Question regarding "romance"

[sr71plt]

Also...can I get away with not saying boob/dick size outright? It's just a personal preference of mine. I get pulled back from a story when I see something like "She walked with her 36-DD tits bouncing in the breeze" or " She pulled out his 9 3/4 inch cock from his pants". I get that some people like the visual but does it need to be there in every erotic story? Can I leave that out and just mention the sensations of using said assets as a way of telling size?

Sorry...I have a million questions! I will try not to overload the forum.



**haha! Just saw that I'm a "Virgin". It's been a while since I held that title!**

In another direct answer to this question, sure you can get away with a story without using measurements.

Next question?

 

[lovecraft68]

The stat argument is never ending. In the end its a matter of what the author wants to do and that's all there is to it.

But from there you now have the reader and that is a mixed bag. Some people have little imagination and need stats. Some people simply like them "Wow, 38dd? Damn!" and it works.

Others may roll their eyes and say okay, this person has to point blank tell me her chest 38dd which tells me either they don't have the word skills to convey that without stats or perhaps they think the reader is a dim bulb and needs that.

Now personally I fall under the second example, stats are an eye roll for me. If everything else is good I may keep reading, but if the story was iffy in general that's the click off.

I like letting the reader decide what the consider large. I'll say ample and right away anyone reading this is coming up with a vision of what they would think is ample. Sizable works for me for cock, what is that? 8" 10" bigger? Let the reader form their ideal of the character, that's simply what I prefer in reading and writing.

Second circle made a point that if his character thinks in terms of stats then it makes sense to convey them. I can understand that concept. But now you need a reader who thinks that way to like it.

All I know is I can honestly say I have never looked at a woman's breasts and tried to calculate their measurements. "wow those are nice" is a enough for me.

 

[ChloeTzang]

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[8letters]

First off...hi, all! I'm Eva. Long time lurker, first time poster. *crowd says "Hi, Eva!"*

Anyway.

I'm currently writing a story about a brother/sister couple. As I'm progressing into it, I am realizing that it is predominantly a love story. Yes, there is sex (fingers crossed that it's HOT sex) but the real story is the LOVE, the relationship. This is going to be a long one too (not sure how long yet). Will there be interest here for a long, incestous love affair story? Is there some unwritten romance vs hardcore banging ratio I should be aware of?

I have to write this story the way the characters have come to me but I do want to be aware of my audience's preferences.

Thanks for any info you can provide.

"Hi, Eva!"

Let me join the others in saying that your story belongs in the incest category.

For incest stories, it's hard to keep interest after the first time the couple has sex. I'm not sure how a long love affair well be received.

I have a number of brother-sister stories that are strong on romance. Check out the story in my sig. If you have any more questions, send me a PM.

 

[lovecraft68]

For incest stories, it's hard to keep interest after the first time the couple has sex. I'm not sure how a long love affair well be received.

Depends on the story and readership. Plenty of incest series are nothing more than every chapter being more sex in different places "Chapter two, Jake and mom in the pool" and they will keep doing well and getting comments for "more!"

But for people who want a story, yes its more work, but the reception will be just as good.

Incest has several factions like every other category and that includes the one handed readers and the "incest romance' crowd. I spent so much time appealing to the latter than when I finally did a couple strokers for fun they killed them.

 

[SecondCircle]

Good point. Engineers, tailors, shoesalesmen, personal stylist/shopper would definitely think in sizes and measurements.

But regular folks? Kinda rare.

You gave a few good exceptions. A guy with a "relatively" short height may insist he's 5 feet 3 AND A HALF inches tall with special emphasis on that half inch. Because that height, and the related insecurity, defines him. Same with a girl who's short and relies on good heels to feel slightly normal.

or a guy with a slightly smaller dick can actually quote his length down to nearest 1/4 inch. Same idea.

But just talking about sex, feeling up the breasts, dropping the pants... sizes don't enter the equation. This ain't a bikini contest.

Huh. You ain't from round here then. I know perfectly normal people that talk in height (she was about 5'9", he was like six five, etc.) and plenty of them take guesses as to the size of women's breasts. Whether that's an exact number or just an assumption of "D" and "C". Doesn't matter if they are right, or experts, or whatever. No, it doesn't have to be a shoe salesman or Victoria Secret clerk.

Point is, it's not always wrong. It can be. An there's instances where it fits. But I personally don't think there should be a hidden "never do it" rule.

 

[SecondCircle]

Second circle made a point that if his character thinks in terms of stats then it makes sense to convey them. I can understand that concept. But now you need a reader who thinks that way to like it.

Not really. I mean, readers are of many different tastes. So, that last line is just about true for everything.

It's sort of like the unreliable narrator thing. When you're telling a story through the eyes of a specific character... say, a serial killer, his voice and his logic don't have to match that of the audience. You're seeing the world through their eyes. So his fucked up thoughts on how he's doing the world a service by murdering elderly people probably won't find much empathy from any audience... but that isn't the point is it?

If you wrote sizes/stats from a certain character's perspective, a horn dog construction worker or gossiping office clerk for instance, they (the character) don't necessarily need to appeal to any audience's sensibilities to "be themselves". Jessica the homewrecker might say "he had an eight inch cock." Because that's how she would put it. An audience will or won't like that, as with anything.

In this sense, the character is actually telling you the story, the events as they see them, not the author. I, as an author, will often opt for a more bit by bit unveiling throughout the story, or to convey large breasts I might tell you how they jiggle or bounced at some point... something more visual like that. But at times I might step behind the controls of a character that thinks in terms of cup sizes or inches. In that case, it might be viable to tell it the way the character would tell it.

 

[sr71plt]

Second circle made a point that if his character thinks in terms of stats then it makes sense to convey them. I can understand that concept. But now you need a reader who thinks that way to like it.

I made that point in the post before his, by the way.

 

[8letters]

Depends on the story and readership. Plenty of incest series are nothing more than every chapter being more sex in different places "Chapter two, Jake and mom in the pool" and they will keep doing well and getting comments for "more!"

True.

Incest has several factions like every other category and that includes the one handed readers and the "incest romance' crowd. I spent so much time appealing to the latter than when I finally did a couple strokers for fun they killed them.

Which of your stories would you recommend for someone to look over to get an idea of how a romantic brother-sister story can be done?

 

[lovecraft68]

I made that point in the post before his, by the way.

Didn't read through everything, his was the one I happened to catch.

 

[lovecraft68]

True.


Which of your stories would you recommend for someone to look over to get an idea of how a romantic brother-sister story can be done?

I don't write a lot of sibling stories. Siblings with Benefits is a dark wreck. Anniversary to remember is a sibling romance. But it was written over five years ago and you'd be braving some pretty bad grammar if you read it.

Porn shoot with my sister is near the end, and its there throughout if one looks close enough.

But regardless I wouldn't say either should be a 'how to' to write one, just my spin on them.

 

[Eva_Star]

Thank you all for such great information! Sorry it took a while to respond, I work really long hours.

Especially great call out on the category issue, as that would have been my next question. I've read so many hot/amazing/sexy stories on this site (I even recognize some of the names posting here...which, not going to lie, gives me a small case of fangirl). I hadn't read much in the incest/taboo category until this story started developing in my mind. Then I binge read at least a hundred stories, which brought me here with my questions. My story seems very "tame" and mushy in comparison.

Thank you all again for the great tips!

 

[colddiesel]

Ooops. Okay. I surrender. Forgive me.

That's the second time in the last couple of weeks you have owned up to being wrong/misguided about something. That makes you pretty special in this neck of the woods.

 

[EverLux]

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but you can always search for multiple tags within a category.

For example, here's what you get when you look for "romance" and "brother/sister" in I/T:
https://tags.literotica.com/incest-taboo-category-tags/romance/?tag%5B%5D=brother%2Fsister

It'll help you find stories that may be more along the lines of yours. And you can get an idea of if/how those writers handle readers' expectations and the responses they receive.

Good luck with your story!
(Oh, and hi! )

 

[lovecraft68]

First off...hi, all! I'm Eva. Long time lurker, first time poster. *crowd says "Hi, Eva!"*

Anyway.

I'm currently writing a story about a brother/sister couple. As I'm progressing into it, I am realizing that it is predominantly a love story. Yes, there is sex (fingers crossed that it's HOT sex) but the real story is the LOVE, the relationship. This is going to be a long one too (not sure how long yet). Will there be interest here for a long, incestous love affair story? Is there some unwritten romance vs hardcore banging ratio I should be aware of?

I have to write this story the way the characters have come to me but I do want to be aware of my audience's preferences.

Thanks for any info you can provide.

If you're interested in some of the do's and dont's I've discovered in incest, especially when it comes to taboo romance, you can check this out.

https://www.literotica.com/s/write-incest-like-a-mother-fucker

 

[Eva_Star]

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[ChloeTzang]

Xxxxxxxxxxxxf

 

[lovecraft68]

Conscious of my lowly status as a mere kitten in the world of writing on Literotica, I abjectly lower my ears, tuck in my little paws and meoooow an abject plea for forgiveness for my ignorance from the big alpha dogs.

Seriously, I'm aware I'm just starting out here and I that have a tremendous amount to learn about writing in general - and I don't take myself too seriously, so if I do screw up, well, I'm not that shy about saying so or about taking advice. And I don't get all hung up when my cute little nose gets rubbed in it - I'd rather learn.

And this is such a good place for that.

Watch out, you paint yourself as too submissive your PM box is going to get filled up by 'doms' looking to make you theirs.

 

[EverLux]

Watch out, you paint yourself as too submissive your PM box is going to get filled up by 'doms' looking to make you theirs.

Hell, with how adorable and kittenish she was being, I'm ready to PM her, myself.

Screw that, I'll do it publicly.

Hey Chloe!
Wanna come curl up at my feet tonight? Or you could sit in my lap, and I'll brush your hair and scritch your forehead, and... fuck I'm bad at this.
Ever

 

[lovecraft68]

Hell, with how adorable and kittenish she was being, I'm ready to PM her, myself.

Screw that, I'll do it publicly.

Hey Chloe!
Wanna come curl up at my feet tonight? Or you could sit in my lap, and I'll brush your hair and scritch your forehead, and... fuck I'm bad at this.
Ever

You have to call her kitten or babygirl, and she has to play it up and pout for you and then you gently kiss then nibble that trembling lower lip and...

And then on topic you have to compliment her full c-cup breasts and say that the legs on her five foot nine and one quarter inch frame just go on forever....

 

[ChloeTzang]

Xxxxxxxcccc

 

[NOIRTRASH]

Conscious of my lowly status as a mere kitten in the world of writing on Literotica, I abjectly lower my ears, tuck in my little paws and meoooow an abject plea for forgiveness for my ignorance from the big alpha dogs.

Seriously, I'm aware I'm just starting out here and I that have a tremendous amount to learn about writing in general - and I don't take myself too seriously, so if I do screw up, well, I'm not that shy about saying so or about taking advice. And I don't get all hung up when my cute little nose gets rubbed in it - I'd rather learn.

And this is such a good place for that.

The good news is, it only takes about a week to get better than most of us.

 

[TxRad]

The good news is, it only takes about a week to get better than most of us.

Speaking about yourself again, I see.

 

[jehoram]

Conscious of my lowly status as a mere kitten in the world of writing on Literotica, I abjectly lower my ears, tuck in my little paws and meoooow an abject plea for forgiveness for my ignorance from the big alpha dogs.

Most of the kittens I've seen, when confronted by danger, don't do that at all. They puff up, hiss, and display their tiny little claws and teeth. I bet you're like that, too.

Seriously, I'm aware I'm just starting out here and I that have a tremendous amount to learn about writing in general - and I don't take myself too seriously, so if I do screw up, well, I'm not that shy about saying so or about taking advice. And I don't get all hung up when my cute little nose gets rubbed in it - I'd rather learn.

And this is such a good place for that.

If you're going for the high scores, it pays to look at the high scores in your category and see what the readers like in the way of specific measurements and like that. If you're just trying to write the kind of erotica you like to read, screw all that and write what turns you on. There's far too much of the former around here, and far too little of the latter. Your true audience will find you.

 

[Runnerwrites]

I'd read it. Sounds like a hot topic. And the romance actually interests me.