Questions raised over accuracy of US coronavirus death toll

[SugarDaddy1]

There’s a reason why some people believe government officials are exaggerating the number of*COVID-19 fatalities.

Some states count presumed coronavirus deaths along with confirmed cases under Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidance issued last month. Other states don’t count those deaths.

Deaths have been classified as a COVID-19 death even after a physician or loved ones reported otherwise. And those who died “with" COVID-19 have been included in the count with those who died “of" COVID-19.

“I think a lot of clinicians are putting that condition (COVID-19) on death certificates when it might not be accurate because they died with coronavirus and not of coronavirus,” Macomb County, Mich., Chief Medical Examiner Daniel Spitz in an interview with the Ann Arbor News last month.

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[FGB]

From what I am hearing if you die they are not going to test you for COVID-19 SO how many deaths from COVID-19 do we have that is called something else?

 

[OldJourno]

Suicide is death by China virus. People in hospice dying of cancer are counted in the China virus death toll.
It's all wildly inaccurate.

 

[bellisarius]

Suicide is death by China virus. People in hospice dying of cancer are counted in the China virus death toll.
It's all wildly inaccurate.

Follow the money.

 

[MassiveGiantBrain]

It is the other way around

From what I am hearing if you die they are not going to test you for COVID-19 SO how many deaths from COVID-19 do we have that is called something else?

If people die and have symptoms consistent with this strain of the China SARS virus Doctors are typically "calling it" a COVID-19 death. But of course there are many other fatal conditions with similar symptoms. It is a real problem but tragically the left is making it political and want it to look as bad as possible to keep the economy shut down until after the election.

 

[Conager]

John Lott outlined all the ways inaccuracies large and small are influencing the numbers. His piece is pretty much what I've been saying.


https://townhall.com/columnists/johnrlottjr/2020/05/16/the-us-is-dramatically-overcounting-coronavirus-deaths-n2568925

 

[bestone4ever]

Suicide is death by China virus. People in hospice dying of cancer are counted in the China virus death toll.
It's all wildly inaccurate.

Uh... huh?

 

[SugarDaddy1]

Hospitals get paid more if patients are listed as COVID-19, and on ventilators

Sen. Scott Jensen, R-Minn., a physician in Minnesota, was interviewed by "The Ingraham Angle" host Laura Ingraham on April 8 on Fox News and claimed hospitals get paid more if Medicare patients are listed as having COVID-19 and get three times as much money if they need a ventilator.

Jensen said, "Hospital administrators might well want to see COVID-19 attached to a discharge summary or a death certificate. Why? Because if it's a straightforward, garden-variety pneumonia that a person is admitted to the hospital for – if they're Medicare – typically, the diagnosis-related group lump sum payment would be $5,000. But if it's COVID-19 pneumonia, then it's $13,000, and if that COVID-19 pneumonia patient ends up on a ventilator, it goes up to $39,000."

We rate the claim that hospitals get paid more if patients are listed as COVID-19 and on ventilators as TRUE.

Hospitals and doctors do get paid more for Medicare patients diagnosed with COVID-19 or if it's considered presumed they have COVID-19 absent a laboratory-confirmed test, and three times more if the patients are placed on a ventilator to cover the cost of care and loss of business resulting from a shift in focus to treat COVID-19 cases.

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[Bas_van_Fraassen]

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Ask FactCheck's conclusion: "Recent legislation pays hospitals higher Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients and treatment, but there is no evidence of fraudulent reporting."

STFU, miles.

 

[SugarDaddy1]

Ask FactCheck's conclusion: "Recent legislation pays hospitals higher Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients and treatment, but there is no evidence of fraudulent reporting."

STFU, miles.

Your obsession with 'miles' is quite telling

 

[Bas_van_Fraassen]

Your obsession with 'miles' is quite telling

^ Still sucks at alt detective-ing.

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[Saint_Ann]

Your obsession with 'miles' is quite telling

He actually created a fake miles account after the real miles got fragged, and ran it into the ground like with all his other alts.

 

[Conager]

Colorado reported 1,150 deaths.

Removing people who actually died of some other cause drops the number to 878.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/05/16/one-state-admits-their-coronavirus-death-toll-is-lower-than-previously-thought-n2568937

 

[Saint_Ann]

Rather sad healthcare system that puts a pricetag on and then values one death over another.



I'm new here but I thought TalkRadio and Counselor numbers were fake Miles.

You mean the real miles?

 

[Saint_Ann]

Real miles? How many are there?
The poor man(?), dissociative identity disorder can be very distressing. Tragic, really.

I had that for awhile...went thru some medical shit...

I don't recall being miles tho.

 

[Misshotndeep]

You folks do realize that other health conditions can lower the immune system and make it easier for folks to die once contracting Covid-19? Cancer and many other illnesses lower the immune system. So while the original diagnosis may not have been Covid-19, Covid-19 may have been what ultimately killed the person. So they are counted as a Covid-19 case. I am more concerned about the people who have died at home from Covid-19 that are not being counted or even tested. That is scary!

 

[Bas_van_Fraassen]

I had that for awhile...went thru some medical shit...

I don't recall being miles tho.

Fake cancer is no joking matter.

 

[Misshotndeep]

Fake cancer is no joking matter.

Glad to know I'm not the only one who remembers that very fucked up shit.

 

[InsightRiot]

Colorado reported 1,150 deaths.

Removing people who actually died of some other cause drops the number to 878.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/05/16/one-state-admits-their-coronavirus-death-toll-is-lower-than-previously-thought-n2568937

Wow.
That’s like a 25% correction.
And the last straw was a 35yo admitted to the ER for alcohol poisoning who was recorded as a corona death.