Rejected Story

[MotherloverSon]

My story was rejected for underage sexual content, but it has no underage sexual content. I was careful to make sure that no sex with minors was portrayed -- there's even an 18th birthday party! Where did I go wrong?

 

[MotherloverSon]

The only thing that seems questionable is this paragraph in which the mother's friends (it's an incest story, duh) express a certain admiration for her teenage son. (The mother is not portrayed as being sexually interested in her son before he turns 18):

Sometimes she would bring him into the office to help out, and her female buddies would tease her -- who is this handsome hunk accompanying her? Her boyfriend? Was Heather robbing the cradle? Heather would glower at them and mutter, "That's my son you're talking about, bitches. Go cruise the high school parking lots if that's what you want." Nobody was going to love Brian like she could!

 

[SamScribble]

My story was rejected for underage sexual content, but it has no underage sexual content. I was careful to make sure that no sex with minors was portrayed -- there's even an 18th birthday party! Where did I go wrong?

Sorry, we're not the publishers. We're just writers. If you are absolutely sure there is no underage sexual content, I suggest that you PM Laurel and respectfully request a recount.

Good luck

 

[geronimo_appleby]

The only thing that seems questionable is this paragraph in which the mother's friends (it's an incest story, duh) express a certain admiration for her teenage son. (The mother is not portrayed as being sexually interested in her son before he turns 18):

Sometimes she would bring him into the office to help out, and her female buddies would tease her -- who is this handsome hunk accompanying her? Her boyfriend? Was Heather robbing the cradle? Heather would glower at them and mutter, "That's my son you're talking about, bitches. Go cruise the high school parking lots if that's what you want." Nobody was going to love Brian like she could!

tweak that section so there's no ambiguity.

resubmit with a note to admin.

hope you're successful.

 

[Lifestyle66]

I had a story rejected for underage content when a girl was remembering an incident in 8th grade and referred to her tits. Then it also occurred to me that when talking about high schoolers, they review the story and are very quick and linear. If as they read it the picture they envision is not clearly a kid over 18-years old, I think they'll reject it.

I had to rewrite the story changing the 8th grade memory significantly, then refer to the high schoolers as seniors and already 18 years old BEFORE I mention any thoughts of groping. It was a major detractor from the original version.

 

[MotherloverSon]

I think I also got in trouble for having references to underage masturbation. It's only one line so I guess I could cut it. Or would discussion of underage pornography consumption also be a problem? (

 

[PennameWombat]

The only thing that seems questionable is this paragraph in which the mother's friends (it's an incest story, duh) express a certain admiration for her teenage son. (The mother is not portrayed as being sexually interested in her son before he turns 18):

Sometimes she would bring him into the office to help out, and her female buddies would tease her -- who is this handsome hunk accompanying her? Her boyfriend? Was Heather robbing the cradle? Heather would glower at them and mutter, "That's my son you're talking about, bitches. Go cruise the high school parking lots if that's what you want." Nobody was going to love Brian like she could!

That will do it. I had a story rejected because a mother at a children's swimming pool made a pass at an over 18 guy (my male MC) who worked at the pool. I modified it so the children were off with their grandmother and the mother was at the "adults" pool (it was a municipal complex with multiple pools.) The children weren't even the target, they were just 'near'.

You could try to explain this to Laurel (modulo the recommendation in this thread) or you'll have to rewrite this section to remove anyone making any sexual references to him while he's under 18.

That's the way it is around here.

 

[MotherloverSon]

As far as I can tell, the potential problems are, in order of appearance in the story:
1. Grown women teasing a mother about how handsome her underage son is. Mother responds by telling them to go pick up boys at the high school if that's what they're after.
2. A mutual crush between teacher and student that is specifically described as non-sexual.
3. A paragraph about underage pornography consumption, ending with a brief mention of underage masturbation.
4. Discussion of an underage boy's interest in older women, but no talk of actual sexual behavior. Indeed it's not clear that his interest is sexual.

Those are followed by an 18th birthday party, and all other sexual content comes after that.

Which of those are problems?

 

[PennameWombat]

I think I also got in trouble for having references to underage masturbation. It's only one line so I guess I could cut it. Or would discussion of underage pornography consumption also be a problem? (

All of this is probably bad . No sexual references to, by, from anyone under 18.

 

[KeithD]

Every time one of my stories has been rejected for underage (which I don't include in my stories) I returned it with the note that there is no underage sex in it and requesting that Laurel point out the suspect passages, and every time that was all that was required--it was then posted as originally written. That may be all you need to do.

 

[Lifestyle66]

Which of those are problems?

Basically anything and everything referring to underage kids and sex or body parts or even remembering such thing in a later discussion would be rejected.

In my story, I had to change a high schooler thinking about first seeing the girl showing up in 8th grade with 38-D tits to remembering her showing up looking as mature as a busty hot young teacher.

 

[Bramblethorn]

As far as I can tell, the potential problems are, in order of appearance in the story:
1. Grown women teasing a mother about how handsome her underage son is. Mother responds by telling them to go pick up boys at the high school if that's what they're after.
2. A mutual crush between teacher and student that is specifically described as non-sexual.
3. A paragraph about underage pornography consumption, ending with a brief mention of underage masturbation.
4. Discussion of an underage boy's interest in older women, but no talk of actual sexual behavior. Indeed it's not clear that his interest is sexual.

Those are followed by an 18th birthday party, and all other sexual content comes after that.

Which of those are problems?

IMHO, based on previous discussions about what has and hasn't been rejected: #3 definitely, #1 and #4 probably. (This is an erotica site; his interest is gonna be assumed sexual unless clearly established otherwise.)

#2 maybe depending on how it's handled. If it were me, I would avoid language like "crush" that's commonly used to express attraction, and instead write something like "she was my favourite teacher, I hung on her every word, and she always had time to explain stuff to me".

Stories that mention children in non-sexual contexts are permitted on Literotica, but can easily be rejected by accident - it appears Laurel will sometimes send these back with an "is there under-age sexual content in this?" query rather than reading through closely to check just how the under-age characters are handled.

If that happens, the fix is to mention in the Notes field that there are kids but no under-age sexual activity, and then they'll get a more careful look. But the content you've described won't get through moderation.

 

[jaF0]

Which of those are problems?

All of them.

 

[ElectricBlue]

I think I also got in trouble for having references to underage masturbation. It's only one line so I guess I could cut it. Or would discussion of underage pornography consumption also be a problem? (

Setting aside the elements you cited earlier (which would be borderline at the best of times), these two alone would get a bump.

You've got a rejection bonanza, to be honest. Lose this back story stuff (which is all it sounds like to me), and write about adults. Sure, mom and son adults, but have them at least try to act like adults.

 

[geronimo_appleby]

As far as I can tell, the potential problems are, in order of appearance in the story:
1. Grown women teasing a mother about how handsome her underage son is. Mother responds by telling them to go pick up boys at the high school if that's what they're after.
2. A mutual crush between teacher and student that is specifically described as non-sexual.
3. A paragraph about underage pornography consumption, ending with a brief mention of underage masturbation.
4. Discussion of an underage boy's interest in older women, but no talk of actual sexual behavior. Indeed it's not clear that his interest is sexual.

Those are followed by an 18th birthday party, and all other sexual content comes after that.

Which of those are problems?

FFS, how difficult is it?

just DO NOT mention, hint at, allude to, make oblique reference to, under 18.

and all will be sweet.

 

[rescatooor]

Characters waiting for a character turn 18 in order to have sex with them is kind of yikes for Literotica, even if it is a fact that sexual development does not happen overnight.

I think the story in question may be irredeemable for Literotica. Sorry.

 

[MotherloverSon]

OK, I get the point. I’ll either eliminate these scenes or edit them in a way that hopefully makes them less objectionable. I’ll also change the 18th birthday party scene into something else like a Christmas party.

If anyone wants to read the story and give me advice, just contact me.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

There is a sticky up top about underage sex in stories. Even a reference to an underage character will and could trigger a automatic rejection. I don't think I'm giving away any secrets but they run a process/script against each story that searches for all the rules. If they find one then bang reject. It might just be a reference to a child or just the word child in proximity to a sexual act that triggers the rejection.

Computers, once programmed, are much better at spotting things that shouldn't be than a human. Although in some cases a human should review what the computer found which I assume is what Laurel does yet some still may slip by her either way.

And newer authors are scrutinized more closely than established authors.

Suggestion... don't include anything sexual about a character who is or was under 18. Make so that an 18 year old has had a lobotomy at the age of 18 as far a anything sexual is concerned. No memories.

 

[NotWise]

OK, I get the point. I’ll either eliminate these scenes or edit them in a way that hopefully makes them less objectionable. I’ll also change the 18th birthday party scene into something else like a Christmas party.

If anyone wants to read the story and give me advice, just contact me.

You can probably keep all that if you age the boy up to college. How long is the story?

There isn't enough information to say whether any of the four possibilities is actually a problem. Everything depends on how it's written.

As far as I can tell, the potential problems are, in order of appearance in the story:
1. Grown women teasing a mother about how handsome her underage son is. Mother responds by telling them to go pick up boys at the high school if that's what they're after.

This doesn't place an underage character in a sexual situation, but if you write it with a lot of lascivious observations, then it might step over the line. There's no reason that it has to.

2. A mutual crush between teacher and student that is specifically described as non-sexual.

There's no reason to think a teacher/student relationship would be sexual. Can you just make them friends? Avoid any association with sex -- really, don't even say the relationship is non-sexual. Don't use the word "crush." You're bringing in things that don't need to be said.

3. A paragraph about underage pornography consumption, ending with a brief mention of underage masturbation.

This would be the most difficult thing to write around. Your best bet is to not go there at all.

4. Discussion of an underage boy's interest in older women, but no talk of actual sexual behavior. Indeed it's not clear that his interest is sexual.

Like #1, this doesn't necessarily place an underage character in a sexual situation, but you could make it sexual if, for instance, he's making observations about their boobs or catching an up-skirt glimpse. You could easily write around any problem just by saying exactly what his interests are in older women, and not mentioning anything remotely sexy.

Those are followed by an 18th birthday party, and all other sexual content comes after that.

Which of those are problems?

Just age the character up to college, and you can do about anything you want. Be very careful with any underage backstory. Sexual content, including arousal, masturbation, or sexual curiosity, has to be implied; nothing can be described in any way.

It's hard enough to write around that you may just want to avoid it.

 

[MotherloverSon]

The problem with aging the son up to college:

Harder to make him as super-inexperienced as I want him to be.
Harder to have a near-claustrophobic relationship between him and his mother. Brian loves loves loves his mother and finds it difficult to make friends with those his own age, but thinks his mom’s friends are cool.
I also want the son to be, yes, horny but also a little repressed.

 

[NotWise]

The problem with aging the son up to college:

Harder to make him as super-inexperienced as I want him to be.
Harder to have a near-claustrophobic relationship between him and his mother. Brian loves loves loves his mother and finds it difficult to make friends with those his own age, but thinks his mom’s friends are cool.
I also want the son to be, yes, horny but also a little repressed.

The problem with aging the son up is that you want him to be a child. There's the root of your problem.

 

[geronimo_appleby]

The problem with aging the son up to college:

Harder to make him as super-inexperienced as I want him to be.
Harder to have a near-claustrophobic relationship between him and his mother. Brian loves loves loves his mother and finds it difficult to make friends with those his own age, but thinks his mom’s friends are cool.
I also want the son to be, yes, horny but also a little repressed.

so, Leonard Hofstadter?

why not intro Brian exactly as above?

boom - brian's a virgin with mommy issues/fixation?

start it with him on his first day in college

Brian's relationship with his mother was near-claustrophobic, etc.

 

[jaF0]

The problem ...

... is YOU not wanting to go by the rules.

 

[geronimo_appleby]

... is YOU not wanting to go by the rules.

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[Djmac1031]

I think I also got in trouble for having references to underage masturbation. It's only one line so I guess I could cut it. Or would discussion of underage pornography consumption also be a problem? (

I think your best bet is to cut out all references to anything underage.

Realistic? No. We all know minors masturbate and explore sex. But the rules here seem pretty strict on this matter.

My Discovering Amy series features two virgin characters and while referencing Amy's discovery of masturbation I had to specifically state she only started at 18 although realistically we all know she would have been doing it much earlier.

Rules are rules.