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depends what kind.
haiku....I've spent anywhere from 10 minutes to 2 hours...<something about a candycane and a blowjob...I still think about it enough to write one here and there about the subject. I'll let you know when I'm done>
without writing for a contest, just when I'm letting the spirit move me....I take a week or so for the first draft....I let it go....then go back into it....I do this about 4 or 5 times.....and by that time I've memorized most of it. I usually end up not looking at the poem for a couple of days and then writing it from memory. I take that version, edit it for a couple of days and then I'm usually done with it. A couple of weeks, a month, two months....the poem knows when it is done.
I've replied heatedly in poem form, and those usually take me less than an hour.
I find the more I read....reading crap, good stuff, excellent stuff, all the stuff......the more tools I have....the more I write, the more I learn the easier it is, the more I edit....lol.
damn vicious circle,
as for the sonnet I'm currently learning about and writing, I'm finding it hard to wrap my mind around it and still use my voice within the structure. I've written two lines today, and I'm sure they will end up changing by the time I am finished.
did I answer your question at all?
perks
haiku....I've spent anywhere from 10 minutes to 2 hours...<something about a candycane and a blowjob...I still think about it enough to write one here and there about the subject. I'll let you know when I'm done>
without writing for a contest, just when I'm letting the spirit move me....I take a week or so for the first draft....I let it go....then go back into it....I do this about 4 or 5 times.....and by that time I've memorized most of it. I usually end up not looking at the poem for a couple of days and then writing it from memory. I take that version, edit it for a couple of days and then I'm usually done with it. A couple of weeks, a month, two months....the poem knows when it is done.
I've replied heatedly in poem form, and those usually take me less than an hour.
I find the more I read....reading crap, good stuff, excellent stuff, all the stuff......the more tools I have....the more I write, the more I learn the easier it is, the more I edit....lol.
damn vicious circle,
as for the sonnet I'm currently learning about and writing, I'm finding it hard to wrap my mind around it and still use my voice within the structure. I've written two lines today, and I'm sure they will end up changing by the time I am finished.
did I answer your question at all?
perks
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It's a process not the 100 yard dash
WriterDom--
I forget the poet's name, but one of his poems took him twenty years and poet, Donald Hall says his poems live with him a long time. I lean this way.
I can write a rough draft in a matter of minutes. Usually it takes several hours spread over days. Some works are simply outlines that I work on over a course of time. I have never written anything that I have not revised. I believe revision is integral tool of writing well. Rather than measure in time, I think I could argue that it takes me several drafts, editing and re-thinking before I am satisfied that a draft is decent. It usually takes a few more drafts and critiques before I have a draft I believe is polished.
The amount of revising might be simple editing or it might mean major rewriting where only the meaning of the first draft is intact. Hemmingway wrote that his minimum revision count was 100. I assumed he was referring to section of a text not an entire novel. Who knows the count then?
Brainstorming and early drafts capture the essence of what I want to say. Unlike some, I can't recall ever writing something well on the first run. Decent, yes. Polished, no. For me, writing is a process.
Peace,
daughter
WriterDom--
I forget the poet's name, but one of his poems took him twenty years and poet, Donald Hall says his poems live with him a long time. I lean this way.
I can write a rough draft in a matter of minutes. Usually it takes several hours spread over days. Some works are simply outlines that I work on over a course of time. I have never written anything that I have not revised. I believe revision is integral tool of writing well. Rather than measure in time, I think I could argue that it takes me several drafts, editing and re-thinking before I am satisfied that a draft is decent. It usually takes a few more drafts and critiques before I have a draft I believe is polished.
The amount of revising might be simple editing or it might mean major rewriting where only the meaning of the first draft is intact. Hemmingway wrote that his minimum revision count was 100. I assumed he was referring to section of a text not an entire novel. Who knows the count then?
Brainstorming and early drafts capture the essence of what I want to say. Unlike some, I can't recall ever writing something well on the first run. Decent, yes. Polished, no. For me, writing is a process.
Peace,
daughter
WriterDom
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To me, poetry is a very spiritual process. Almost a channeling between myself and the higher power, Muse, or whoever whispers in my ear. The more I write, the clearer the voice becomes. I write best when I do at least one poem a day. The more days I skip, the harder it is to get the voice back. And yeah, I do write some bad poems. Some might argue that I only write bad poems.
If a poem is there, it takes about 10 minutes to get the first draft depending on the length. I let it dry out for a while and go back for some editing. If I have a specific theme to write about, it can take longer.
There are days when nothing is there. I can stare at the blank screen and grind one out in an hour or so. But that’s too much like work.
If a poem is there, it takes about 10 minutes to get the first draft depending on the length. I let it dry out for a while and go back for some editing. If I have a specific theme to write about, it can take longer.
There are days when nothing is there. I can stare at the blank screen and grind one out in an hour or so. But that’s too much like work.
daughter
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bad poems
WD--
I think writing is part inspiration, part work. Won't debate the proportions. Like you, there is that 'drying' spell.
Some poems, I don't labor over. Sometimes, the value is in simply the writing. I'm thinking of some of the fun, whimisical things I have written. I don't try to polish everything I write. I do give my best effort for what I think the purpose or the motivation for the write is in the first place.
Writing everyday is where I'm trying to get to. I actually do write everyday, but it is not focused and certainly not my creative efforts. I do feel compelled to write something daily. I don't share everything I write, but writing is like breathing for me.
Good topic.
Peace,
daughter
WD--
I think writing is part inspiration, part work. Won't debate the proportions. Like you, there is that 'drying' spell.
Some poems, I don't labor over. Sometimes, the value is in simply the writing. I'm thinking of some of the fun, whimisical things I have written. I don't try to polish everything I write. I do give my best effort for what I think the purpose or the motivation for the write is in the first place.
Writing everyday is where I'm trying to get to. I actually do write everyday, but it is not focused and certainly not my creative efforts. I do feel compelled to write something daily. I don't share everything I write, but writing is like breathing for me.
Good topic.
Peace,
daughter
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how long do I take.......
Comparitively new to writing poems, they just -- sort of "POP" out. Now, I wonder if I should hold them back a little longer.
literotica.com/stories/memberpage.php?uid=67328
What do you think, please *smmiling*.
GP
Comparitively new to writing poems, they just -- sort of "POP" out. Now, I wonder if I should hold them back a little longer.
literotica.com/stories/memberpage.php?uid=67328
What do you think, please *smmiling*.
GP
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gp
I have one poem that I've been working on for about 2 weeks. I take a short break every once in a while and write a quickie
just for relaxation, then go back to the other poem. This helps me get through the more involved poems.
W
CKED EVE
Mine did -- and still do! Sometimes I'll submit a poem that I've spent about 2 minutes writing, but I do that less and less now. I'm learning to set it aside for a few days. When I read it again, I can see what works and what doesn't.
I have one poem that I've been working on for about 2 weeks. I take a short break every once in a while and write a quickie
just for relaxation, then go back to the other poem. This helps me get through the more involved poems. W
CKED EVE
mskittykatt
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Good idea WE, i have troubles letting things stew. Perhaps if i write other things just for myself or whatever, it will be easier for me to be more patient.
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stewing.....
Yes, WE, thanks for your advice. I am learning to cuddle my poems a little before I push them out into the cruel world...
One of the things that has surprised me is that poems I felt were my better efforts have had less attention than stuff I am less pleased with... No accounting for taste I guess.
GP
Yes, WE, thanks for your advice. I am learning to cuddle my poems a little before I push them out into the cruel world...
One of the things that has surprised me is that poems I felt were my better efforts have had less attention than stuff I am less pleased with... No accounting for taste I guess.
GP
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