Realism versus Fantasy

bisexplicit

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Just out of curiousity...

In erotica stories, do you prefer to have the situation/characters be mostly planted in reality or largely fictional?
 
i think you're asking if we prefer our pr0n/erotica to be contemporary or history/genre stuff. is that right?

me personally, i prefer reality, hands down, but damned if i can understand why. maybe that's what comes of having one's first taste of erotica being penthouse forum... :>

ed
 
Realism vs. Fantasy - I'm increasingly beginning to think that erotica never attains to 'realism' - individual works refer back to the conventions established others, not outwards to 'real life'. This is an argument that has been made about fiction in general, but it's especially obvious when it comes to erotica, which is a kind of self-referring continuum, a genre with its own expectations which are always met. Which is not to say that some stories aren't very exciting and well-crafted - just that they are all essentially fantasies.

-t
 
bisexplicit said:
Just out of curiousity...

In erotica stories, do you prefer to have the situation/characters be mostly planted in reality or largely fictional?

Most fiction is planted in reality.

If you're talking about the 18" cocks, (makes me roll my eye) that can penetrate a woman's cervix, (makes me hit the back button) and ejaculate a gallon of fresh cum (my reaction ranged from amusing to queasy) then I'd definitely say I want more reality.

If you're talking about wizards summoning tentacle demons in order to ravish a virginal elfin babe, then I'm all for fantasy.
 
By fantasy, I meant a lot of ideas that I see popping up on this board...A school of sex or something like that.
By reality, I meant something that could "possibly" happen. While I realize that the majority of lit stories are fictional and not very likely to occur, I am meaning more along the lines of things set in our present or past.
 
This is the story idea board. Most threads are based around 'fresh' ideas that the starter couldn't find any/enough of.

The extent to which any popular entertainment is realistic is dubious. The reason fiction is satisfying is because it is both more interesting and logical than real life. Take Law & Order, it bills itself as a realistic crime drama, yet the majority of murders in the real world feature an obvious killer who was close the victim or are never solved.

Verisimilitude is the *illusion* of reality; actual boring, tedious, and pointless reality need not apply.
 
My opinion... for the 2 cents its worth~ *grins*

Thinkin it is more real when dealing with reality situations. I tend to write that way ... Then I carry it into my own lil fantasy world, yet it can and is real to the reader .. Sticking to what can really happen, tends to stimulate the imagiation of the reader a lil bit more.... Just my opinion~ :)
 
Most people will much rather prefure a Realistic type of erotica or pornagraphy. this is because they have a better time relating, improvising the main charicter with them self and getting off to it easly. since it is a near realistic situation, which could possibly happen. the idea that it 'could happen' makes it all the much more arrousing. Fantasy (the way you are using it) is simply one of the simply realistic situations (say: i want to have sex with this collage student) put to the uptmost extream. (ie: Hardcore Sex in the Class room in these skimply dressed Students!) its extream makes it not so realistic but still the idea of a possiblilty still exisits.

now fantasy- as portrayed by some one else- put on by the idea of purple haired elven girls with deep red eyes and a never ending fountain of cum being milked for her health restoring cum, by an evil necromancer by a huge shadow tentical is usualy pure fantasy, and pure fantasy can only be shown in most forms of anime in the form of henti. and i much prefure it. but then again i tend to like to live in a fantasy.
 
My stories begin with my fantasy, but I try to make it as "realistic" (I dislike using that word. It can mean too many different things) as possible. If you can accept the fantasy premise (magic formula, several women sharing one man without any jealousy, whatever), everything else unfolds as "realistically" as I can make it.
 
18 inch cocks bad.
Tentacle monsters, much better. LoL.
I don't know what is worse the fact that somebody said that or that I understand and agree.
 
bisexplicit said:
Just out of curiousity...

In erotica stories, do you prefer to have the situation/characters be mostly planted in reality or largely fictional?
For me it's like movies; I like plausibility. In the least a story needs to abide by it's own rules. I enjoy science fiction and fantasy, so I don't require strict, grounded in real lifeness.

I tend to think good fiction treads the line between reality and fiction carefully.
 
For me, mostly fictional, I guess. I like escaping into a fantasy world of huge breasts and mammoth cocks. I suppose if I read enough of them it'll eventually get old. I'm willing to suspend disbelief if the story itself is good.

Of course, it can be taken too far. While I have no trouble believing in a story where the guy has a 10 inch cock, it stretches credibility when he can get hard instantly, fuck for hours, recover in seconds, and fuck for several more hours, at the end of which he cums in gallons. Such a story would have to be well written, and obviously aimed at getting a laugh, or involve a fantastic element, such as magic.
 
I think mostly fictional because real life seldom comes together they way you want.....One date you may have the perfect meal.....another a beautiful night out. Still another your lover looks totally beautiful, but doesn't happen to be the person from the prior encounters. When you write fantasy all these things fall into place, and if something can't be there like a tall ship in the background it can be.....because the water isn't to shallow.

Extreme things like a school for sex or a cult of nymphos are possible but fantasy takes it to the next level. Like I said above and like a Art teacher said to me along time ago in reference to photographes verses paintings. The painter can always have things there that a photo would have to deny.

I like writings fantasy with alien locations and strange things and I think when it comes to erotica there is plenty of room for both depending on the writer/readers mood.
 
a school of sex? yay, I want to read it! just make sure the action and concepts are consistent within themselves. If in this school a student must make fifty men and women cum to pass her test, make that believable- like the Sleeping Beauty stories, which are so overblown they are silly- but very hot, too.
If you're having sex with tentacled monsters, make it good, and make sure you describe how those suckers feel on her body as that squirmy tip invades her cunt... wahoo! (or his, for that matter)
but, I agree- keep that eighteen inch cock away from my cervix, thanks! A really big cock mostly just hurts the owner and his partners too.
 
Best way to lie is to tell the truth

I was told this by a very successful politician I met back in High School I was shocked and fortunetly he retired before I had to vote because I'm sure he lied more times than we know.

But he knew what he was talking about and I think this is also the best way to write a story as well. Most of the stories and people I write about are based on real people put in different situations for example in one story "Diane"

http://english.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=208130

The scene where she had her first experience as a hooker in a brothel is based on a conversation I had with a stripper at a bachelor party who was telling me how she had been offered a job at a local brothel (They are Legal where I am) and was considering taking it having talked to some of the girls. I also knew a girl at high school who went into this profession.

"Corrupting His Older Sister"
http://english.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=208128

This really happened but she wasn't my sister I actually went to school with her she was a real flirt (its not her name either or her discription she wasn't quite as hot but not bad) and I held the clothes why my mate and this girl interacted like the siblings in this story also the guy she barred was a bloke who we didn't like and where hoping to interrupt if he did get lucky (this was when I still drank and was very drunk).


Sorry if this post sounds like a plug for my stories it wasn't meant to be
 
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It depends upon my mood. I generally like stories to be rooted in reality. However, I don't want to read about middle aged balding guys with back-hair and spongy erections huffing and puffing for two minutes on top of their fat apathetic wives. Those kinds of characters make for interesting literary fiction. In erotic fiction I tend to like more attractive sexually competent characters. This, to my mind, is no less real. It may not be the reality of a particular reader but it exists in the world. I'd be willing to bet my balls that as I write this somewhere in the world a well hung professional athlete is banging a stripper and/or model.
 
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I definately prefer "reality." Some elements of fantasy are OK. for example, I don't mind that stories almost always involve attractive people, but when it comes the characters' actions I prefer it when they act (more or less) like real people.
 
bisexplicit said:
Just out of curiousity...

In erotica stories, do you prefer to have the situation/characters be mostly planted in reality or largely fictional?
I prefer either an aura of realism or pure fantasy, and find realism easier to submerge into
 
my fantasy is quite different than most

I read the title and I was thinking along the lines of realism being normal bodies in plausible situations and fantasy being of the supermodel slut meets well endowed multizillionaire sort of stuff.

Had I just seen the title I'd have rendered fantasy as twenty somethings with the wisdom of middle age and a complete suspension of consequences. Its interesting that purple haired elfin maidens are what most others seem to have conjured.

Isn't *all* erotica fantasy? A slice of experience suspended in time and space, with no logistics behind the experience except that which contributes to the experience?

Interesting thread ...
 
I like the story to be fictional, though many stories are rooted in some form of true events. Having believable characters help stories for me.
 
Stella_Omega said:
a school of sex? yay, I want to read it! just make sure the action and concepts are consistent within themselves. If in this school a student must make fifty men and women cum to pass her test, make that believable- like the Sleeping Beauty stories, which are so overblown they are silly- but very hot, too.
If you're having sex with tentacled monsters, make it good, and make sure you describe how those suckers feel on her body as that squirmy tip invades her cunt... wahoo! (or his, for that matter)
but, I agree- keep that eighteen inch cock away from my cervix, thanks! A really big cock mostly just hurts the owner and his partners too.


yepper ~ ditto

dont get me wrong folks ... I love a nice hot ... HARD cock. just dont want it err jammed into my throat ... from my cervix ~

grins* nuff said eh~
 
Stella_Omega said:
I agree- keep that eighteen inch cock away from my cervix, thanks! A really big cock mostly just hurts the owner and his partners too.

Well 18" is just absurd but if we're talking about a fat dick in the 10ish inch range, I have to disagree where I'm concerned. I've been on the receiving end of a dick that big, and I liked it to the exclusion of all lesser dicks. But, that's just me.
 
Going back to the original question, I am now firmly convinced that I want fantasy.

There is a reason for this : I just sat for several days on a jury, listening to the evidence of a real incident where a 21 year old man was accused of raping his 15 year old sister while drunk after a wedding. Listening to the reality was shattering after years of reading (and writing) this kind of thing.
 
that's the reason i don't understand the appeal of the nonconsent category: do the readers not actually know anybody who's been raped? i find that extremely unlikely.

ed
 
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