Rant: 2 things that are bugging me.

Wildcard Ky

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Rant #1:

I have a serious ear infection going on, so I went to the doctor today. My regular doctor is on vacation, so he had another doctor filling in for him this week.

I go to the fill in doc. She agrees that my ears are in pretty bad shape and starts to write some prescriptions. Half way through writing them, she suddenly stops and says "You do have insurance for prescriptions, dont you?" I answer yes, and she continues writing saying that a person having or not having insurance has an impact on what prescriptions she writes.

Due to not feeling well, I was already in a bad mood, so I didn't press with questions. But the more I think about it, the more it pisses me off. Is she saying that people with no insurance get "cheaper" drugs? Is she saying that people with insurance get hammered for more expensive drugs that aren't any better than what she would write for someone with no insurance?

Rant #2:

This one really pisses me off. All of these things are FACTUAL. There is no speculation on my part. I know them all to be true.

I know a woman that is divorced with 4 kids. She gets almost $1,000 per month in child support, plus 1/2 of her husbands military retirement. She drives a brand new car, and lives in a house worth at least $175,000, if not more.

She was diagnosed with breast cancer several months ago. It was caught very early, and a lumpectomy and treatments have taken care of the problem.

Here's the kicker. The money that she gets from the ex is NOT reportable income. She's a part time teacher, that's her only reportable income. So according to the rules, she's in poverty.

Being in poverty, she gets a medical card. The medical card took care of all of the cancer stuff. I have no problem with that. Here's where my problem starts.

Her doctor has worked out a deal for her to get a boob job on that same medical card. All she had was a lumpectomy, not a mastectomy. She is a thin, small breasted woman, and has always been unhappy with the size of her breasts.

So now thanks to some creative paperwork, she's getting a brand new set of bigger and better boobies at our expense. That's right..... Uncle Sam is paying for it all. Never mind the new car, nice house, and umpteen thousands of dollars per year she doesn't have to claim. She's in poverty, and we taxpayers are going to foot the bill for her boob job.

Is this a great country or what?

Rant over........ Carry on. We now return you to your originally scheduled programming.
 
Some people sure know how to work the system. Personally, I have no interest in doing so. It sickens me to see them do it and it would sicken me to do so myself. *shrug* It's gotta come back to haunt them somewhere along the line. I have to believe in Karma or I'd want to kick some peoples asses. I don't have the energy for that.
 
Wildcard Ky said:
Rant #1:
Due to not feeling well, I was already in a bad mood, so I didn't press with questions. But the more I think about it, the more it pisses me off. Is she saying that people with no insurance get "cheaper" drugs? Is she saying that people with insurance get hammered for more expensive drugs that aren't any better than what she would write for someone with no insurance?
If the insurance company pays for it, why it's free isn't it? So what if it tuns up the cost for everyone.

Wildcard Ky said:
Rant #2:

This one really pisses me off. All of these things are FACTUAL. There is no speculation on my part. I know them all to be true.

I know a woman that is divorced with 4 kids. She gets almost $1,000 per month in child support, plus 1/2 of her husbands military retirement. She drives a brand new car, and lives in a house worth at least $175,000, if not more.

She was diagnosed with breast cancer several months ago. It was caught very early, and a lumpectomy and treatments have taken care of the problem.

Here's the kicker. The money that she gets from the ex is NOT reportable income. She's a part time teacher, that's her only reportable income. So according to the rules, she's in poverty.

Being in poverty, she gets a medical card. The medical card took care of all of the cancer stuff. I have no problem with that. Here's where my problem starts.

Her doctor has worked out a deal for her to get a boob job on that same medical card. All she had was a lumpectomy, not a mastectomy. She is a thin, small breasted woman, and has always been unhappy with the size of her breasts.

So now thanks to some creative paperwork, she's getting a brand new set of bigger and better boobies at our expense. That's right..... Uncle Sam is paying for it all. Never mind the new car, nice house, and umpteen thousands of dollars per year she doesn't have to claim. She's in poverty, and we taxpayers are going to foot the bill for her boob job.

Is this a great country or what?

Rant over........ Carry on. We now return you to your originally scheduled programming.

I strongly suspect that the lady had a boob problem that she fixed with her pussy.
 
Wildcard Ky said:
This one really pisses me off. All of these things are FACTUAL. There is no speculation on my part. I know them all to be true.

I know a woman that is divorced with 4 kids. She gets almost $1,000 per month in child support, plus 1/2 of her husbands military retirement. She drives a brand new car, and lives in a house worth at least $175,000, if not more.

Here's the kicker. The money that she gets from the ex is NOT reportable income. She's a part time teacher, that's her only reportable income. So according to the rules, she's in poverty.

Being in poverty, she gets a medical card. The medical card took care of all of the cancer stuff. I have no problem with that. Here's where my problem starts.

Her doctor has worked out a deal for her to get a boob job on that same medical card. All she had was a lumpectomy, not a mastectomy. She is a thin, small breasted woman, and has always been unhappy with the size of her breasts.

So now thanks to some creative paperwork, she's getting a brand new set of bigger and better boobies at our expense. That's right..... Uncle Sam is paying for it all. Never mind the new car, nice house, and umpteen thousands of dollars per year she doesn't have to claim. She's in poverty, and we taxpayers are going to foot the bill for her boob job.

Is this a great country or what?

Rant over........ Carry on. We now return you to your originally scheduled programming.

The reason she doesn't have to report her child support, etc., is that her ex pays taxes on it already when he does his income taxes.

If she was required to report it as well, it would be taxed twice, which is hardly fair.

You have no idea how many times I've heard people bitch about that.

*sigh*
 
Wildcard Ky said:
Rant #1:

I have a serious ear infection going on, so I went to the doctor today. My regular doctor is on vacation, so he had another doctor filling in for him this week.

I go to the fill in doc. She agrees that my ears are in pretty bad shape and starts to write some prescriptions. Half way through writing them, she suddenly stops and says "You do have insurance for prescriptions, dont you?" I answer yes, and she continues writing saying that a person having or not having insurance has an impact on what prescriptions she writes.

Due to not feeling well, I was already in a bad mood, so I didn't press with questions. But the more I think about it, the more it pisses me off. Is she saying that people with no insurance get "cheaper" drugs? Is she saying that people with insurance get hammered for more expensive drugs that aren't any better than what she would write for someone with no insurance?

Rant #2:

This one really pisses me off. All of these things are FACTUAL. There is no speculation on my part. I know them all to be true.

I know a woman that is divorced with 4 kids. She gets almost $1,000 per month in child support, plus 1/2 of her husbands military retirement. She drives a brand new car, and lives in a house worth at least $175,000, if not more.

She was diagnosed with breast cancer several months ago. It was caught very early, and a lumpectomy and treatments have taken care of the problem.

Here's the kicker. The money that she gets from the ex is NOT reportable income. She's a part time teacher, that's her only reportable income. So according to the rules, she's in poverty.

Being in poverty, she gets a medical card. The medical card took care of all of the cancer stuff. I have no problem with that. Here's where my problem starts.

Her doctor has worked out a deal for her to get a boob job on that same medical card. All she had was a lumpectomy, not a mastectomy. She is a thin, small breasted woman, and has always been unhappy with the size of her breasts.

So now thanks to some creative paperwork, she's getting a brand new set of bigger and better boobies at our expense. That's right..... Uncle Sam is paying for it all. Never mind the new car, nice house, and umpteen thousands of dollars per year she doesn't have to claim. She's in poverty, and we taxpayers are going to foot the bill for her boob job.

Is this a great country or what?

Rant over........ Carry on. We now return you to your originally scheduled programming.

Wildcard,

You know I work in a hospital, hell you even know what department I work in.

Some of the things I see would make you tear your hair out.

We deal quite often with patients with Sickle Cell Anemia. Whenever we hear that another one is coming up to our floor we all grown. We know what we are going to have to deal with. Of the almost 100 Sickle Cell Patients i have dealt with in the past year only two have not thought this was a vacation and treated it as such.

I deal with many homeless, many with terrible diseases. Diseases that in some cases could be treated if they would follow their doctors directions. And yet they do not do so.

Recently we had a young lady in. She was placed in isolation immediatly upon reaching the floor. She has Diagnosed T.B., she has Syph. She now has full blown AIDS. She doesn't care, she peddles her ass.

When she arrived on the floor she immediatly bega demanding everything under the sun. She wanted pain killers, she wanted extra food trays delivered. She wanted smokes and she wanted booze. She was quite upset when she found out many of these things weren't coming her way. Hell she wanted to keep turning tricks in her room. She also demanded that she be treated like a queen.

If her bed wasn't made when she wanted it made she would quite literaly shit in it so it had to be made.

When she had a hamburger delivered instead of the steak she had ordered she called the State.

She expected, as do many of my patients, that she would be treated as if she was in a spa instead of a hospital.

I have had patients demand that I give them massages, I have been ordered by family members to give pedicures.

Most of these patients have no insurance. They know the hospital has to foot the bill, just as they know that if they compain to the state about their treatment the state will investigate.

Our Hospital is dealing with a lawsuit right now. (One of several.) This patient came in with Testicular Cancer. He was, in a manner of speaking, de-nutted. He survived the treatments and is now pursuing a lawsuit against the hospital. Why? Because the Doctors on his case didn't find a way to magicly make his pecker bigger. (As he put it they took his balls so they should have made his prick larger.) Oh and he didn't have insurance either.

Then I deal with the cases that make me want to cry. The people who are just happy to be alive. The people who are going to die soon and know it, yet face it with a quiet courage.

I can never decide if I should shake my head or just sit down and cry.

Cat
 
cloudy said:
The reason she doesn't have to report her child support, etc., is that her ex pays taxes on it already when he does his income taxes.

If she was required to report it as well, it would be taxed twice, which is hardly fair.

You have no idea how many times I've heard people bitch about that.

*sigh*

Depends. I know in Iowa you can have child support (and I suspect Alimony or any equivalent) taken out BEFORE taxes. That's to help out the poor folks that have to pay it so they're not taxed on X amount that they never really see. I suspect that arrangements may also be able to be made by a judge on how exactly it works, but either way, there's a lot of ways to work the system on paying for kids and ex-wives/ex-husbands.
 
cloudy said:
The reason she doesn't have to report her child support, etc., is that her ex pays taxes on it already when he does his income taxes.

If she was required to report it as well, it would be taxed twice, which is hardly fair.

You have no idea how many times I've heard people bitch about that.

*sigh*

You don't have to explain it to me. I know exactly how it works. I was on the paying end of it for a long time. I paid the money and the taxes on it, she got the money as non reportable income. Then at the end of the year, she got to claim the kids on her taxes and get the tax credit. Yeah, that's a really fair set up. :rolleyes:
 
SeaCat said:
Wildcard,

You know I work in a hospital, hell you even know what department I work in.

Some of the things I see would make you tear your hair out.

We deal quite often with patients with Sickle Cell Anemia. Whenever we hear that another one is coming up to our floor we all grown. We know what we are going to have to deal with. Of the almost 100 Sickle Cell Patients i have dealt with in the past year only two have not thought this was a vacation and treated it as such.

I deal with many homeless, many with terrible diseases. Diseases that in some cases could be treated if they would follow their doctors directions. And yet they do not do so.

Recently we had a young lady in. She was placed in isolation immediatly upon reaching the floor. She has Diagnosed T.B., she has Syph. She now has full blown AIDS. She doesn't care, she peddles her ass.

When she arrived on the floor she immediatly bega demanding everything under the sun. She wanted pain killers, she wanted extra food trays delivered. She wanted smokes and she wanted booze. She was quite upset when she found out many of these things weren't coming her way. Hell she wanted to keep turning tricks in her room. She also demanded that she be treated like a queen.

If her bed wasn't made when she wanted it made she would quite literaly shit in it so it had to be made.

When she had a hamburger delivered instead of the steak she had ordered she called the State.

She expected, as do many of my patients, that she would be treated as if she was in a spa instead of a hospital.

I have had patients demand that I give them massages, I have been ordered by family members to give pedicures.

Most of these patients have no insurance. They know the hospital has to foot the bill, just as they know that if they compain to the state about their treatment the state will investigate.

Our Hospital is dealing with a lawsuit right now. (One of several.) This patient came in with Testicular Cancer. He was, in a manner of speaking, de-nutted. He survived the treatments and is now pursuing a lawsuit against the hospital. Why? Because the Doctors on his case didn't find a way to magicly make his pecker bigger. (As he put it they took his balls so they should have made his prick larger.) Oh and he didn't have insurance either.

Then I deal with the cases that make me want to cry. The people who are just happy to be alive. The people who are going to die soon and know it, yet face it with a quiet courage.

I can never decide if I should shake my head or just sit down and cry.

Cat

I couldn't do your job if I had to. Similarly, there's no way I could be so brazenly stupid when in a hospital, either. I admire you folks in the health care system. :heart:
 
I could use not only a medical card, but some food stamps at this point. And this bitch goes and gets a boob job.

:mad:
 
Wildcard Ky said:
You don't have to explain it to me. I know exactly how it works. I was on the paying end of it for a long time. I paid the money and the taxes on it, she got the money as non reportable income. Then at the end of the year, she got to claim the kids on her taxes and get the tax credit. Yeah, that's a really fair set up. :rolleyes:

Most women's standard of living goes down after divorce regardless of how much child support she receives, while her ex's standard of living goes up.

Do you really think that the paltry amount of child support that women get actually covers what it costs to raise a child????

You should know better.
 
Trinique_Fire said:
I could use not only a medical card, but some food stamps at this point. And this bitch goes and gets a boob job.

:mad:

To add insult to injury: If you're paying taxes, you're helping foot the bill for her boob job.
 
cloudy said:
Most women's standard of living goes down after divorce regardless of how much child support she receives, while her ex's standard of living goes up.

Do you really think that the paltry amount of child support that women get actually covers what it costs to raise a child????

You should know better.

I've seen it as high as 25% of the gross amount of the pay check. For me right now that's 250 bucks a check, give or take a few bucks (and no, I'm not paying child support) but if I was at that rate, I'd have to move back to Iowa and I'd be reduced to eating Mac and Cheese for a very long time to pay for all the debt and child support plus alimony.

But yes, the point is still valid....the system isn't necessarily fair on any count. However, after watching friends go through it, paying 500+ bucks a month to see my kid on supervised visits every other weekend wouldn't be real fair, either.
 
Wildcard Ky said:
To add insult to injury: If you're paying taxes, you're helping foot the bill for her boob job.

I suppose if I get money back on a tax return it means I've paid. Give me this woman's address. I'm going to go rip the fake titties right off her nasty chest.

:mad:
 
Wildcard Ky said:
To add insult to injury: If you're paying taxes, you're helping foot the bill for her boob job.

I wish that meant we could at least vote on how big they get to be. Skinny little bitch would get beach balls installed.....but then, her back would get messed up and we'd have to pay for that too. That's probably going to result from this anyway.

Grrrr.
 
cloudy said:
Most women's standard of living goes down after divorce regardless of how much child support she receives, while her ex's standard of living goes up.

Do you really think that the paltry amount of child support that women get actually covers what it costs to raise a child????

You should know better.

In the case at hand, 1,000 per month along with 1/2 military retirement means she's getting at least $25k per year (clear and tax free) from him. Brand new car, house worth $175-200k. How paltry is that? How well could you do with $25k CASH free and clear? If I offer you $25k are you going to call it paltry and throw it back at me in disgust?

Then just for the hell of it, I'll set you up with a free medical card and get you some new boobies because you're poor.

The average American worker probably doesn't clear $25k per year. She does that without lifting a finger. Plus she works on top of that. Forgive me for not feeling sorry for her and thinking that she somehow deserves for the taxpayers to pick up the tab on her boob job.
 
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Wildcard Ky said:
In the case at hand, 1,000 per month along with 1/2 military retirement means she's getting at least $25k per year (clear and tax free) from him. Brand new car, house worth $175-200k. How paltry is that? How well could you do with $25k CASH free and clear? If I offer you $25k are you going to call it paltry and throw it back at me in disgust?

Then just for the hell of it, I'll set you up with a free medical card and get you some new boobies because you're poor..................

Just to play devil's advocate, how, exactly, do you know such intimate details about her finances?

Or, is this just conjecture?

(I've lived on $25k a year with kids....you don't live high on the hog, I promise)
 
cloudy said:
Just to play devil's advocate, how, exactly, do you know such intimate details about her finances?

Or, is this just conjecture?

(I've lived on $25k a year with kids....you don't live high on the hog, I promise)

Trust me when I say that my numbers are accurate. I don't want to divulge too much past that in an open forum. If you want to know more, PM me and I'll give you the details.

She's living high enough on the hog for the brand new car and the very nice house.

I really do find it odd that you seem to have no problems with this woman getting a free boob job for pure vanity purposes on the taxpayers dime.
 
Wildcard Ky said:
Trust me when I say that my numbers are accurate. I don't want to divulge too much past that in an open forum. If you want to know more, PM me and I'll give you the details.

She's living high enough on the hog for the brand new car and the very nice house.

I really do find it odd that you seem to have no problems with this woman getting a free boob job for pure vanity purposes on the taxpayers dime.

I don't know that she has, that's why.

I know there's an awful lot of conjecture where women like that are concerned, and people rarely know the full truth.

If she has, and I still find it difficult to believe that she has, then yes, it's wrong.
 
Hmmm.... How big are the boobs we're talking? I do believe in getting my money's worth. :devil:

Seriously, I wouldn't hold it against your doctor - at least she is cognizant of what the cost impact of her recommended treatment is. She's looking out for her patient's best interest, anyway. If a cheap anti-biotic has a good chance of solving it, and a really expensive anti-biotic has only a slightly better chance, it's not just cost-effectiveness, it's also good medicine. Bacteria develop resistances to anti-biotics, and the effectiveness against ear infections in any case is, sadly, not assured. Sometimes, it's like a cold - you treat it, and it lasts two weeks; you don't, and it lasts a fortnight. ;)

My sister has a family-practice, and I hear the same frustrations from the other side. :rolleyes: She tries to keep up with various herbal remedies and that sort of thing too, since patients ask about them often. It's a strange way to run a health-care system in this country. I can't begrudge anyone taking advantage of the loopholes. If RR could get government-funded pussy, he'd be spouting off about how it was all legal and he'd be a fool not to take advantage of the idiots in charge, and how it was actually patriotic to do so.
 
Huckleman2000 said:
If RR could get government-funded pussy, he'd be spouting off about how it was all legal and he'd be a fool not to take advantage of the idiots in charge, and how it was actually patriotic to do so.

Huckleman, I have worked in the past for the military. I HAD to use government supplied equipment. It was legal, but it wasn't efficient. The cheap shit they gave us was barely workable and would have cost lives except that I had enough leverage to get replacement stuff when it was really necessary. I don't need your down the nose opinion on my probable reactions to situations and I definitely don't need your opinion on my patriotism.

Because of the idiots in charge, I and my men have had to drink water that would keep us alive only because it would not kill us right away. Because of the idiots in charge, I have had to steal enough rounds to properly arm myself and my men for missions. If I could get government funded pussy and if it was legal, I wouldn't use it and I wouldn't let my men use it. Government funded pussy might work for someone like you, but not for me. As long as there are banks and as long as my men and I have M-16A4s, we will get enough money to buy the kind of pussy that America's fighting men deserve!

Huckleman, screw youself. Nasty letter to follow.
 
The difference between top quality, branded medicine and cheap, generic American rip offs is the price. If the stuff will pass FDA muster, it is of the same quality as the original. HOWEVER, if it were not for the development efforts of the major drug companies, we would only be using the drugs available a century ago. The major drug companies need to charge what they charge to cover development costs, not only for the drugs that make it to market, but for those that don't.

That said, I know a Canadian woman who come into the US to buy medicine where there is free medicine available throught the Canadian health system. Both medicines are major brand drugs and fully FDA approved. For whatever reason, the Canadian brand gives her MAJOR side effects. The US brand doesn't. It is not a matter of quality, or even of active ingredients [the same,] but of the delivery system [conclusion.]

[There is stuff available up in the 'Net. Some of it is foreign manufactor and some of it is not even what it is supposed to be and/or of the strength that it is supposed to be.]
 
Wildcard Ky said:
So now thanks to some creative paperwork, she's getting a brand new set of bigger and better boobies at our expense.


Karma... the wheel will turn... who knows what consequences it will have? No sense losing sleep over it, sweetie... :kiss:
 
Wildcard Ky said:
Trust me when I say that my numbers are accurate. I don't want to divulge too much past that in an open forum. If you want to know more, PM me and I'll give you the details.

She's living high enough on the hog for the brand new car and the very nice house.

I really do find it odd that you seem to have no problems with this woman getting a free boob job for pure vanity purposes on the taxpayers dime.

I find it really odd that you get so incensed about this.
Here's a news flash: Life Ain't Fair.
Here's another one: Some things just aren't your business to be concerned about. Other people's personal finances and medical history are probably at the top of that list.

Frankly, it sounds very much like you have some sort of personal axe to grind about this woman, and you are looking for us to legitimize it for you.

As a taxpayer, my concerns over how the government spends money are a lot bigger than one skinny woman with breast cancer trying to raise four kids on $25K/year who manages to get a boob job.
 
Huckleman2000 said:
Here's another one: Some things just aren't your business to be concerned about. Other people's personal finances and medical history are probably at the top of that list.

Exactly what I was getting at, thank you.

In the south, people seem to think that it's just fine and dandy to poke their noses into other people's business with nauseating regularity.

And, of course, once they poke their nose where it doesn't belong, then they have to broadcast the info to anyone that will listen. And no one's more fun to talk about than a divorced woman - especially if the info is as titillating as money or sex (boob job)....doesn't matter if the info broadcast is true or not.

It's one of the traits of the area that I despise.
 
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