Real Republican Party

[ByteMe13]

If mainstream Republicans want to save their party and the country from Trump, they need to run a 3rd party candidate, at least in states that matter (WI, MI, PA, AZ, NV, GA, NC, VA). Call it the Real Republican Party and run on typical Republican issues. Of course, they will lose but they could take enough votes away from Trump to ensure he doesn’t win.

 

[Escierto]

You love your Orange Jesus! A third party candidate will only benefit Trump and ensures that he becomes the last president. After he is elected he plans on installing a dictatorship. Like a true banana republic power will be handed down to his son.

 

[TrailerHitch]

You love your Orange Jesus! A third party candidate will only benefit Trump and ensures that he becomes the last president. After he is elected he plans on installing a dictatorship. Like a true banana republic power will be handed down to his son.

Dude back away from the crack pipe. What you have posted is the most insane nonsense I have ever read.

I'm no Trump fan and I hope the reps come up with a better candidate but to say any president can install a dictatorship is just plain fucking idiotic.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Both parties need a reboot, if not a complete flush and reset.

 

[LLCox]

The last third party candidate with any clout was Perot. He put Clinton in the White house.

 

[SubzeroGirl]

This is why we have write in votes. If you don’t care, don’t vote, like the majority of people.

 

[adrina]

What is the real republican party? I haven't seen any "real republicans" since prior to Nixon. Fiscal conservatism is just corporate giveaways - been that way since Nixon. Got worse with Reagan. Accelerated under Bush. Family values? Not really, just control mechanisms from hypocrites who still cheat on their spouses and have their affair partners get abortions etc.

The republican party devolved into corporatism and then further into "hate the libs".

When was the last "true republican"? Who was it? Ike?

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Yep. We the people are fucked.

Proper-fucked. It started when good people started to avoid service to country because it was inconvenient.


Most likely, Tom Dewey was the last real GOP candidate for the White House. Ike was okay, but he let Hoover and the CIA have hissy-fits over "commies" everywhere, and they killed too many people both here and abroad.

 

[YDB95]

The last third party candidate with any clout was Perot. He put Clinton in the White house.

No he didn't. Study after study has shown if Perot had stayed out after he quit in the summer of 1992, Clinton still would have won. At most he would have lost Montana, Georgia and New Hampshire, without which he still would have won.

 

[Bray123]

It has to be pre-Nixon, when the GOP was the party of anti-KKK, pro-integration, anti-sedition.

 

[dkovic77]

No he didn't. Study after study has shown if Perot had stayed out after he quit in the summer of 1992, Clinton still would have won. At most he would have lost Montana, Georgia and New Hampshire, without which he still would have won.

Going to the grocery store and seeing the price scanner was the elder Bush’s downfall.

The Cheeto didn’t know what a DQ blizzard was. But the great unwashed still rally around him because he exposes to hate all the same people they do.

Progress!

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

The last third party candidate with any clout was Perot. He put Clinton in the White house.

Many Democrats believe votes for Ralph Nader that otherwise would have gone to Gore gave GW Bush the slim margin he needed in 2000. And say Jill Stein cost wine tippling Hillary the presidency in 2016.

 

[dkovic77]

Many Democrats believe votes for Ralph Nader that otherwise would have gone to Gore gave GW Bush the slim margin he needed in 2000. And say Jill Stein cost wine tippling Hillary the presidency in 2016.

Those that say Stein cost Hillary just don’t realize how she wrote off the rust belt. That one is one her and her team.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Those that say Stein cost Hillary just don’t realize how she wrote off the rust belt. That one is one her and her team.

Yep. They thought they had Wisconsin in the bag. Lol.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Many Democrats believe votes for Ralph Nader that otherwise would have gone to Gore gave GW Bush the slim margin he needed in 2000. And say Jill Stein cost wine tippling Hillary the presidency in 2016.

A vote for Nader was a vote for Bush, and a vote for Bernie was a vote for Trump.

Jill Stein as I recall was basically a nothing burger.

 

[jomar]

You love your Orange Jesus! A third party candidate will only benefit Trump and ensures that he becomes the last president. After he is elected he plans on installing a dictatorship. Like a true banana republic power will be handed down to his son.

Dude back away from the crack pipe. What you have posted is the most insane nonsense I have ever read.

I'm no Trump fan and I hope the reps come up with a better candidate but to say any president can install a dictatorship is just plain fucking idiotic.

I know what he means though, trailerhitch. trump weakened departments by installing acting directors instead of permanent, putting in cabinet members who were hostile to their agency or had no experience in the arena, letting attrition run and not filling positions, and actively and publicly blurred the independent lines of executive branches. He admired and cozied up to strongman leaders. And if you listen to his campaign he’s proposing military intervention for domestic stuff he doesn’t like, and by economists accounts an absurd proposal to make all imports pay a tariff with 10% being talked about. With his efforts to steal the election one gets the impression he wants to be president for life and is fine with a police state as long as he’s in charge.

 

[TrailerHitch]

I know what he means though, trailerhitch. trump weakened departments by installing acting directors instead of permanent, putting in cabinet members who were hostile to their agency or had no experience in the arena, letting attrition run and not filling positions, and actively and publicly blurred the independent lines of executive branches. He admired and cozied up to strongman leaders. And if you listen to his campaign he’s proposing military intervention for domestic stuff he doesn’t like, and by economists accounts an absurd proposal to make all imports pay a tariff with 10% being talked about. With his efforts to steal the election one gets the impression he wants to be president for life and is fine with a police state as long as he’s in charge.

Blah, blah, blah...In order for a dictatorship to succeed the entire military would have to go along with it. That is highly unlikely.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

A vote for Nader was a vote for Bush, and a vote for Bernie was a vote for Trump.

Jill Stein as I recall was basically a nothing burger.

The margin in Wisconsin was very close and some political pundits think Jill Stein pulled enough votes from Hillary to put Trump over the top in that state. Idk if that’s right or not but I’ve heard plenty of Dems blame her.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Blah, blah, blah...In order for a dictatorship to succeed the entire military would have to go along with it. That is highly unlikely.

Why would the military have to "go along with it"? The only reason the Military might get involved is if there is a civilian uprising over it at the beginning, right?

Look what Hitler did, he tried over throwing it first, that failed so he moved on to politics. He won office, then took control, had Hindenburg transfer power to him, via the German Constitution, and Hitler became dictator. All nice an legal through the legal framework of the then German government.

Pretty sure with the backing of the Trump cultist in government, something similar could happen in the US.

 

[YDB95]

Going to the grocery store and seeing the price scanner was the elder Bush’s downfall.

I never bought that one either. It wasn't actually at a grocery store, it was at an IT fair with lots of new gadgets, and the price scanner he saw was one such new gadget. In addition to scanning prices, it could weigh products and read damaged UPC labels. (In other words, he had legitimate reason to be "amazed at some of the technology", as he said at the time.) Besides, Bush was of an age, class and gender where if you give it two minutes of thought, it's absolutely plausible that the man never set foot in a grocery store himself. Anyone who bought his Texan populist nonsense just desperately wanted to be fooled, and the scanner incident wouldn't change that.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Why would the military have to "go along with it"? The only reason the Military might get involved is if there is a civilian uprising over it at the beginning, right?

Look what Hitler did, he tried over throwing it first, that failed so he moved on to politics. He won office, then took control, had Hindenburg transfer power to him, via the German Constitution, and Hitler became dictator. All nice an legal through the legal framework of the then German government.

Pretty sure with the backing of the Trump cultist in government, something similar could happen in the US.

Your explanation is too simplistic. HIndenberg appointed Hitler Chancellor because the Nazis had a slim majority over all the parties in parliament. Hitler and the Nazis worked to manipulate the laws governing Germany to give him more power. When Hindenberg died Hitler declared himself Fuhrer. He was successful because he had the support of many business leaders, much of the general population, and senior military officers.

The military has a doctrine to oppose all enemies foreign and domestic. I'm relatively certain a president attempting to subvert government processes by declaring themselves dictator violates that.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Your explanation is too simplistic.

Not simplistic, simply condensed. Sorry Hitch I'm not writing an article here.

HIndenberg appointed Hitler Chancellor because the Nazis had a slim majority over all the parties in parliament. Hitler and the Nazis worked to manipulate the laws governing Germany to give him more power. When Hindenberg died Hitler declared himself Fuhrer. He was successful because he had the support of many business leaders, much of the general population, and senior military officers.

And you can't in your tiny little mind see the same happening in the US?

The military has a doctrine to oppose all enemies foreign and domestic. I'm relatively certain a president attempting to subvert government processes by declaring themselves dictator violates that.

Who's the C n C again?

I agree though it's a fair debate, to your point on the military having to be involved I disagree.

 

[TrailerHitch]

Not simplistic, simply condensed. Sorry Hitch I'm not writing an article here.

And you can't in your tiny little mind see the same happening in the US?

Who's the C n C again?

I agree though it's a fair debate, to your point on the military having to be involved I disagree.

No military officer has to obey an unlawful command, regardless of who it comes from.

So how does this dictator in your delusional world maintain power without the military. Because there will be dissenters who will work against him.

The paranoia from you lefties verges on mental illness.

 

[jomar]

Blah, blah, blah...In order for a dictatorship to succeed the entire military would have to go along with it. That is highly unlikely.

Don’t kid yourself. If trump wins again against all odds he’ll concoct a Reighstag moment in which to become president for life. Did you not pay attention the first go round?

ETA: That we elected a guy like trump probably indicates the US is in decline.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Don’t kid yourself. If trump wins again against all odds he’ll concoct a Reighstag moment in which to become president for life. Did you not pay attention the first go round?

ETA: That we elected a guy like trump probably indicates the US is in decline.

Those who fail to remember history, are bound to repeat it.