Realistic Sex Scenes

[Trinique_Fire]

Realistic sex scenes. Feel free to use this thread for more questions about realistic sex scenes/"would this work in my story?" style questions.

One female sitting on another female's shoulders and getting eaten out.

There's a wall involved, so presumably, no one is losing their balance. Is this realistic? Or is more like a porno pipe dream?

 

[Voboy]

My reactions:

Who's got ceilings that high?
Why wouldn't they just lie down?
Why are they choosing such an uncomfortable and dangerous position?

Since you asked.

 

[sr71plt]

There's a wide, gray band on what would be "realistic." At the bottom end of that would be a lot of stuff that will kill any feeling of arousal/eroticism for most (although it would turn some others on, so it would be fine for that group). Toward the top of that bad are situations/acts that could be done but aren't normally and descriptions that filter out a lot of the grosser or sillier aspects of sex--or that reshapes them to highlight them as erotic in their own right.

If you are actually living this act, it will work most the time to hit in the middle of that gray band. But if you are writing it to evoke arousal and eroticism, you'd get the greatest response by hitting in the upper limits of the band or to cater to smaller niche interests and play in the bottom quadrant (and be content that you are writing to a smaller, targeted demographic).

So, in erotica terms, I don't think that "what is realistic?" is nearly the relevant question as is "what meets the need of the reader?" I don't think there are many erotica readers who make the effort to come here to read something in the middle of that band.

 

[Trinique_Fire]

There's a wide, gray band on what would be "realistic." At the bottom end of that would be a lot of stuff that will kill any feeling of arousal/eroticism for most (although it would turn some others on, so it would be fine for that group). Toward the top of that bad are situations/acts that could be done but aren't normally and descriptions that filter out a lot of the grosser or sillier aspects of sex--or that reshapes them to highlight them as erotic in their own right.

If you are actually living this act, it will work most the time to hit in the middle of that gray band. But if you are writing it to evoke arousal and eroticism, you'd get the greatest response by hitting in the upper limits of the band or to cater to smaller niche interests and play in the bottom quadrant (and be content that you are writing to a smaller, targeted demographic).

So, in erotica terms, I don't think that "what is realistic?" is nearly the relevant question as is "what meets the need of the reader?" I don't think there are many erotica readers who make the effort to come here to read something in the middle of that band.

Very good points, and things to think about. This story, however, will not be posted to Literotica because there is an aspect of it I'm not willing to change that does not meet site expectations (specifically age), so I'm not concerned about any readers here, per say.

I've never been on anyone's shoulders, nor has anyone been on mine...for sex, anyway, so I'm definitely out of my depth here.

 

[Trinique_Fire]

My reactions:

Who's got ceilings that high?
Why wouldn't they just lie down?
Why are they choosing such an uncomfortable and dangerous position?

Since you asked.

The apartment in the story has high ceilings.
It's complicated, but the young lady in question decided to make a move to dart out the door, but the other woman stopped her, hence, sex continued against the door.

My alternative here is to have the older woman pick the young lady up and carry her off to the bedroom, which might win more sexy points in the long run...

 

[Hypoxia]

Realism is whatever you can get away with but IMHO it's best to remain mostly within known physical laws. For your scene, the eater is strong and the eaten is light-weight. The closer they are in size, the more "porno pipe dream". Or maybe their padded wall is angled slightly and has enough of a lip to support a butt at the right level.

A different setting: they're in a warm pond with an inflated innertube. The eaten lounges within the innertube, legs spread. We know where the eater is. In water, they're effectively weightless. No muscle strain. Fun!

 

[Trinique_Fire]

Realism is whatever you can get away with but IMHO it's best to remain mostly within known physical laws. For your scene, the eater is strong and the eaten is light-weight. The closer they are in size, the more "porno pipe dream". Or maybe their padded wall is angled slightly and has enough of a lip to support a butt at the right level.

A different setting: they're in a warm pond with an inflated innertube. The eaten lounges within the innertube, legs spread. We know where the eater is. In water, they're effectively weightless. No muscle strain. Fun!

The eater IS strong. Tall, strong, take charge, no bullshit. She wants what she wants, she hunts it and takes it. The eaten is lightweight in comparison to the eater, for sure. She's younger, for one, and shorter.

I like the angled wall idea. It could really work.

 

[TxRad]

Hey TF, long time no see.

The corner of the wall might give more stability. Sliding along the wall to the corner could add interest. Or ending up on the fireplace mantle. How realistic does erotic fantasy have to be? As realistic as you need it to be.

 

[Trinique_Fire]

Hey TF, long time no see.

The corner of the wall might give more stability. Sliding along the wall to the corner could add interest. Or ending up on the fireplace mantle. How realistic does erotic fantasy have to be? As realistic as you need it to be.

Hey, old man. Figured I'd just slip in unannounced (that's what she said).

Corner of the wall is ALSO a great idea! I'm starting to see that perhaps I don't have to give up on the dream. No fireplace mantle in the story, but that's okay.

 

[SimonDoom]

So, in erotica terms, I don't think that "what is realistic?" is nearly the relevant question as is "what meets the need of the reader?" I don't think there are many erotica readers who make the effort to come here to read something in the middle of that band.

This pretty well summarizes my view of erotica and realism. I think erotica is, in general, a form of fantasy, and fantasy is what most readers want. I speak for myself on this point, but I think it's true for most other readers as well. The key to making fantasy work is not realism but verisimilitude-- not reality, but the appearance of reality. The author must include at least some details that make the fantasy seem real enough. The reader can be asked to suspend disbelief, but not too many times in one story.

To answer the OP's specific question: there's no question that the OP's scenario can be made to work. The author has to take care to add a few details that make the scenario compelling, and to make it seem real even if it is not.

 

[Blind_Justice]

Realistic sex scenes? Easy. Don't have the males cum like firehoses more than twice. I'm greatly amused at some stories where the protagonist can give it to his harem all night long, depositing huge loads in excess of ten times. Sure, staying power is no longer an issue, Viagra be praised, but the tank's dry eventually.

As for on the shoulders oral: It might be a bit problematic to get at anything but the pubes though. The slit sits pretty low and when the recipient is straddling the shoulders, it would end up below chin level. The person on top would need to lean back quite a bit, causing all kinds of balance issues. Or the licker would need Gene Simmons' tongue, but who finds that erotic? I mean, I'm sometimes into tentacle sex and all, but Gene Simmons? Ewwww.

 

[Trinique_Fire]

This pretty well summarizes my view of erotica and realism. I think erotica is, in general, a form of fantasy, and fantasy is what most readers want. I speak for myself on this point, but I think it's true for most other readers as well. The key to making fantasy work is not realism but verisimilitude-- not reality, but the appearance of reality. The author must include at least some details that make the fantasy seem real enough. The reader can be asked to suspend disbelief, but not too many times in one story.

To answer the OP's specific question: there's no question that the OP's scenario can be made to work. The author has to take care to add a few details that make the scenario compelling, and to make it seem real even if it is not.

Thank you. Yes, verisimilitude is exactly what I'm going for.

How would you make the scenario work? I've gotten a couple good ideas from this thread, but I'm interested to hear what details you would add, and how you'd make the scenario seem doable.

 

[Trinique_Fire]

Realistic sex scenes? Easy. Don't have the males cum like firehoses more than twice. I'm greatly amused at some stories where the protagonist can give it to his harem all night long, depositing huge loads in excess of ten times. Sure, staying power is no longer an issue, Viagra be praised, but the tank's dry eventually.

As for on the shoulders oral: It might be a bit problematic to get at anything but the pubes though. The slit sits pretty low and when the recipient is straddling the shoulders, it would end up below chin level. The person on top would need to lean back quite a bit, causing all kinds of balance issues.

HA! I don't write male characters in a sexual capacity...ever...so that's not an issue, but I promise to pass that tidbit along to my writer friends who do seem to think that men are insatiable, cumming bastards.

That was my concern. If the eaten is just sort of sitting there, the eater can...what...nibble on pubes and/or skin? Yeah...not what I'm going for. I had this idea that then eaten would sort of lean her shoulders back against the wall, giving the eater an opportunity to really eat, but I'm worried about potential catastrophe. That's where I thought I'd bring the slanted wall into play, but I'm still not 100% convinced. I might just let the older woman stay on her knees and eat the girl into oblivion there against the door and then move along.

 

[SimonDoom]

Thank you. Yes, verisimilitude is exactly what I'm going for.

How would you make the scenario work? I've gotten a couple good ideas from this thread, but I'm interested to hear what details you would add, and how you'd make the scenario seem doable.

Two thoughts:

1. The woman doing the carrying should be bigger and stronger than the other one. The woman being carried/eaten should be petite and light. Make a point of including these details in the story.

2. Or, make a point of emphasizing that the woman below has to struggle to carry the other woman, making it that much more satisfying when she is able to do so and eat her out.

You can go in either direction, and you don't need a lot of detail and explanation -- just enough to render the scenario not inherently UNbelievable.

 

[PuckIt]

For what it's worth, here's my two cents;

1) People have a tendency to call bullshit on weird things. A fourteen inch penis that gets used on mother, two aunts, six sisters, and fourteen cousins and then all together at the same time is no big deal. But, mention the primary has the secondary against the wall while the secondary has one foot on the ground and the other over their head and bullshit flags abound. I guess these people have never heard of ballet or something.

2) I've got no problem seeing the two girls, one on the others shoulders against even just a normal wall. But, frankly, that may be because I have seen it. Now, the longer it goes on, the more trouble I'll have, sure. Even Raye Hollitt would have some trouble hitting the half hour mark.

I think where you may be running into trouble with the scene is because you are imagining the pair in almost a straight line. And probably the girl on bottom holding the legs of the one on top. At least that was what I was envisioning from what you wrote and yes, that would be remarkably unstable unless BOTH were practiced dancers and gymnasts or yogis.

In the RL event I witnessed, the eater was more leaning against the wall. Her feet were shifted back at ... mmm... call it about 20 to 25 degrees. (Hey, it's not like I got a measuring tape out. I was otherwise occupied!) Her hands were flat against the wall, not around the upper girl's legs or butt.

The girl on top, her shoulders and upper back were pressed against the wall, and one arm was bent back and up over her head to plant that hand against the wall (for stabilization I guess) and her other hand was clutching the hair of the one on the ground. Her hips were NOT against the wall. Partially because her legs were hooked over the other girl's shoulders, but partially because she was lifting herself for easier, deeper access (I think). If the top girl's legs were over the bottom girl's ARMS, that's going to be a whole lot harder. Even if the bottom girl had the strength to get her there, she wouldn't have the endurance to keep her there. On the shoulders, though, the weight would be supported by the shoulders, torso, and legs, all stronger than the arms.

It didn't go on for a crazy amount of time. I sincerely doubt they maintained it for even five minutes, although it was long enough for Sh-... uh, the girl on top to have an orgasm.

As far as the heights of the ceilings, around these parts I guess the standard is to have ceilings pretty high due to the heat. But, in the event, it wasn't even close to a problem. The taller of the two girls was 5'8" and the smaller was about 5'2" (less than half that was from the waist up). An eight foot ceiling might have been an issue if they were standing straight and stretching, but they were more leaning against the wall.

Sidenote; you didn't ask, but both happened to be cheerleaders. And yes, the one on top was typically the one being thrown up in the air by the other girls. And yes, the one on bottom was the one who was usually doing the throwing and catching.

Edit; Oh, forgot to mention. They were standing on CARPET. Rugs on slippery tile would NOT work unless you wanted to give the one on bottom a busted lip and the one on top a sore clit.

 

[sr71plt]

Methinks some of you don't understand what erotica is all about.

 

[8letters]

If it's realistic, you can find a porn video of it or something very similar. Search for "Lesbians oral against the wall" and see what you can find. The video may give you some ideas for the scene.

 

[HeyAll]

It could happen in real life, but in a story it may confuse people or sound unrealistic, unless you explained that one person was so much bigger and stronger than the other.

 

[Dream_Operator]

I reckon Chyna (the wrestler RIP) could've pulled it off in her prime and make it her signature move. But what would she call it? The Sky High Munchalator?

 

[Kantarii]

Another suggestion could be the corner railing on a back patio deck. That way, one could liezurely sit on the railing and not have to be held up in the air and have support when the legs are spread open
Kant

 

[Trinique_Fire]

Another suggestion could be the corner railing on a back patio deck. That way, one could liezurely sit on the railing and not have to be held up in the air and have support when the legs are spread open
Kant

I'm terrified she'd fall twenty stories.

 

[Trinique_Fire]

So after much consideration (reading everyone's ideas, chatting with my wife, doing some quiet reflecting), I've decided to shelve the shoulder move for the time being. While it might be realistic with a few tweaks, it's not a realistic expectation for the older woman character in my story to foist on the young, impressionable, nervous virgin in my story.

At least, not yet.

 

[Eroticalover1968]

How about the standing 69 position? Seems like it would work.

 

[Trinique_Fire]

How about the standing 69 position? Seems like it would work.

Seems legit.

 

[HandsInTheDark]

So after much consideration (reading everyone's ideas, chatting with my wife, doing some quiet reflecting), I've decided to shelve the shoulder move for the time being. While it might be realistic with a few tweaks, it's not a realistic expectation for the older woman character in my story to foist on the young, impressionable, nervous virgin in my story.

At least, not yet.

Yeah. If the younger girl is really not ok with this - aka, this is noncon, not reluctance - she'll have no problem upsetting the balancing act and getting away. If she wanted it all along there would be squirming and protesting but somehow, almost magically, she'll stay pinned. Which is so blatantly "I want this" that it might wreck the mood you seem to be aiming for.

This is what the floor is for.