Real American?

[oggbashan]

This was a Real American:

Soldier, R.I.P.

I wrote my poem Salute last September when I was told my friend had been admitted to hospital in Kentucky and given the Last Rites. He died two weeks ago, and I have only just been told.

He was one of the survivors of D-Day on Omaha Beach, having already been on the landings in Sicily and at Anzio. He was one of the few battle-hardened US troops who survived Omaha but he lost all his friends in the sea off that beach even before he got ashore.

He ended WW2 in the European Theater with the Silver Star and the Purple Heart with two clusters. When he landed at Anzio he was with three buddies. When they broke out from Anzio, there were only four legs between the four men, and he had two of the legs but was carrying shrapnel in both. He was still limping when he landed at Omaha.

Some years ago he came to the UK and visited Normandy. I was pleased that I was able to say 'Thank you' in person to him.

[I've copied this post from where I posted it earlier in March on the Authors' Hangout because there are still Real Americans like my friend.]

 

[barefootgirl69]

*curtsey*

Thank you, Sir, for posting this again...for sharing with us.

 

[Real_American11]

...

You are a disgrace to everything he fought for!

 

[Hypoxia]

What is a Real American?

(I'm improvising here.)

A Real American treats others with courtesy and respect, even in disagreement, but does not back down on their principles when challenged.
A Real American understands that domination is unwise, that compromise is necessary to balance competing interests.
A Real American puts the interests of humanity, and their nation, and their community, ahead of their own.
A Real American fiercely resists attempts to tear down civilization and return to savagery and barbarism. (Cf. John Campbell's model.)
A Real American knows that some things are worth dying for.

EDIT: Alas, I can't find links to the Campbell paradigm. The iconic editor of Golden Age SciFi's rough model of social evolution is IIRC: Human society started with barbarism, with bands preying on other bands. The next level was peasantry, forming agricultural communities and necessarily defending themselves from barbarian raids, directed by a lord. The final level, beyond barbarian and peasant, is citizen. Citizens are equal to each other, responsible to and for each other, able to function in both peace and war. Scattered barbarians can never overwhelm an engaged citizenry.

Our civil society is attacked by bagheads and racists and other Barbarians at the Gates. They will not prevail.

 

[oggbashan]

{QUOTE=Real_American11;76293288} No. Not worth quoting.

 

[barefootgirl69]

You are a disgrace to everything he fought for!

You're rude! Please don't call yourself AMERICAN...you are embarrassing the rest of us...MOST of us. REAL Americans!

 

[oggbashan]

You're rude! Please don't call yourself AMERICAN...you are embarrassing the rest of us...MOST of us. REAL Americans!

Please, just add him to your ignore list. It isn't worth getting annoyed about.

 

[Ubiquitious_too]

You are a disgrace to everything he fought for!

Would you care to clarify your post?
Explain yourself?

 

[LIVINRFANTASIES]

From an American

You're rude, Real_American11! Please don't call yourself AMERICAN...you are embarrassing the rest of us...MOST of us. REAL Americans!

Originally Posted by Real_American11 View Post
You are a disgrace to everything he fought for!

In the short time we've been members we try to be positive and see the good in every member. You sir, Real_American11 are not a true American or have any good to mention.

I read the post by oggbashan before and again. He does not live in America but is far more an American than you will ever be.

 

[Hypoxia]

Would you care to clarify your post?
Explain yourself?

RA does not clarify but merely attacks. There's a certain model: A Fascist kills because he cannot argue. Be glad RA cannot beam death rays at us here.

 

[Hard_Rom]

RA is a mentally disturbed ignorant troll who posts such things as mentally challenged should be used for medical experiments. Just the sort of thing AH did. The fuck should be taken out and beaten within an inch of his life and pissed on for dishonouring honourable war dead.

In my country he would be getting a knock at his door by guys in red serge who always get their man.

Iggy the fuck and sooner or later he will be banned. And then sneak back in like the spineless cunt it is as an alt.

You quote him or enter into any discussion with it and you just encourage it Iggy it and soon it will be talking all to it's self.

It's a fucking troll!

 

[Real_American11]

You're rude!

And you're the enemy of liberty.

I read the post by oggbashan before and again.

And you still hate America.

In my country he would be getting a knock at his door by guys in red serge who always get their man.

Well this fascist mentality is no surprise coming from a pathetic SJW...

 

[LIVINRFANTASIES]

My Fellow Americans

And you're the enemy of liberty.

And you still hate America.

/QUOTE]How the fuck do you know if any of us hate America. I only hate idiots like you who are only here to degrade everyone else.

All, MOST, some, a few, of us are here to have some sexual fun and share our thoughts. Not to read bullshit from a retard with a second grad ejakation

 

[lovecraft68]

And you're the enemy of liberty.

And you still hate America.

Well this fascist mentality is no surprise coming from a pathetic SJW...

And you post under age and rape suggestions in story ideas and keep getting banned.

 

[Real_American11]

How the fuck do you know if any of us hate America.

Because you have made it clear in your postings.

And you post under age and rape suggestions in story ideas and keep getting banned.

Yes I'm sure to take criticisms of my fetishes from a pervert on a porn site very seriously, really I will.

 

[lovecraft68]

Because you have made it clear in your postings.

Yes I'm sure to take criticisms of my fetishes from a pervert on a porn site very seriously, really I will.

It's not about the fetish-although yours is the kink of a coward-its about the site rules which you continue to ignore.

 

[phrodeau]

We should be honored that such an illustrious personage deigns to post on our humble board. Especially at this moment in time, when he is so busy with his presidential campaign duties.

 

[Real_American11]

It's not about the fetish-although yours is the kink of a coward

How is it cowardly?

its about the site rules which you continue to ignore.

How am I continuing?

 

[quietlylooking]

We should be honored that such an illustrious personage deigns to post on our humble board. Especially at this moment in time, when he is so busy with his presidential campaign duties.

Indeed.

 

[Aglaopheme]

Ogg, that was beautiful. Thanks for sharing. It's just as eloquent and touching as it was the last time you mentioned him.

 

[oggbashan]

He's not American but he stands for so many who fought in WW2. The last veteran of his battle group walks alone.

http://rebrn.com/re/last-veteran-of-his-wwii-battle-group-marching-alone-in-memorial-2563716/

http://i.imgur.com/MyxObav.jpg

 

[phrodeau]

Bump for the US Memorial Day.

 

[lovecraft68]

Bump for the US Memorial Day.

Because you're a shit stirring asshat whose about as much of a true American as you claim the OP is?

Go back to whining about everything the people of this country should be sorry for when the reality is people like you are why this country has become sorry.

You're the person the Vets would be sorry to know they fought for.

 

[phrodeau]

They don't seem to mind taking my money. That's actual money, not "pledged".

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/05/23/veterans-protest-donald-trump-over-charity-pledge/

http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-OD501_NYVET0_J_20160523134421.jpg

 

[Comshaw]

Memorial day. A day to remember what it cost and who paid. I was a very minor part of one of those conflicts and lost friends and family to it. For those men and women who have paid for our freedom, I'd like to share my thanks.