,
a pointless point in fact, an exercise in Pointillism (Seurat) in which
your point is to gaze at a point in order to avoid the viewing of the picture
(which, as it it said, paints a thousand words) and I've seen this done many times...

Look A_J, this is a maple tree! You said it was an OAK forest, so you are either ignorant or a liar!
A forest predominated by one tree does not preclude other types of trees.
YOU'RE A LIAR!!!

o. 0

Word salad is wordy
is there a reason why you're using the term "we"? No one else is involved in our discussion....oh right...performative... Got it

 

[phrodeau]

o. 0

Word salad is wordy
is there a reason why you're using the term "we"? No one else is involved in our discussion....oh right...performative... Got it

He plus his alts.

 

[HisArpy]

Who ever said that you called for anything?
Now you want to be the put-upon "victim" too???

Of course he does. It's his schtick.

 

[ll74]

Who ever said that you called for anything?
Now you want to be the put-upon "victim" too???

I'm assuming that you bringing up Trump's kids meant that you believed I called for an investigation into them and that I held a double standard for Hunter.

I guess I was incorrect there

 

[Wrong Element]

I mean, I don't know why Hunter Biden can't simply abide by the longstanding norm that the American people should always get to examine what's on the personal computers of the children of presidents. The Founding Fathers were very clear on this point.

 

[HisArpy]

I mean, I don't know why Hunter Biden can't simply abide by the longstanding norm that the American people should always get to examine what's on the personal computers of the children of presidents. The Founding Fathers were very clear on this point.

Yes yes, exactly. Which is why the courts should have upheld those State laws mandating the release of tax returns before any candidates will be placed on the ballot in that State.

After all, the founding fathers were all about revealing personal information to the general public. Hunter should get with the program.

 

[njlauren]

Okay, but if we are going to claim Hunter Biden was doing influence peddling with his father, that he was using his position to 'ilegally" make himself rich....then how about we investigate Ivanka Trump and her slimeball husband? They made something like 650 million dollars while they both were part of Trump's inside circle, officially. See, the Hunter Biden stuff happened BEFORE Biden was elected president, and once Obama left the white house in 2017 Biden had no official position......and Hunter Biden has been nowhere near the white house, has no position.

And while we are at it, how about Trump release his tax returns while he was in the White House, so we can see how much he used his position to enrich himself. We already know that he stayed at his own properties and billed the government a lot of money (which is supposed to be illegal under the constitition), but anyone wanna bet his businesses suddenly started getting great deals once he was electred president? Anyone want to trace the loans his businesses took out after he took office and see where they came from? (Hint, they were signed "With love, from Puti, your good friend).

But of course not. It will be fun to see what happens with all this, the GOP is batting like .0000001 on all their claims they throw around; election fraud, Benghazi, Whitewater, Vince Foster, Hillary's email, Hunter Biden, you name it, they spent prob 100 million dollars on this shit (outside Biden) and found in colleguial Italain, gatz. Election Fraud? In 2017, Nunes and crew spent 40 million dollars, found 80 cases of fraud..60 of which were Trump supporters (and gee, who do you think is more motivated to commit fraud, Maga nation who quite frankly are cultists, or the other side?).

The GQP throws this out there because they have a bunch of trash that eats it up, and that is all it is. See, they have a problem, just levying charges doesn't do much, you need to prove it. Just look at election fraud, everything they did turned into a disaster. They claim to have proof, get in front of a judge, and then say "I withdraw the suit", because they literally had nothing. All of Trump's lawyers are facing disciplinary action for those suits, because every one of them had no merit. Fox News thankfully isn't our legal system, and even GOP judges know that if they try and screw with rulings too much they will face a revolt and find their court becomes meaningless. The GQP can wish for Reichs courts, but we don't have them yet.

 

[Rightguide]

Okay, but if we are going to claim Hunter Biden was doing influence peddling with his father, that he was using his position to 'ilegally" make himself rich....then how about we investigate Ivanka Trump and her slimeball husband? They made something like 650 million dollars while they both were part of Trump's inside circle, officially. See, the Hunter Biden stuff happened BEFORE Biden was elected president, and once Obama left the white house in 2017 Biden had no official position......and Hunter Biden has been nowhere near the white house, has no position.

And while we are at it, how about Trump release his tax returns while he was in the White House, so we can see how much he used his position to enrich himself. We already know that he stayed at his own properties and billed the government a lot of money (which is supposed to be illegal under the constitition), but anyone wanna bet his businesses suddenly started getting great deals once he was electred president? Anyone want to trace the loans his businesses took out after he took office and see where they came from? (Hint, they were signed "With love, from Puti, your good friend).

But of course not. It will be fun to see what happens with all this, the GOP is batting like .0000001 on all their claims they throw around; election fraud, Benghazi, Whitewater, Vince Foster, Hillary's email, Hunter Biden, you name it, they spent prob 100 million dollars on this shit (outside Biden) and found in colleguial Italain, gatz. Election Fraud? In 2017, Nunes and crew spent 40 million dollars, found 80 cases of fraud..60 of which were Trump supporters (and gee, who do you think is more motivated to commit fraud, Maga nation who quite frankly are cultists, or the other side?).

The GQP throws this out there because they have a bunch of trash that eats it up, and that is all it is. See, they have a problem, just levying charges doesn't do much, you need to prove it. Just look at election fraud, everything they did turned into a disaster. They claim to have proof, get in front of a judge, and then say "I withdraw the suit", because they literally had nothing. All of Trump's lawyers are facing disciplinary action for those suits, because every one of them had no merit. Fox News thankfully isn't our legal system, and even GOP judges know that if they try and screw with rulings too much they will face a revolt and find their court becomes meaningless. The GQP can wish for Reichs courts, but we don't have them yet.

I'd like to see some proof of that and how it was related to the unsalaried positions they had in the Trump administration, Ivanka and her husband had a net worth of 740 million in April of 2017 both accepted no government salary, neither did Trump himself.

 

[Rightguide]

Joe Biden’s Released Tax Returns Don’t Explain Millions In Income. Where Did It Come From?​

BY: BOB ANDERSON
APRIL 06, 2022

The sources of President Joe Biden’s large income after he left his post as vice president have never been detailed in his tax returns.

In the week prior to the presidential election, I wrote a piece that asked the question, “Where Is Hunter Biden’s Money?” It was an important question then, even more so now. Given the legacy media’s recent validation of Hunter’s laptop that discussed a slice of equity planned for the “Big Guy” in a deal that involved an entity controlled by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), we should know if any money from it (or other foreign sources) ended up in Joe Biden’s pocket, but we don’t.

Recall that despite then-presidential candidate Biden having bragged that he had released his tax returns with what his team called “a historic level of transparency,” the truth is that he only released his individual returns. Those returns provided no detail regarding the source of most of his income, dollars that flowed to him and his wife Jill by way of S-corporations they set up shortly after his departure from the office of vice president. Those entities, CelticCapri Corp (his) and Giacoppa Corp (hers), contained more than $13 million of the $17 million the couple had reported in income after Biden left office, most of it in the first year (2017).


The same media that ignored Hunter’s laptop has shown a complete incuriosity about these entities, accepting the premise that Joe and Jill raked in $13 million from their book deal to generate their huge increase in income. We simply don’t know if that’s true, though. What we do know is that their book sales were dismal.

Perhaps sensing smoke starting to build just before the election, USA Today published a “fact check” piece that attempted to support that the Bidens earned “$15.6 million … from speaking fees and book deals” in the years 2017 through 2019 and that “more than $10 million of that total income was profits from Biden’s memoir ‘Promise Me, Dad’ and $3 million in profits from Jill Biden’s book.”

Follow the source link provided to that $10 million number, though, and you’ll end up at Joe Biden’s campaign website with financial disclosure links to only their individual returns — no S-corporation tax returns. So, in reality, readers were left with a smokescreen. (Now the financial disclosure links for 2016, 2017, and 2018 have even been changed to connect to a Democratic National Committee fundraising site via ActBlue rather than the tax documents.)

Much more here:

https://thefederalist.com/2022/04/0...in-millions-in-income-where-did-it-come-from/

Is anyone interested in the present President's income tax returns?

 

[Philthy_Phil]

I know! You are so spot on this morning!

Of course, Ivanka and Jerrod were not running, yet central to the story...

They were part of his administration you partisan halfwit.

What a dipshit trumptard. Lol

 

[njlauren]

Yes yes, exactly. Which is why the courts should have upheld those State laws mandating the release of tax returns before any candidates will be placed on the ballot in that State.

After all, the founding fathers were all about revealing personal information to the general public. Hunter should get with the program.

The founding fathers didn't ban it either, they didn't think of it. Unless you want to live in 1790, I mean literally live like they did. They didn't have income taxes in 1790, so there wouldn't be anything to release. So do we give up the FAA because the founders couldn't imagine flying?

We already give up a lot of personal information in ways the founders couldn't imagine. Then again the right wing wingnuts would't be happy, if that is the case then the only guns they are allowed to own are flintlocks and bore loading weapons, since that is all the founders knew about when they wrote the second amendent.

 

[pecksniff]

That's not a very salient point that you keep driving at.
He is very much a part of his father's and family's
business dealings, transactions and investments.

He was selling influence.

Tell me right now, in your Big Boy font,
do you condone this sort of family influence,
working for the administration in the shadows
versus doing it out in the open and willingly testifying
before the Biden Family's elected government inquisitors?

You keep trying to create this "Biden Crime Family" meme. It ain't gonna fly.

 

[HisArpy]

The founding fathers didn't ban it either, they didn't think of it. Unless you want to live in 1790, I mean literally live like they did. They didn't have income taxes in 1790, so there wouldn't be anything to release. So do we give up the FAA because the founders couldn't imagine flying?

We already give up a lot of personal information in ways the founders couldn't imagine. Then again the right wing wingnuts would't be happy, if that is the case then the only guns they are allowed to own are flintlocks and bore loading weapons, since that is all the founders knew about when they wrote the second amendent.

Lol.

How about next time you actually READ the 4th Amendment before you shoot off your mouth and make yourself look like a total ignoramous in public again? Notice the part about "secure in their houses, persons, papers, and effects"? What exactly do you think that means when it comes to the Gov MANDATING that you reveal that information without that same Gov obtaining a warrant FIRST?