Redistricting Wars

[BabyBoomer50s]

Hope everyone on this thread is keeping up with the SCOTUS hearing today on the Louisiana case. The court’s ruling could have a profound impact on the make up of Congress.

Interesting take from a thoughtful and experienced Democratic operative I’ve been listening to for several months now.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1978530681882894805

 

[MajorRewrite]

Hope everyone on this thread is keeping up with the SCOTUS hearing today on the Louisiana case. The court’s ruling could have a profound impact on the make up of Congress.

The Voting Rights Act stops (mostly southern) states from drawing districts based on race to disenfranchise minority voters.

I can see why you oppose that.

 

[MajorRewrite]

I support republican gerrymandering just to catch up!!

You are a true stable genius.

 

[icanhelp1]

You are a true stable genius.

And you’re the epitome of hypocrisy.

 

[MajorRewrite]

And you’re the epitome of hypocrisy.

Because I consistently oppose gerrymandering? Try to make sense.

Let’s put it this way, the Democrats came within a couple of votes in Congress of outlawing gerrymandering nationwide. The Republicans opposed that bill, of course, and have never tried to pass such a thing themselves.

Gerrymandering is election fraud, and the Republicans support it.

 

[icanhelp1]

Because I consistently oppose gerrymandering? Try to make sense.

Let’s put it this way, the Democrats came within a couple of votes in Congress of outlawing gerrymandering nationwide. The Republicans opposed that bill, of course, and have never tried to pass such a thing themselves.

Gerrymandering is election fraud, and the Republicans support it.

I live in New England. When things are balanced I'll support abolishing gerrymandering. I can understand why you'd agree to abolishing gerrymandering now...YOU'RE AHEAD!

I find it astonishing that New England, as a whole, republicans have an estimate of between 30 to 35 % vote share with not on one republican house member and only one RINO senator. Every blue moon we win a gubernatorial race but the governor is nothing more than figurehead rendered impotent due to democrat majorities in state and federal legislative bodies.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

The Voting Rights Act stops (mostly southern) states from drawing districts based on race to disenfranchise minority voters.

I can see why you oppose that.

Times have changed. I’m open minded. The question is in the hands of the highest court in the land. I look forward to reading their ruling and opinions.

 

[ll74]

Tell AI to review results in the state for as long as it is capable and then have it produce the most competitive districts for it.

 

[MajorRewrite]

I live in New England. When things are balanced I'll support abolishing gerrymandering. I can understand why you'd agree to abolishing gerrymandering now...YOU'RE AHEAD!

Totally Fact Free Icanhelp strikes again!

Republicans benefit more from current gerrymandering. They’re “ahead”.

Both parties engaged in gerrymandering after the 2020 census, but, overall, the bias in this cycle’s maps strongly favors Republicans due primarily to aggressive gerrymandering in GOP strongholds in the South and Midwest. In total, the Brennan Center estimates that this gerrymandering will give Republicans an advantage of around 16 House seats in the 2024 race to control Congress compared to fair maps.

It is no surprise that the effects of gerrymandering tilt in favor of the GOP. This decade, as last, Republicans disproportionately controlled the redistricting process, drawing 191 (or 44 percent) of the districts that will be used in this year’s elections. By contrast, Democrats fully controlled the drawing of only 75 districts. The rest were drawn by commissions, courts, or divided governments.

Source

You’re upset about gerrymandering, but you don’t oppose it nationwide. That’s brilliant.

 

[Chernosoth]

Tell AI to review results in the state for as long as it is capable and then have it produce the most competitive districts for it.

Large Language Models use tremendous amounts of water and electricity, and they're owned by huge and extremely wealthy corporations. Any one of those details would be enough to say we can't afford to let LLMs do our thinking for us.

 

[ll74]

Large Language Models use tremendous amounts of water and electricity, and they're owned by huge and extremely wealthy corporations. Any one of those details would be enough to say we can't afford to let LLMs do our thinking for us.

I disagree.

 

[latecomer91364]

Odds are that SCOTUS will throw out the Voting Rights Act completely, or at least get rid of those portions that permit redistricting based on the racial makeup of the population.

Get rid of the whole thing and start over, if need be.

 

[icanhelp1]

Odds are that SCOTUS will throw out the Voting Rights Act completely, or at least get rid of those portions that permit redistricting based on the racial makeup of the population.

Get rid of the whole thing and start over, if need be.

That’s a possibility. Creating majority minority districts is what democrats have been getting away with. Race based redistricting.

• The Supreme Court's rare decision to schedule a re-argument on a broader question—whether the VRA provision used to create majority-minority districts is constitutional—suggests the court may reconsider decades of precedent.
• The conservative majority's questions and comments during the hearing suggest a potential outcome that would curtail or eliminate the use of race as a factor in redistricting.

Louisiana v. Callais
This case challenges a Louisiana congressional map that was redrawn to include a second majority-Black district, as required by an earlier court ruling. A group of non-Black voters sued, arguing the map was an unconstitutional racial gerrymander.

• Oral Arguments: During the October 15, 2025 arguments, the court's conservative majority appeared open to significantly limiting or ending the ability to use race as a factor in drawing electoral maps to comply with the Voting Rights Act (VRA).
• Potential Outcome: The court could weaken or eliminate Section 2 of the VRA, which prohibits voting practices that discriminate based on race. This could make it more difficult to challenge maps that dilute minority voting power and could lead to Republicans gaining more seats in the House.

 

[icanhelp1]

Massachusetts 2021

A 2004 federal court case successfully challenged a Massachusetts legislative map for diluting minority voting power, leading to a new, fairer map for the 2004 elections
. In the most recent 2021 redistricting cycle, Massachusetts deliberately created majority-minority districts to increase representation, with advocacy groups and community organizers participating in the process.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Massachusetts 2021

A 2004 federal court case successfully challenged a Massachusetts legislative map for diluting minority voting power, leading to a new, fairer map for the 2004 elections
. In the most recent 2021 redistricting cycle, Massachusetts deliberately created majority-minority districts to increase representation, with advocacy groups and community organizers participating in the process.

As I said: You’re upset about gerrymandering, but you don’t oppose it nationwide. That’s brilliant.

 

[ChloeTzang]

I love these two map. A picture really is worth a thousand words.

NC Democratic Party@NCDemParty
TODAY NC Republicans are passing yet another extreme gerrymander, taking our 50/50 state and giving themselves 11 of our 14 congressional seats.
We’re sharing the testimonies of the 84% of North Carolinians who are against political parties drawing themselves into power.

Good to see NC FRepublicans fixing the gerrymandering problem in North Carolina

 

[MajorRewrite]

taking our 50/50 state and giving themselves 11 of our 14 congressional seats

Chloe is pretending this isn’t true. Pretending is dumb.

 

[ll74]

I love these two map. A picture really is worth a thousand words.

NC Democratic Party@NCDemParty
TODAY NC Republicans are passing yet another extreme gerrymander, taking our 50/50 state and giving themselves 11 of our 14 congressional seats.
We’re sharing the testimonies of the 84% of North Carolinians who are against political parties drawing themselves into power.

Good to see NC FRepublicans fixing the gerrymandering problem in North Carolina

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Both parties gerrymander.
Therefore both parties can validly call out the other for doing so.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Chloe is pretending this isn’t true. Pretending is dumb.

Top vs bottom. Contiguous geograpically. Districts aren't supposed to be based on political parties or voters skin color.

The top map is the way they should be and let the dice fall where they may - - or go to proportionate representation which ensures a much fairer distribution of representatives based on who votes for what - that's my personal choice. It also allows other parties to emerge and forces coalitions to get anything thru

Or you do a combo where 50% are based on geographical districts and 50% are based on proportional representation. Lots of ways of achieving that balance WITHOUT doing the Map 2 nonsense

As it is, Democrats started this, Republicans are, far too slowly, learning from them. As always, Dems screw around, Republicans learn from them, and Dems get bitten

If you don't like it, Dems could start by reoing the distructs in all those states where they have gerrymandering Repiublican reps out

 

[ChloeTzang]

Both parties gerrymander.
Therefore both parties can validly call out the other for doing so.

100%

 

[MajorRewrite]

Districts aren't supposed to be based on political parties or voters skin color.

That’s all you needed to write. The Republicans have gerrymandered a 50/50 state (that elects Democrat governors) to take 11 of 14 congressional seats for themselves.

Stable genius.

 

[wallstreetguy]

We are living in a Golden Age. Trump is saving the nation (and the world) by creating infrastructure for long-term GOP domination in certain states and regions. Redistricting, Blue state refugees and Dem stupidity is creating Fortress America!
Can you imagine if RBG had retired and Obama got some lefty lunatic in there? LOL. Thankfully, her hubris and her media cheerleaders kept her there to her dying day. SCOTUS rocks!

 

[ChloeTzang]

That’s all you needed to write. The Republicans have gerrymandered a 50/50 state (that elects Democrat governors) to take 11 of 14 congressional seats for themselves.

Stable genius.

LOL.

Look. At. The. Map.

 

[ll74]

100%

My position continues to be - make gerrymandering illegal.

 

[MajorRewrite]

LOL.

Look. At. The. Map.

LOL look at the gerrymandering of Congressional seats in a 50/50 state.

Democrats hold half of its statewide elected offices, including the governor, secretary of state and attorney general. In 2024, 46% of votes for Congress went to Democratic candidates.

North Carolina had a law banning gerrymandering until the Republicans dumped it.

State law – and a state supreme court controlled by Democrats – had prevented extreme gerrymanders in the past. But Republicans elected a majority of North Carolina supreme court justices in 2022.

Buoyed by Rucho v Common Cause – a 2019 US supreme court case from North Carolina that ruled partisan gerrymandering was effectively legal – North Carolina immediately replaced a court-mandated congressional map.

Tell me again who sTaRTeD iT?

Poor mindless MAGA sheep supports gerrymandering because Crooked Donnie told him to.