Question about...

[shannon_est]

'rights' to ideas posted in this forum. For instance, if I post an idea for a story that I want to write, but need a little help, a little shove so to speak, is there an unspoken/unwritten rule that basically says to everyone else "hey, it's a no-no to use that"?

I think I've thrown out a couple of ideas in various threads in this forum when people have asked for ideas... that's cool... use em... ya asked, I threw in my 2 cents worth. That I understand someone else using.

I'm just curious if anyone else has had this happen? I've had too much time to think tonite, it happens when you have a 2 hour ride (one way) to a work site, and everyone else but the driver is asleep.

 

[sirhugs]

I think I'm they longest serving current regular ( someone correct me if I'm wrong/apology in advance) and don't know that there is a clear answer.

Generally, I persomnally post surplus ideas ( I have WAY more than I have time or talent to write).

if I am looking for 'workshopping' help on an idea I plan to use, I generally say so.

I'd be curious as well what others think.

 

[bisexplicit]

I know personally that if you say the idea is something that you plan to write about - I wouldn't take it. However, given that this is an open forum, there may be those who would.

I don't usually post ideas I am planning on writing here, instead if I want help I tend to go on a more one-on-one basis.

 

[sirhugs]

I know personally that if you say the idea is something that you plan to write about - I wouldn't take it. However, given that this is an open forum, there may be those who would.

I don't usually post ideas I am planning on writing here, instead if I want help I tend to go on a more one-on-one basis.

my take on that is that I don't usually post enough specifics to worry. Plus my style, or lack of , is individualized. Anybody else taking the detail from a post, or basic idea, would have to go their own direction. So worst that could happen is two variations for readers to enjoy , or compare. The more the maerrier.

 

[bisexplicit]

my take on that is that I don't usually post enough specifics to worry. Plus my style, or lack of , is individualized. Anybody else taking the detail from a post, or basic idea, would have to go their own direction. So worst that could happen is two variations for readers to enjoy , or compare. The more the maerrier.

That is a good point. Two people with the same basic concept would tend to write completely different stories.

So, yeah, then I agree with you - its pretty much safe to use this forum as a sounding board.

 

[sirhugs]

That is a good point. Two people with the same basic concept would tend to write completely different stories.

So, yeah, then I agree with you - its pretty much safe to use this forum as a sounding board.

It might be different if you are posting a well drawn plot with full character summaries etc....

 

[Colleen Thomas]

I would say ideas here are opent to use. If you have one you are working on, the SDC is probably a more appropriate place to go for a shove in the right direction or some guided critique.

 

[TheCaptain]

I post ideas here for the most part that I am looking for help/insight on, I don't really mind if others come along and lift em off me cause I reckon I'll probably end up coming out on top with anything I end up seeing through, anyways! *overego, is me

If I can help others, will throw in my two cents here or there, but mostly I just like to bounce my own current thoughts off others. If I'm running with something hot thou, I keep it close to the chest til its done, maybe put out early concepts here or there but not very likely I'll continue that once past the first page

That's just the way I work - I recieved an email WAAAAAAY back when, from one guy who didn't like the 2 PARAGRAPHS of gay sex in my incest story, A Birthday To Remember.

He said he was going to rip off my ENTIRE story and post it on another site, just without those two paragraphs... from that point on I thought to myself 'fine, if some fucktard wants to steal my shit and can wake up the next morning feeling fine and chipper, without thinking of him/herself as an unoriginal, thieving prick, then more power to'em'. So I don't really worry anymore about things I cannot change, and if they want to rip off other people's work and can feel like they've achieved something [when they haven't], then bully for them...

Capt

 

[shannon_est]

my take on that is that I don't usually post enough specifics to worry. Plus my style, or lack of , is individualized. Anybody else taking the detail from a post, or basic idea, would have to go their own direction. So worst that could happen is two variations for readers to enjoy , or compare. The more the maerrier.

Yeah, I thot of this. Same idea is gonna be 2 different stories because of writing styles, personalities etc.....

The question was really not a big deal... I just have to much time to think sometimes. Was just curious as to what others thought and had experienced.

 

[Recidiva]

"Hedwig and the Angry Inch" has some stuff about this I can lift and use right here. Someone stole all his songs and after the anger and angst and all, eventually someone is tired of the drama and says "Why don't you write something new?"

Plagiarism happens all the time, all over the place. If your stuff is good enough to plagiarize, take it as a compliment.

Mostly if you're a good writer, nobody can really write like you do, and the folks without talent will just have to steal it AFTER you write it.

You got there first.

That's what counts.

If you're worried about someone stealing your stuff, though, then go the copyright route and don't publish in a public format, get an advance first from a publisher.

 

[emap]

I always don't care, though I haven't had a problem with someone taking something that I'm writing up myself, though about the only thing I've posted on the forums that I'm writing everyone turned down as to hard, so maybe I don't have anything to worry about anyway.

 

[snooper]

'rights' to ideas posted in this forum. For instance, if I post an idea for a story that I want to write, but need a little help, a little shove so to speak, is there an unspoken/unwritten rule that basically says to everyone else "hey, it's a no-no to use that"? ...

That depends on how specific the idea is. If someone says "Hey. I had an idea - boy meets girl then fucks her." it cannot possibly be wrong for someone else to think that this is a wonderful idea and write a story like that.

On the other hand if someone says "Hey. I had an idea - one legged blind 18-y-o Ethiopian boy meets a 37-y-o Chinese girl who has had one hand chopped off for theft, then fucks her." it cannot possibly be right for someone else to think that this is a wonderful idea and write a story exactly like that.

I know it is not really an answer, but somewhere between these two extremes there is a line which should be drawn. That said, when two people write stories from the same idea that someone has offered on here, you would be surprised how different the two end products are. And yes, I am too idle to dig out an example.

BTW

I think I'm they longest serving current regular ...

It depends on definitions, but I have been around under three different names (a long story and not really my choice) since early in 2000 when I was here as Charmbrights.
Oh dear, you make me realise how much time I have spent on here. http://images.rapidforum.com/chatimages/smilies/wand.gif

 

[sirhugs]

That depends on how specific the idea is. If someone says "Hey. I had an idea - boy meets girl then fucks her." it cannot possibly be wrong for someone else to think that this is a wonderful idea and write a story like that.

On the other hand if someone says "Hey. I had an idea - one legged blind 18-y-o Ethiopian boy meets a 37-y-o Chinese girl who has had one hand chopped off for theft, then fucks her." it cannot possibly be right for someone else to think that this is a wonderful idea and write a story exactly like that.

I know it is not really an answer, but somewhere between these two extremes there is a line which should be drawn. That said, when two people write stories from the same idea that someone has offered on here, you would be surprised how different the two end products are. And yes, I am too idle to dig out an example.

BTW It depends on definitions, but I have been around under three different names (a long story and not really my choice) since early in 2000 when I was here as Charmbrights.
Oh dear, you make me realise how much time I have spent on here. http://images.rapidforum.com/chatimages/smilies/wand.gif

so can I at least claim to be the longest serving bad typing current regular?

 

[TheCaptain]

so can I at least claim to be the longest serving bad typing current regular?

I say, 'yes you can!' on that score

Capt

 

[snooper]

I say, 'yes you can!' on that score

Capt

DO I detect a guilty conscience here?

 

[TheCaptain]

DO I detect a guilty conscience here?

meh, probably

If I spell things incorrectly on these here boards, chalk it up to booze and/or slang

Capt

 

[sirhugs]

meh, probably

If I spell things incorrectly on these here boards, chalk it up to booze and/or slang

Capt

is that better or worse than just plain bad typing?

 

[TheCaptain]

is that better or worse than just plain bad typing?

meh, just as long as the 'idea' behind the words gets across to all

Capt

 

[cloudy]

"Hedwig and the Angry Inch" has some stuff about this I can lift and use right here. Someone stole all his songs and after the anger and angst and all, eventually someone is tired of the drama and says "Why don't you write something new?"

Plagiarism happens all the time, all over the place. If your stuff is good enough to plagiarize, take it as a compliment.

Mostly if you're a good writer, nobody can really write like you do, and the folks without talent will just have to steal it AFTER you write it.

You got there first.

That's what counts.

If you're worried about someone stealing your stuff, though, then go the copyright route and don't publish in a public format, get an advance first from a publisher.

Just a couple of things....

To most authors, plagarism is not a compliment. It's someone taking something that you've sweated and agonized over, and claiming it as their own. I see it as theft, pure and simple, and have never felt "complimented" when I've found one of my stories posted somewhere else.

Everything you write is copywrited, immediately, whether you go through the copywrite office, or not. Publishing something in a public format, such as Literotica, doesn't void your copywrite - ever.

I'm not flaming you, but wait until you find your work posted somewhere else, and someone else taking credit for it. I don't think you'll feel complimented, and I don't think you'll be quite so blase' about it, either.

 

[Recidiva]

Just a couple of things....

To most authors, plagarism is not a compliment. It's someone taking something that you've sweated and agonized over, and claiming it as their own. I see it as theft, pure and simple, and have never felt "complimented" when I've found one of my stories posted somewhere else.

Everything you write is copywrited, immediately, whether you go through the copywrite office, or not. Publishing something in a public format, such as Literotica, doesn't void your copywrite - ever.

I'm not flaming you, but wait until you find your work posted somewhere else, and someone else taking credit for it. I don't think you'll feel complimented, and I don't think you'll be quite so blase' about it, either.

I'm not offended, this is just my real take on it. I respect yours also, everyone has to choose their level of ownership. I don't really take my writing all that seriously, I do it for fun like I do dancing for fun. If I went out on the dance floor and someone started doing my moves, I'd think it was something I'd given out to the group that someone else enjoyed.

I know there are all sorts of "intellectual property" laws and people who might want to make money from this, but for me, it's really for fun. If I wanted it all to myself I'd keep it all to myself. But just like going out onto the dance floor, you have to be aware of group dynamics and that someone else might want to do what you're doing and say they made it up. It just happens.

I don't take it personally. This is only because I'm not a professional choreographer or professional writer and I don't intend to be until or unless I get a check from it, and that's not likely to happen, as I lack ambition

Anything I write one day I can write something else completely different the next. Just like dancing. If someone feels they have to steal my stuff to feel like they have any talent, how is that not a compliment if I choose to take it that way? I feel sorry for them for not having enough personal talent to have confidence in themselves that who they are is just as good as who I am. I can afford to be generous, none of this is for money, only for fun.