Question regarding Homesexuality vs Bi-Sexuality

[PacificBlue]

Why are homosexuals a protected class but bi-sexuals aren't?

 

[Svedish_Chef]

We bisexuals are evil

You havent learnt that yet.

 

[Never]

I believe that most non-discrimination language uses the term 'sexual orientation' and that covers everyone bi, gay or straight. I can't think of any examples where gays are protected but bisexuals are not.

Where did you get this?

 

[Siren]

 

[PacificBlue]

out of my ass...where I pull every other dumb and stupid question I ask here.

*deep breath* *taking myself down a notch*

I was thinking about the fact that we have "Gay Pride Month", "Gay and Lesbian Networks" at college, workplaces, etc., and almost every HR book I've seen has a section on "Gay and Lesbian issues". I just hadn't seen anything in regard to bi-sexuality.

Was just curious. I wasn't preaching gospel.

 

[Guest]

I can only speak from my personal experiences. I have commonly gotten the speech that "There is no such thing as bisexuality. Either you are gay or straight. You're greedy. You're trying to follow the crowd."
People can be unkind.

But, I'm not sure anyone is truly protected.

 

[Svedish_Chef]

Siren may be right in her terming of it not being in a protected class.

In Australia at least, there are gay clubs and lesbian clubs and the like which have exemptions overriding the anti-discriminiation act, and are allowed to only have gay workers, and clients etc.

Bisexuals have no such luxury, not fitting into either stream and yet not being different enough to warrant special treatment either.

Also bisexuals as a rule dont feel the need to 'advertise' their sexuality and force people to accept them, because according to what you feel like depends on whic bar you go into or who you go out with.

 

[Sillyman]

Partially because I think very little has happened yet to get bisexuals politically motivated and partly because there is less a need to protect themselves from discrimination. Bisexual individuals can more easily pretend to be whatever the dominant sexuality is without causing themselves to much emotional pain about it, so it becomes less of an issue. Most Gay and Lesbian organizations do include bisexuals under their banner though.

 

[Guru]

 

[Siren]

 

[Never]

1: Because the people who named these organizations and sections were insensitive. The majority of the newer ones tend to fit in the words Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Trans. But it's unfortunate that some are still stuck in the dark ages.

2: If you're asking why Bisexuals don't get their own sections, well the reasons for that are practical and political. There aren't always enough bisexuals to finance and form a group and it's sometimes seen as taking from the community.

 

[PacificBlue]

1: Because the people who named these organizations and sections were insensitive. The majority of the newer ones tend to fit in the words Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Trans. But it's unfortunate that some are still stuck in the dark ages.

2: If you're asking why Bisexuals don't get their own sections, well the reasons for that are practical and political. There aren't always enough bisexuals to finance and form a group and it's sometimes seen as taking from the community.

That's what I wanted to know. Thank you.

 

[Never]

PacificBlue:
"That's what I wanted to know. Thank you. "

I live to serve.


raindancer, sometimes I wonder about human nature. How can a group that gets so much crap thrown at them be so willing to deny others the simple right to define their own sexuality? The "You're going along with the crowd line." really annoys me. being bisexual is no easier than being gay, and with an the gay community having an attitude like that it can be even harder.

 

[Guest]

Never, I think it's the black and white thinking. It's gotta be this or that. We need definitions and solid labels.

Well, I don't. And, I end up taking attitudes and beliefs to heart.

 

[Svedish_Chef]

Being bisexual is no easier than being gay, and with an the gay community having an attitude like that it can be even harder.

If you ever need proof of that, tell people you are bi in a gay club.

The horror on their faces is worse than if you told them you have AIDS.

 

[Siren]

 

[Guru]

 

[Shy Tall Guy]

PacificBlue: raindancer, sometimes I wonder about human nature. How can a group that gets so much crap thrown at them be so willing to deny others the simple right to define their own sexuality? The "You're going along with the crowd line." really annoys me. being bisexual is no easier than being gay, and with an the gay community having an attitude like that it can be even harder.

Two words: Human Nature.

Take any group of repressed/oppressed people, be it sexual, religious or ethnic, and you will find the same percentage of them will be just as intolerant of others as any other group - in fact, they are often worse as they feel they need to "get even".

 

[Siren]

 

[Never]

You people have convinced me. I hate gay people.
Intolerant bastards! :angry:

 

[Siren]

 

[Guru]

 

[Rupali]

Too true

originally posted by svedish_chef

If you ever need proof of that, tell people you are bi in a gay club.
The horror on their faces is worse than if you told them you have AIDS.

I've had that happen too many times, the knowing looks, rolled eyes and smirks. Several people have told me to my face that bisexuality isn't possible and I should just come out.

 

[cymbidia]

Take any group of repressed/oppressed people, be it sexual, religious or ethnic, and you will find the same percentage of them will be just as intolerant of others as any other group - in fact, they are often worse as they feel they need to "get even".

I don't think this is true of the BDSM crowd.
I think we're at least as accepting of individual differences among those who consider themselves as BDSM'ers as any other minority group - and far more than most.

We have to be. There are far too many ways to "do" BDSM for us to be able to draw many lines in the sand around the topic.

We have gays and lesbians and bi's and tranny's and every color and every look and straight tops and bottoms and emotional subs and service subs and masochistic subs and plain ordinary masochists and the Goreans and people who want age play and those who want to be ponies or own puppies or live in a cage or love or not love or do it for the sensation play only and it just goes on and on and on.

All of them fit under the BDSM umbrella - someplace.
We accept that all of them are BDSM, in some manner.

So i think you're wrong. The percentage of intolerant people within the ranks of BDSM'ers is quite a bit lower than your supposition would have it.

At least that's the way i see it.



Of course, in order to further defend my position i would have to be able to identify what within the ranks of BDSM means - and i'm not sure i can do that to the satisfaction of a sizeable majority here at Lit. I'm pretty sure that it would be impossible here, on the GB, anyway. Y'all won't let me use the word "n--la" and i'd need that word in my explanation.

 

[Guru]