raped love story

[mellisa45]

i have been thinking of a story where at a new years party a girl gets drunk and leaves, only to be followed by a guy who proceeds to rape her, she loses the plot completely . so her parents plan revenge. He is a surgeon and his wife a nurse . they kiddnap him and operate on him changing him into a girl. ironicly. the girl who looks after him/her falls in love with her.

 

[bisexplicit]

I can't say this would be a story I'm interested in, however there are probably some out there would enjoy it.

I think you'll have an interesting time deciding what category to put it in.

Also, make sure to use the editor program.

 

[sirhugs]

Lit will not post rape stories, but will post "nonconsent". and no, I'm not clear how they differ.

 

[bisexplicit]

Lit will not post rape stories, but will post "nonconsent". and no, I'm not clear how they differ.

As far as I know - "nonconsent" involves an eventual liking of the act.

 

[3113]

I believe the idea in "nonconsent" is that *WHILE* the event is happening the person gets an erotic thrill from it and it becomes consentual even if it started off as "nonconsent." Likewise, there is the implication that the person forcing themselves on the other person *knows* or suspects that there is desire there....

A rape is nonconsent and non-enjoyable and the rapist knows that the person they're raping doesn't want it and never would want it.

This does not mean that this is made abundantly clear in all the stories here on Lit. In some the line between the two is very blurred indeed.

You can have a rape in a story if it's not the erotic part of the story but rather character development or background. Say, a woman recovering from a rape, learning to love and trust again.

Frankly, I've always had some real trouble with the idea of any person eventually coming to "love" the person who raped them. That *VERY* damaging myth died, one hopes, sometime in the 70's.

I have met rape victims. They do not, nor will they ever love their rapists. Their lives are shattered, horribly and forever. And even in erotic fiction I don't think it's a good idea to pretend that such an act can lead to love.

 

[bisexplicit]

Frankly, I've always had some real trouble with the idea of any person eventually coming to "love" the person who raped them. That *VERY* damaging myth died, one hopes, sometime in the 70's.

Unfortunately, thats not the case. Some who are victimized end up "loving" those who hurt them, and then continue to be victimized.

This is typical for date rape and marriage rape.

 

[future_hubby]

well i guess you could enrich your story with more details about the rapist's wife.The girls who had this horrible experience falls in love with her rapist and they both try to have "non-consent" sex with the nurse.This is my suggestion for your story and we can work it together if you want.I like it so far

 

[Sean Renaud]

Its also a common trait in spousal abuse. Up to a point many women (and presumably men) form positive memories of people who have abused them. Its not restricted to rapist however. It is also "common" amongst POWs, kidnappees and other people who are routinely tortured. Its kinda scary.

 

[sirhugs]

Unfortunately, thats not the case. Some who are victimized end up "loving" those who hurt them, and then continue to be victimized.

This is typical for date rape and marriage rape.

and even more complex in incest rape

 

[Sean Renaud]

Personally I would say write it. But be prepared for the hatemail because it will pour in. I've gotten rather used it, hell it means people are reading my work. And I would assume it means they are being affected by it. But if you write a rape love story you will get pounded.

 

[BedtimeStories77]

At any rate, I don't see "rape" as a "love story".

 

[Jimmy Buzzard]

At any rate, I don't see "rape" as a "love story".

Same here. I'm a little surprised that a woman would be interested in that kind of story at all.

Talk about mixed messages...

 

[alias x]

Stalking Chelsea is somewhere in the vicinity of your idea. A guy is stalking a porn star, the porn star turns him into a girl, much mayhem ensues. Give it a read. Not (IMO) the best of Wholemanz's writing but good stuff nonetheless. Hm. I have a habit of bringing that author up every time someone mentions TG. Ah well.

 

[3113]

Same here. I'm a little surprised that a woman would be interested in that kind of story at all.

There are writer and readers (women primarily) who get off on what I call "crucified" women stories. That is, women as Christ-like figures who suffer horribily and yet remain sweet and forgiving--even loving toward their abusers. They, ultimately, reform the abuser through their ability to love, forgive, etc.

They suffer and suffer and suffer and suffer. And women writers/readers get to cry and sniffle over all the patient, selfless suffering they endure.

This was a very popular archtype in the Victorian era; the mythic story of the wife of the alcoholic, for example, continuing to love and remain beside her husband although he is abusive, etc. Till finally he accidently kills her in a drunken rage and reforms because he is remorseful for killing her and feels her forgiving spirit watching over him.

Yadda, yadda, yadda.

I could be wrong, but it sounds like this is where this story is more or less heading, with the raped woman as martyr.

In my experience as reader and writer, martyred women are usually boring characters and, yes, it does a real disservice to women to maintain that kind of message, that one can change the world not through action (and that includes peaceful protest), but by passive acceptance and love. We now call such women "co-dependent" and sometimes "doormats."

Frankly, I still can't see how a girl raped by a guy she doesn't know (?) after a New Year's party is going to fall in love with him (this is not Stockholm's syndrome where she's kidnapped by the guy and in his power for a while. From the idea discription, this is sounds like a one-time thing)--or why she'd be the one to look after him once he'd been transformed...or why his wife is a nurse....

This story idea makes no sense to me at all.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Non conscent/reluctance assumes there is an ulterior motivation for sex other than love, of lust on the part of the "victim". It also assumes the victim will end up enjoying the sex.

From my understanding, the difference is in the idea expressed in the description Fantasies of control. In the case of lit, the fantasy aspect is embodied in the victim's fantasy, i.e. they will post rape fantasy but not rapist fantasy.

I don't think the distinction is set in stone, it is really a judgement call on the part of the Lit editors and ultimately, probably Laurel or manu has the final say on anything that is up against the line.

As to this story idea, it probably will do very well if the idea is carried through well by the author.

 

[FurryFury]

I can see rape as a love story, if it is a fantasy.

In real life when you love the one who raped you and marry him it doesn't turn out well, been there, done that and I'm glad it's over.

Society in general sets us up for rape.

If we are female it also sets us up to remain sweet and forgiving.

Rape is a huge fantasy for many. The key word there is fantasy. In fantasy it's all okay, whatever turns you on.

Fury

 

[Jimmy Buzzard]

Well, I figure if you got a story inside you crying to get out, write it.

 

[FurryFury]

If you're talking to me, yeah, I have a lot of stories.

Fury