Question About Underage Sex

mernie99

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I know that Lit has this rule about not using minors in their stories. I wrote a story that essentially couples a 20 year old young woman and a 27 year old man; that's where the descriptive sex is contained. But I included some a few comments about how she lost her virginity (around age 16), and it's implied there were more men in her life prior to age 18. It's not particularly steamy .. more factual than anything else. But I'm trying to paint a picture about this girls past and think that the story won't be as good without the explanation. Do you think Lit would have a problem with this? Thanks in advance.

Let me cut and paste the appropriate text:

The freckled red-head girl in pigtails slowly morphed into a young lady, with all the appropriate teenage body parts. I seemed to have one big growth spurt around age 15. When I returned to the ball park in the spring, many of the younger players looked at me differently. I was no longer their little sis, but rather a short tomboyish girl who looked hot in cut off shorts and tight tees.

A year later, I had a huge crush on Bruce, a 19 year old centerfielder from Little Rock with killer blue eyes and jet black hair. At first he was very sweet to me; I just knew that we would be married at some point. But then his teammates started teasing him, saying that I was “jail bait.” I was hurt when he turned cold on me, and I needed to prove that I wasn’t just a kid. On a Saturday night in September, we smoked some joints in the stands long after the ball park had closed. A few hours later, I lost my virginity to Bruce on a squeaky wooden table in the equipment room. Until the season ended, we met up in secret. He fucked me as often as he could. I was heartbroken when the season ended and he returned to Little Rock to work at his uncle’s car lot.

As spring approached, I called Bruce. He was strangely distant to me, said that he was promoted to Triple-A. I felt like a fool, being so chaste while he was away and waiting for a return that didn’t materialize.

The following summer I was more accepted by the players. After most games, I hung with the guys. I was gaining the reputation as team nympho, the redhead tomboy who would spread her legs for a ballplayer in need.

A few days before heading to college, with a freshly minted fake ID in hand, the guys took me out for pizza and beer. After the place closed, five guys and I headed to Kevin’s apartment where we finished off a few more six packs and watched a West Coast game on cable. Sammy said they wanted to give me a good send off, and set me up in Kevin’s bedroom. One at a time, they would empty their seed into me. Once the fucking starts, I tend cum easily and loudly. They nicknamed me “The Alarm Clock”, because the boys could predict when the next should be ready for action. It was a non-stop fuck fest until the wee hours of the morning; most guys came 3-4 times in me that night. God, if Daddy only knew what his diminutive red-headed tomboy was doing.
 
You will have to delete it. You can mention that she lost her virginity when she was younger... but your much too graphic in this piece. This is not a mention this is a sex scene.
 
Jenny_Jackson said:
You will have to delete it. You can mention that she lost her virginity when she was younger... but your much too graphic in this piece. This is not a mention this is a sex scene.

Pity. What if the gang bang was shortly after her 18th birthday? Is the description in the ballpark locker room too graphic?
 
mernie99 said:
Pity. What if the gang bang was shortly after her 18th birthday? Is the description in the ballpark locker room too graphic?

No... as long as it's clear everyone is 18 or older.
 
Just change the first two sentences to:
The freckled red-head girl in pigtails morphed into a young lady, with all the appropriate womanly body parts, in one big growth spurt.
Now you are not mentioning an under-age experience.
 
I'd clear up this part:

A few days before heading to college, with a freshly minted fake ID in hand, the guys took me out for pizza and beer.

so that it that refers to "I". As it stands, the sentence reads that the guys were heading to college, not that she was. Since her age isn't clear and simple addition brings it to either 17 or 18, it can get you rejected. Try:

A few days before I headed to college, with a freshly minted fake ID in hand, the guys took me out for pizza and beer.


The use of the word "fucked" may pass muster since it isn't evocative. "spread her legs" may or may not. The rest of it looks okay to me.

Generally, you can refer to underage sex and you can use vulgar terms in the process. The problem comes from whether or not the minor is "sexualized" for the reader. It's sometimes hard to draw the line on what the author's intent is--folks like to circumvent the rules--and Lit tends to err on the side of caution.
 
KillerMuffin said:
I'd clear up this part:

A few days before heading to college, with a freshly minted fake ID in hand, the guys took me out for pizza and beer.

so that it that refers to "I". As it stands, the sentence reads that the guys were heading to college, not that she was. Since her age isn't clear and simple addition brings it to either 17 or 18, it can get you rejected. Try:

A few days before I headed to college, with a freshly minted fake ID in hand, the guys took me out for pizza and beer.


The use of the word "fucked" may pass muster since it isn't evocative. "spread her legs" may or may not. The rest of it looks okay to me.

Generally, you can refer to underage sex and you can use vulgar terms in the process. The problem comes from whether or not the minor is "sexualized" for the reader. It's sometimes hard to draw the line on what the author's intent is--folks like to circumvent the rules--and Lit tends to err on the side of caution.

Very good feedback; thanks.

I think I'm getting it. The underage stuff can't be erotic ... just factual.

Good point how "I" headed out to college.

It's entirely possible that she was 18 at the gangbang. After all, the fake ID was for drinking. So perhaps the occasion will be her 18th birthday, in addition to or instead of a college send off. That's an easy fix.

I am trying to make a point here, though ... that the girl lost her virginity early and fooled around quite a bit. The night with the boys demonstrates her casual view of sex. After this text there's a bit more discussion of her antics in college, all of which leads up to the actual (erotic) story.

And I think I'm very close to making that point without making the under 18 portion "hot."

Three friends, all excellent readers/writers, have read the entire story. The feedback has been very positive. The first one said it was "hot". The second one concluded "hawt." And although I thought the story was quite innovative, the third one said it was a bit predictable ... but he jerked off anyhow. (And he rarely JO's for stories.) So, hey, if I'm high on the JO scale, I must be doing something right.

So one question. (Grinning) I've written three stories now. I'm pretty happy with my editing on two of the three. Admittedly I need to work on this one a bit more. So, at what point does one decide it's good enough for the next step. It's sort of like the fear of flying. Every time re-read the stories I find a few things that I can change to make it better. At one point do you decide it's good enough, to move on to the next step?

M
 
mernie99 said:
... but he jerked off anyhow. (And he rarely JO's for stories.) So, hey, if I'm high on the JO scale, I must be doing something right.

May I have the opportunity as well? :kiss:
 
mernie99 said:
So one question. (Grinning) I've written three stories now. I'm pretty happy with my editing on two of the three. Admittedly I need to work on this one a bit more. So, at what point does one decide it's good enough for the next step. It's sort of like the fear of flying. Every time re-read the stories I find a few things that I can change to make it better. At one point do you decide it's good enough, to move on to the next step?

M
Good Question and one that plagues every writer on Lit.

The best advice I've heard is this - Write the story, edit it get it ready to post then put it away for a week or so. Then pick it up and read it. If the story still reads well, it's read to go. Don't try rewriting it to death or you'll never get it done and you'll likely end up with a different story entirely.
 
mernie99 said:
So one question. (Grinning) I've written three stories now. I'm pretty happy with my editing on two of the three. Admittedly I need to work on this one a bit more. So, at what point does one decide it's good enough for the next step. It's sort of like the fear of flying. Every time re-read the stories I find a few things that I can change to make it better. At one point do you decide it's good enough, to move on to the next step?

M


With new works, I couldn't agree with Jenny Jackson more. I have a two week cooling off period because I still miss stupid things with one week. I'm just not that good.



With reworking posted stuff? It's individual. I know of one Lit writer who has posted, removed, rewritten, and posted a novel length series at least five times in as many years. Some people never go back. I don't. I've deleted some stuff that was gag-me bad and left it in the annals of Muffie-shame.


Personally, I think older stories only need re-working for glaring errors (like spelling or punctuation stuff). Honestly, your Lit readership would prefer new stories, not reworded old ones, simply because they've already read them. If you're concerned about rewriting with your audience in mind, go back and re-do old stuff when you don't have anything new on your desk. It can get the juices pumping and it can teach you more about the craft. If you're concerned about rewriting for yourself, then do it as you need it and don't worry about it being "done". It's very important to note that there is nothing wrong with picking yourself over your readership when rewriting. Or vice versa.

On another note, everyone has stories that they look back at and find embarrassing or that need fixing. I use those stories of mine to teach myself how to write better. I rip them to shreds, pinpointing strengths and weaknesses in plot, character, setting, at sentence level, paragraph level, and scene level. I figure out why one transition worked and another didn't. I used to do it to other people's stories (Lit is pretty good for that, especially amongst the better quality stories) because they aren't professionally polished and weaknesses that are okay here (structural level--character, plot, setting--especially) are ones you'll usually not see in anthologies and the like.
 
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