Rand Paul supports amnesty for illegals, gives away what's left of America

[renard_ruse]

Rand Paul has now joined the growing ranks of Harper-Cameron post-conservatives in the Republican Party and come out in favor of amnesty for illegal aliens, including the often repeated "path to citizenship." In addition, he stated that he also supports increasing legal entries from the current 2 million per year to "any level American business feels is necessary."

Anybody still care about the rotting carcass of the GOP? Dumborats still ain't gonna vote for your party and you just lost what's left of your "base."

Why support a party that doesn't stand for anything AND doesn't win anything? I'm supporting the Constitution Party myself.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Wow. Republicans stop being racist fuckwits and Renard leaves them. Coincidence?

 

[amy_li]

The fact is, that due to declining birth rates, the USA needs immigration to maintain economic growth. Don't believe me, check out speeches by Conservatives like Stuart Varney at Foxnews.

 

[Sean Renaud]

The fact is, that due to declining birth rates, the USA needs immigration to maintain economic growth. Don't believe me, check out speeches by Conservatives like Stuart Varney at Foxnews.

Utter bullshit.

 

[amy_li]

Utter bullshit.

So explain to me then, how the USA economy grows with a declining native population. I'm all ears.

 

[koalabear]

The fact is, that due to declining birth rates, the USA needs immigration to maintain economic growth. Don't believe me, check out speeches by Conservatives like Stuart Varney at Foxnews.

America pays people not to work.

 

[Sean Renaud]

So explain to me then, how the USA economy grows with a declining native population. I'm all ears.

Technology.

 

[amy_li]

America pays people not to work.

All counties do, it's a matter of % GDP spent on welfare that matters.

 

[amy_li]

Technology.

Technology doesn't create demand. It improves efficiency. Try to think in terms of financial base.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

So explain to me then, how the USA economy grows with a declining native population. I'm all ears.

Cloning.

There's still a few kinks to be worked out of the process, though.

 

[koalabear]

All counties do, it's a matter of % GDP spent on welfare that matters.

The GDP is debt.

 

[Joeybagadonuts]

I pick up a weird vibe off Rand Paul. I think this guy is some kinda deviated pervert or something.

 

[amy_li]

The GDP is debt.

Um, no. Thanks for playing.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Technology doesn't create demand. It improves efficiency. Try to think in terms of financial base.

Demand doesn't actually matter. The financial base as you term it is artificial at best. Lets break this down a bit though.

X amount of hours of labor are required to care for everybody. Technology allows people to get more done in fewer hours. As a result less people are needed. Just look around you at the things we've streamlined and or eliminated. The fact that we are using email and making the USPS obsolete doesn't mean we need MORE people. If anything it means we need fewer people.

 

[renard_ruse]

Wow. Republicans stop being racist fuckwits and Renard leaves them. Coincidence?

First off, dipshit, I was never a Republican. Second off, what on earth does immigration have to do with "racist" other than those who want to use it deliberately to make whites a minority and eventually have them being assimilated entirely out of existence? Is that not the real "racism" (can you actually answer that, I doubt it). Third off, you're the one who says its perfectly fine for Israel to deport its illegals, including black Africans, to ensure it remains ethnically Jewish. How do you square that with your open shores/borders policy regarding the US. Fourth off, do you not at all care about the fact WE ARE ALREADY OVERPOPULATED and can't take 3 million newcomers every single year forever? Does this not seem at all like a problem to you? Will the boat ever be full? A billion people, two billion people in the country? Will it then be time to set some limits or never?

Please answer each point with specific reasons.

 

[amy_li]

Demand doesn't actually matter. The financial base as you term it is artificial at best. Lets break this down a bit though.

X amount of hours of labor are required to care for everybody. Technology allows people to get more done in fewer hours. As a result less people are needed. Just look around you at the things we've streamlined and or eliminated. The fact that we are using email and making the USPS obsolete doesn't mean we need MORE people. If anything it means we need fewer people.

What matters is the ratio of working people to non working people in an economy. The USA needs to increase the pyramid base, or it's economy will fail.

 

[renard_ruse]

The fact is, that due to declining birth rates, the USA needs immigration to maintain economic growth. Don't believe me, check out speeches by Conservatives like Stuart Varney at Foxnews.

The Nixon administration, in the early 70s, commisioned a bi-partisan study which concluded that no further net economic benefit would occur to the country with further population growth. The population at that time was less than half what it is today.

 

[mercury14]

Rand Paul has now joined the growing ranks of Harper-Cameron post-conservatives in the Republican Party and come out in favor of amnesty for illegal aliens, including the often repeated "path to citizenship." In addition, he stated that he also supports increasing legal entries from the current 2 million per year to "any level American business feels is necessary."

Anybody still care about the rotting carcass of the GOP? Dumborats still ain't gonna vote for your party and you just lost what's left of your "base."

Why support a party that doesn't stand for anything AND doesn't win anything? I'm supporting the Constitution Party myself.

We've been telling you for years that the GOP is a rotting carcass.

But it's not so much because of Rand Paul.

 

[amy_li]

The Nixon administration, in the early 70s, commisioned a bi-partisan study which concluded that no further net economic benefit would occur to the country with further population growth. The population at that time was less than half what it is today.

Lololololololololollololol. I have been to three economic summits in the last two years, with speakers from CNBC, Bloomberg, Fox Business, and Barons. They would die laughing at that.

 

[Sean Renaud]

First off, dipshit, I was never a Republican. Second off, what on earth does immigration have to do with "racist" other than those who want to use it deliberately to make whites a minority and eventually have them being assimilated entirely out of existence? Is that not the real "racism" (can you actually answer that, I doubt it). Third off, you're the one who says its perfectly fine for Israel to deport its illegals, including black Africans, to ensure it remains ethnically Jewish. How do you square that with your open shores/borders policy regarding the US. Fourth off, do you not at all care about the fact WE ARE ALREADY OVERPOPULATED and can't take 3 million newcomers every single year forever? Does this not seem at all like a problem to you? Will the boat ever be full? A billion people, two billion people in the country? Will it then be time to set some limits or never?

Please answer each point with specific reasons.

LOL. You are a Republican. The fact that you try to pretend otherwise is funny but it doesn't change anything.

Whites are decades, if not centuries from being a minority and there is nothing wrong with being assimilated. That's what people are ultimately supposed to do.

I've said nothing about Isreal one way or the other. You are right that I wouldn't deny them the ability to deport illegals. Nor do I deny the US the right to deport it's illegals. It's a waste of time and energy but if you're not doing anything better go a head.

There is no proof we are overpopulated. The entire population of the Earth could be put in Texas with plenty of elbow room. So yes we can handle more people. I guess we might not be able to do so forever but forever is a long time

What matters is the ratio of working people to non working people in an economy. The USA needs to increase the pyramid base, or it's economy will fail.

No it doesn't. There is no reason to be concerned with the number of working people to non working people. As I explained above how much work you can get done is the only important thing. If have say a self check out machine and one person can watch 6 stations you don't need MORE workers. You just have to find a way to pay the other five.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Second off, what on earth does immigration have to do with "racist" other than those who want to use it deliberately to make whites a minority and eventually have them being assimilated entirely out of existence? Is that not the real "racism" (can you actually answer that, I doubt it).

I can. No, it isn't.

 

[MatthewVett]

Wow. Republicans stop being racist fuckwits and Renard leaves them. Coincidence?

It's the Dixiecrats' migration to the Republicans all over again! How come people leave parties because the party isn't racist enough, but they so rarely leave a party for being too racist?

 

[KingOrfeo]

It's the Dixiecrats' migration to the Republicans all over again! How come people leave parties because the party isn't racist enough, but they so rarely leave a party for being too racist?

I believe that's why almost all the blacks, and quite a few whites, left the GOP after 1964.

 

[unregistered]

 

[rosco rathbone]

Rand Paul is doing a very interesting tightrope walk.