Quick question about bondage (for the subs who like it)

[NCShin]

OK, I plan to try my hand at Japanese bondage for the first time this coming weekend.

It IS my first time doing it and plan to have a printed set of directions nearby to refer to. So my question is, if you were with a dom would it worry you, turn you off, or any way be bad for you if he had directions with him?

I've been with this woman many times she knows me well I do not think that would be a factor.

Thanks

 

[catalina_francisco]

Can't see why it would be a problem. There are no perfect Dominants who are born with rope in hand and techniques to fill an encyclopedia all expertly ready to be executed in the reality. It takes time, experimenting with what works and looks best, developing your own additions to make the design and method your own, and best of all remembering to enjoy and have fun as you explore together. It may be one way of tying may make it possible to keep your subnmissive tied longer than another, which may be an aim, while another may just become a favourite for it's aesthetic beauty and nothing else. Just go with what feels right for you, explore, and enjoy the journey. As an afterthought, make sure you have some safe implement handy incase you need to cut the ropes to release your sub in a hurry. Is a safety measure, and very important as damage can occur if tightness causes loss of blood flow and swelling, so speed is the essence if you notice these things happening.

Catalina

 

[wolf2002]

Of course you can also take a class from a Dom who was born with a rope in his hands...

Professor Francisco's School for Dom/mes

Where is he anyway? He promised us a new lesson...

 

[DVMnLA]

if you were with a dom would it worry you, turn you off, or any way be bad for you if he had directions with him?

no it wouldn't bother me. i'm there for His pleasure pure and simple. if He wants to read directions He will and if He wants to memorize them He will. it's His time table. His will. and His pleasure. my pleasure comes in pleasing Him. i don't even think the thought would cross my mind about what He's doing. it's not mine to question what He does or how He does it

 

[NemoAlia]

You could just decide it's none of her business whether you're reading the directions -- have her wear a blindfold!

 

[serijules]

The first time I was a model in a japanese rope bondage scene, he not only had directions with him, he had a whole binder full of them! It was very neat to leaf through and see the different patterns and tips, and put me more at ease. The fact that he had no qualms about sharing that with me made me realize this was a man that was very sure of himself...and his own shortcomings. No one is perfect, and a Dom/me that is scared to show that they are not perfect and all-knowledgable is not someone I'd be comfortable playing with.

 

[NCShin]

You could just decide it's none of her business whether you're reading the directions -- have her wear a blindfold!

I've thought of this and might do that. Thanks

The first time I was a model in a japanese rope bondage scene, he not only had directions with him, he had a whole binder full of them! It was very neat to leaf through and see the different patterns and tips, and put me more at ease. The fact that he had no qualms about sharing that with me made me realize this was a man that was very sure of himself...and his own shortcomings. No one is perfect, and a Dom/me that is scared to show that they are not perfect and all-knowledgable is not someone I'd be comfortable playing with.

I've also thought of starting my own binder. Just wish I could find more guides.

 

[HzDomme]

Try Jay Wiseman's Erotic Bondage Handbook for more tips and don't be shy about having a reference nearby. You can't learn unless you practice. Who better to practice on than your sub?


You can also try "EnjoyThe Seductive Art of Japanese Bondage" by Midori, Craig Moray. I don't own it but found it on the site for Amazon books.

 

[dragonlace]

if i trust Him completely then there is no reason to fear....and how can one learn without taking the first step.....i would be happy that He is willing to try something new and open to new ideas and not afraid to try them

 

[Brekke]

here is a wonderful site with the books and on CD if you are interested and it is not too expensive. makes a great christmas present.

http://www.shibari.info/books/

 

[NCShin]

Thought I'd post a little update on this.

I told her it was my first time trying any japanese bondage (she prefered "rope art" as she's japanese and has never heard of it), and she was fine with it and having directions in front of me.

So with that I first bound only her wrists. Using a guide from the internet this was good to get her a bit comfortable with it all but wasn't all that interesting overall. Handcuffs would have acheived the same affect in a much esier manner.

After that, I put her in a Karada. It was much easier than I expected. I did make a few minor errors however.

First, since I wasn't sure of how tight to make it, it turned out to be a bit too loose. Second, I think it would have been better if I had been a little more precise in where the knots went. Having them even in both front and back would have made things easier I think.

Once this was finished and still having enough rope, I bound her arms behind her back. Wrist against wrist, her hands holding her forearms.

This gave a wonderful effect of forcing her to keep her back quite straight and her chest out (read breasts out).

Honestly, I could have just looked at her for a few hours and been quite content. I didn't want her to get bored though, so we moved on.

A pitfall we ran into, and what eventually ended her time in ropes was that when I was behind her, holding most of her upper body's weight with the rope she began to get chaffed at her breastbone from the knot there.

I told her to let me know about any discomfort at all, and so her skin was only red when she told me. Had we continued the rope would have eventually rubbed more than just the top layer of her skin away.

Overall it was a great time.

Thanks all for the advice and the last bit of confidence to do this for the first time.

 

[cellis]

I personally think that bondage is the bomb! And I have a real fetish for the Japanese versions... of course a little crush on Midori doesn't hurt!

Anyway I am reminded about something she said in a seminar I attended... Bondage should be all about having fun... not about perfect knots... it you get both that is just the icing on the cake...

 

[Steels rose]

There is no rule that say You can't use something to cushion the areas that might chafe.

For anyone that is intersted in live demonstration and hands on experience there is a Shibari conference in Chicago in May ...info is available at www.shibaricon.com

 

[Desdemona]

We actually have plans to practice with the rope and knots. I'm completely comfortable with it.

 

[AnelizeDarkEyes]

It wouldn't bother me at all. How else is one to get comfortable with something complicated, other than practice? We were fortunate enough to have Professor Francisco mentor Sir through a body harness at the get-together on me--that was wonderful! But, short of importing our favorite couple from Holland LOL, I'm thinking we're going to have to buy Midori's book, and go from there. Thank goodness Sir was handy with a knot *grin*

~anelize

 

[Mr Blonde]

Good thread! The same thoughts were on my mind!

 

[Princessintrng]

Have Direction Will Travel

OK, I plan to try my hand at Japanese bondage for the first time this coming weekend.

It IS my first time doing it and plan to have a printed set of directions nearby to refer to. So my question is, if you were with a dom would it worry you, turn you off, or any way be bad for you if he had directions with him?

I've been with this woman many times she knows me well I do not think that would be a factor.

Thanks

If I was with a Dom who was willing to get the directions and at least try to do this for me I would not be concerned that he didn't have any expeirence at it. You are not born knowing how to do Japanese Rope Bondage anymore then your sub was born knowing how to serve you. I believe life (all aspects of it) are a learning experience and if you have a history, she knows what your experience level is and she should feel very privileged to be with a Dom who doesn't just say, "I don't know how and it is too hard to learn" Good luck with the project.