Rejection and how you cope with it....

matriarch

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I'm not talking specifically about romantic or sexual rejection, but generally.

This thread has been prompted by a comment in a letter to me. Rejection, the prospect of it, and the actuality of it and how it affects our lives.

So I'll start this off with a short rendition of my own 'worst' rejection.

I had been working in a local middle school for around 4 years as a classroom assistant, and was more than ever convinced that I wanted to teach. I applied to a university close to home, to do a B.Ed (Bachelor of Education - you can't teach in UK without one- at least not in state funded schools), under their mature student scheme. This was around 14 years ago. Himself and I (he was totally supportive), had worked out the finances, and how we could just about afford it, losing my income, and mainly using any bursary to cover daily transport, so I could still live at home and not have to stay in halls. The boys were 10 and 14 then, old enough to cope.

I digress...........(a bad habit of mine)......I applied, with a very strong supportive reference from the head teacher of the school, received a form to complete. I had to also write an essay, 2000 words on 'education is for life, not work'. And 1,000 words on myself and why I wanted to teach.

I hadn't written an essay since leaving school, just short article style pieces, for my own pleasure and self-examination on various topics. This was different, but not as hard as I thought. The piece on myself was much harder.

I put my soul into those pieces, opened myself up, and spread it out on the paper for the world to see.

I was invited for interview; apparently (so I was told), if you get an interview, the rest is a formality.

They lied.

The interview was a disaster. I took my turn in a queue of other women (and a few men), being unreasonably irritated by a young woman of around 22, who was announcing - loudly, of course - to all of us, that she'd already been for 3 other interviews and been offered places at all of them..........well fuck off then, girl, and give us oldies a chance here.

I was interviewed by the head of the teacher training faculty, a woman; that went fine, no problems expressing how fulfilling I found it, but then the head of the English faculty took his turn (I had chosen to major in English).

He shredded me.

There was no finesse, no gentle probing, he simply took me apart. It was obvious I was not going to get a place, and went home partly despondent, partly relieved.

Two weeks later I received a letter, explaining how he thought I would be unable to cope with the level of academic thought and response required. He suggested I take time to study for a few A-levels to get back into the studying regime (I had left school at 16 with O levels), and then re-apply.

But attached to the letter was a small slip of paper, a printed form. There were a few words explaining, but it mainly consisted of two boxes. One was filled in with the letter 'R'. REJECT.

Now THAT is rejection, believe me.

I was pissed off with the patronising tone of his letter, but mortified to be classified as a ‘reject’. I’d never been called that in my life. It kind of slaps you in the ego.

Just over year later, with the teaching desire still in my blood, I was selected (one of 20 out of some 300 applicants - smug preen) to take part in a pilot scheme for prospective primary school teachers, run by the local Local Education Authority, and as part of that scheme was enrolled as a student with the Open University (for the non-UK, suggest you go to their website http://www.open.ac.uk/ ).

I loved it.

The way the studying was laid out, the support from a local tutor, the buzz I got from the different use of my brain. I was hooked.

7 years later, after studying 2 or 3 hours a day at home, working full time, running a home, looking after my kids, and the last two commuting 4 hours a day to and from work, I graduated with an honours degree (English, Social history, Education). My graduation day, at the age of 50, was the proudest day of my life.

I have several times been tempted to send a copy of my degree to that English tutor and suggest he roll it up and shove it somewhere.

But I'm a lady, so I didn't.

And that is how I dealt with rejection.

Mat :rose:
 
My apologies everyone, I had no idea my ramblings would be so long.

Mat :rose:
 
No need to apologize. Revenge is sweet, especially when it's earned. We all have enough rejection and disappointment in our lives. To have it delivered so rudely should be a hanging offense.

My first reaction to any rejection is hurt. Then, in the good cases, I get mad and do something about it. Other times I just get crushed. So I'm usually about one-third angry and two-thirds crushed. Sort of like a furious dwarf.

---dr.M.
 
matriarch said:
My apologies everyone, I had no idea my ramblings would be so long.

Mat :rose:

Ramble as long as you want dear, lovely tale of determination I'd call it rather than a take on rejection... Well done... Rejection can leave you feeling shit about yourself and life in general though... Main thing is, do as you did... pick yourself up and start all over again.

I get used to rejection at my age as well... all the young girls tell me to bugger off:D
 
pop_54 said:
I get used to rejection at my age as well... all the young girls tell me to bugger off:D

Fools! :rose:

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Your determination alone proves that you are no reject, M. Well done.

~lucky :rose:
 
Dammit! I so didn't need to read this thread just before I was ready to sign off and go to bed. Now I've got all kinds of thoughts flying around in my head.

Rejection is a fact of life. If it weren't you, M, that got rejected it would have been someone else. Perhaps someone lacking your strength, conviction and perseverence. As it turned out, you let it kick you in the ass for a while and then decided to make things happen through a different avenue.

My problem with rejection is not in receiving it but in giving it. There are often times I will do something I don't particularly want to do, simply because the alternative would mean rejecting someone. Sometimes it's simply saying no, while other times it is much more complicated and potentially damaging.

So I guess I'd say I struggle more on the side of reject-ing than I do of reject-ion.

~lucky
 
pop_54 said:
I get used to rejection at my age as well... all the young girls tell me to bugger off:D

......but there's plenty of older gals around.....;)

Mat
 
You know what I do when I get into a really deep funk about something that I can't seem to pull out of?




Drink heavily.

:catroar:
 
psychocatblah said:
You know what I do when I get into a really deep funk about something that I can't seem to pull out of?




Drink heavily.

:catroar:

Pour me one while you're at it.
 
matriarch said:
......but there's plenty of older gals around.....;)

Mat

They're even more likely to tell me to bugger off dear... having the experience to know where I'm coming from:devil: :D
 
For me it depends on the type of rejection.

Professionally, when it comes to writing, I have a rather flippant attitude. I had come to learn a long time ago that not everyone will like everything, but someone will like something, and so with one rejection, I send a piece out again, and again and again. Eventually someone will take.

The last time I was rejected in a non-too-kindly way, was when I wrote a kick ass speech. I was angry because I knew it was kick ass.

My subtle revenge was sitting in the audience with 500 people, and as the speech was delivered, hands raised to mouths muffling sounds of chuckles, and then an executive director who was sitting infront of me, turned to the CEO and said, "who the hell wrote this piece of shit."

I remember the words with clarity, and how they raised a particularly satisfied grin upon my face for the rest of the day. Actually, the memory still makes me smile. lol
 
Mat,
One thought, if he was such an ass he likely had a stress issue, and now quite frankly DEAD! Or at least we can hope, so much for shoving things where the sun dont shine! lol

Way to go girlfriend!! Snaps all around for Mat!
C
 
SensualCealy said:
Mat,
One thought, if he was such an ass he likely had a stress issue, and now quite frankly DEAD! Or at least we can hope, so much for shoving things where the sun dont shine! lol

Way to go girlfriend!! Snaps all around for Mat!
C


Thank you SC, *bowing, smiling*.

Loooooove the AV, by the way. ;)

Mat :rose:
 
Thanks sweetheart!
Anyone willing to go back and stick it out with a bunch of kids to get a degree deserves a damn medal!
C
 
Mat,
You should be very proud of what you've accomplished, especially a graduation at age 50! Bravo!
I don't take rejection well, in fact I take it extremely hard as I'm my own worst critic.
Nonetheless I like your idea of wanting to send your degree and provided a proper placement for it.:)

Best to you. ~A~
 
SensualCealy said:
Snaps all around for Mat!
Cealy, I love that you used that expression, makes me see pink :) . And the AV: yummy, I want a bra like that!

Mat., I love your story. I was weaned on rejection (majorly, by my own mother), even in my youth I found the balls to hit back at times (no, not my mum, or actual violence). Still, I always expect rejection and it always does me in for a time, but if it's really important to me I get my balls up and persevere.

I finished my degree at 50 too, felt great. Even went to my graduation. When it came time to cross the stage and receive my diploma and a hand shake from the dean, he instead opened his arms and gave me a hug (he knew what it meant to me). My family was impressed as I was the only one of hundreds to get a public hug.

love and love, Perdita :heart:
 
ABSTRUSE said:
Mat,
You should be very proud of what you've accomplished, especially a graduation at age 50! Bravo!
I don't take rejection well, in fact I take it extremely hard as I'm my own worst critic.
Nonetheless I like your idea of wanting to send your degree and provided a proper placement for it.:)

Best to you. ~A~

Thank you Abs, most appreciated.
It was a great day, surrounded by friends and family, my two beloved sons flanking me in photos, and a great party in the evening, with them providing the music. It was a wonderful end to 7 years' of hard graft.

Mat
 
lucky-E-leven said:
Dammit! I so didn't need to read this thread just before I was ready to sign off and go to bed. Now I've got all kinds of thoughts flying around in my head.

Rejection is a fact of life. If it weren't you, M, that got rejected it would have been someone else. Perhaps someone lacking your strength, conviction and perseverence. As it turned out, you let it kick you in the ass for a while and then decided to make things happen through a different avenue.

My problem with rejection is not in receiving it but in giving it. There are often times I will do something I don't particularly want to do, simply because the alternative would mean rejecting someone. Sometimes it's simply saying no, while other times it is much more complicated and potentially damaging.

So I guess I'd say I struggle more on the side of reject-ing than I do of reject-ion.

~lucky

Lucky, I couldn't agree more.

I have a real problem with hurtful truths, especially when I know the person I am having to be truthful with, the one I know I am going to have to reject in some way is going to be hurt, unless I handle it gently.

(Of course, there are people whom it does not bother me to reject in the slightest. And I work with quite a few of them.)

That's the hardest part of all. Trying to come up with ways of saying, I'm sorry, but............ I hope that the writer in me, the purveyor of words enables me to soften the blow each time I have to do it.

That said, I'm not made of stone, and rejection of any sort is hard to handle personally. I don't think, as human beings, we handle rejection too well. Particularly emotional rejection.

Most of us become very good at building walls made up of bricks of 'nonchalence', bonded with the mortar of 'don't care anyway'. And those walls are all too easy to push down with the hammer of kindness.

(*groan*, apologies for the appalling analogies, all I could come up with at the moment).

Mat :rose:
 
Still laughing at "furious dwarf"

The thing that bothers me about rejection (and I suppose quite a few other people) is the blow that it gives to expectation. "Not at this time." is a very handy and soft phrase that rejectionists should bear in mind. (unike reactionaries who should keep the phrase "karm down, karm down" in mind)

My favourite "I coulda been famous" story, being as how it must be at least a year since I last told it.

A long time ago I wrote a seriously funny sit-com about two 'laddish' youths who got up to all sorts of hilarious shenanigins and sent it (in turn, because they don't like you to offer anything that's being considered elsewhere) to every TV production company in the land. From every one of them I got a rejection, I got used to that pretty quickly. The most hurtful rejection I got explained that the main characters were loutish, unlikeable and not funny. 18 months later "Men Behaving Badly" from the same production company. There is no happy end to this story.

I haven't written another sit-com since.

I think I'll try my hand at some short stories (sans sex) instead.

Gauche
 
Fascinating thread. In 'the other world' I took early retirement from the UK Civil Service. I'd been knocked back for promotion too many times and I was glad to get out. My confidence was very low. A chance remark on a retraining course led me to apply to study at University (computers, not English!) and I graduated in 2001, age 57, with my faith in myself and my talents fully restored.

My pension from the Civil Service means I don't need a high paying job to live, and I started as a part-time lecturer at the University. This led me to being an Open University Associate Lecturer as well.

To get to the point of this rambling missive, I was invited to attend one of the OUs graduation ceremonies recently. I got a real kick out of seeing the graduates, several older than me, including one lady receiving a PhD, and the real pleasure on their faces, and the wonderful reception their families and friends gave them. It's never too late.

Alex
 
Wow, Alex, I didn't know that about you (obviously). I like you even more,

Perdita :rose:
 
Alex De Kok said:
To get to the point of this rambling missive, I was invited to attend one of the OUs graduation ceremonies recently. I got a real kick out of seeing the graduates, several older than me, including one lady receiving a PhD, and the real pleasure on their faces, and the wonderful reception their families and friends gave them. It's never too late.

Alex

Alex, I've been to several OU graduation ceremonies now. My own, and two friends. The last one I went to was only a month ago, my dearest friend. I was accompanied by her 38 year old son, who had travelled half the day to be there.

They are incredibly moving occasions. The audience consists of families, small children, teenagers, grown up offspring, grandparents, husbands, wives, sisters........all cheering and clapping every single graduate who passes the stage. There was a tiny little man, 77 years old, who was graduating with a Bachelor of Science. The Dean of the university led him to the front of the stage, and he received a standing ovation. Wonderful, wonderful moment.

Outside afterwards, the square outside the hall, was crammed with hundreds of graduates in their robes, with the pride of their achievement showing clearly on their faces, along with the families. I've never seen so many people posing for pictures on the steps before. It was a truly emotional, happy and affirming day.

Mat :rose:
 
If I were to be called on to describe my life in one word, that word would be "REJECTION". When I was a boym the girls rejected me; when I was a young man the young women rejected and when I became a middle aged man, the old women, the middle-aged women and the young women rejected me. I think the only place that ever didn't reject me was Skid Row, and the standards there are very low.
 
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